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Tror du på sagan om att autopiloten användes? Bevis tack. Har Hani någonsin suttit i en 757? Bevis tack. Har han någonsin ens flugit något plan i närheten av den storleken och farterna? Bevis tack. Påstår du att 360 och andra manövern han gör är enkel? Bevis tack. Varför säger bla dom air traffic controllers som såg detta i realtid att dom trodde att det var ett militärt plan pga den absurda farten och manövern? Varför den ologiska kraschen?
Tror du på sagan om att autopiloten användes? Bevis tack. Har Hani någonsin suttit i en 757? Bevis tack. Har han någonsin ens flugit något plan i närheten av den storleken och farterna? Bevis tack. Påstår du att 360 och andra manövern han gör är enkel? Bevis tack. Varför säger bla dom air traffic controllers som såg detta i realtid att dom trodde att det var ett militärt plan pga den absurda farten och manövern? Varför den ologiska kraschen?
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The hijacker pilots - Mohammed Atta (American Airlines Flight 11), Marwan al Shehhi (United Airlines Flight 175), Hani Hanjour (American Airlines Flight 77), and Ziad Jarrah (United Airlines Flight 93) - may not have been highly skilled, but they were not complete amateurs. According to 9/11 Commission's report, Hanjour earned both his private pilot's license and commercial pilot's license in Arizona, training from 1997 through April 1999, apparently before his involvement began with Al Qaeda. He returned home to Saudi Arabia in late April, and subsequently traveled to Afghanistan, where he trained in Al Qaeda's Al Faruq camp. By December 2000, he was back in Arizona for refresher training on small commerical jets and Boeing 737 simulator training. Although he was repeatedly encouraged to quit because of his subpar English and poor performance, he finished simulator training in March 2001.
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In the months before September 11, at least two of the pilots - Hanjour and Jarrah - requested and subsequently took training flights down the Hudson Corridor, a budy, low-altidude path along the Hudson River that passes by the World Trade Center. Hanjour also took a training flight over Washington D.C. And all four pilots flew cross-country as first-class passengers on United Airlines in the early summer of 2001, which would given them insights into crew procedures and flight routes."
När det gäller huruvida kaparna tidigare hade hanterat stora passagerarplan:
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"While it's true that none of the hijacker pilots had ever flown a commerical-size airline jet and had logged far fewer than the 1,500 hours required for FAA airline pilot's licenses, they were, in fact, certified pilots. And the equipment they encountered in the Boeing cockpits on September 11 was similar to the simulators they had trained on the months before the attacks. So, it's not suprising that they operated the planes with some degree of competence."
Så här säger flyginstruktören Brian Marsh:
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"When they took over the plane, it was already in flight," says Brian Marsh, a flight instructor at Airline Transport Professionals Flight School, which has classes in 25 cities nationwide. "All they had to do was pretty much point and go. It's even easier than driving a car because there are no rods."
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As part of their basic flight training, the hijackers were schooled in the use of the flight management systems and autopilot features. The 9/11 Commission reports that Jarrah purchased a portable Global Positioning System (GPS) unit from a pilot shop in Miami - he tried to buy four, but the store had only one in stock. Atta reportedly purchased three more GPS units, and possibly visited the World Trade Center on September 10, 2001, for a final GPS reading. The pilots had only to punch the destination coordinates into the flight management screen, which all four had done countless times in training. According to Marsh, the navigation systems on airplanes are slightly more comples than the versions in production automobiles. "The navigation system tells you exactly where you are," Marsh says. "They just had to look at the screen."
När det gäller just Hanjour och Flight 77:
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Källa: Debunking 9/11 Myths, sida 4, 5, 6, 7 (Popular Mechanics)
The flight data recorder, or black box, of Flight 77 indicated that Hanjour input autopilot instructions to Reagan National Airport, less than five miles south of the Pentagon. He steered the plane manually for only the final eight minutes of the flight. To date, no other evidence has been made public about whether Hanjour's co-conspirators flew the planes manually or on autopilot."
While the hijackers ultimately reached three of their four targets, phone transcripts and air traffic controll records show that the conspirators' flying skills were indeed rudimentary - far from top-gun material. The planes made sharp turns of up to 330 degrees, in the case of Flight 77, and at times dropped precipiously. Conspiracy theorists describe Hanjour's drastic turn as evidence of great flying skill on the part of whomever - centainly not Hanjour, they contend - was not at the controls. They ignore that the turn actually occurred five miles southwest of the Pentagon, possibly because the subpar pilot realized he was vastly too high to hit his target.
While the hijackers ultimately reached three of their four targets, phone transcripts and air traffic controll records show that the conspirators' flying skills were indeed rudimentary - far from top-gun material. The planes made sharp turns of up to 330 degrees, in the case of Flight 77, and at times dropped precipiously. Conspiracy theorists describe Hanjour's drastic turn as evidence of great flying skill on the part of whomever - centainly not Hanjour, they contend - was not at the controls. They ignore that the turn actually occurred five miles southwest of the Pentagon, possibly because the subpar pilot realized he was vastly too high to hit his target.
Läs gärna citaten från piloterna Giulio Bernacchia och Ronald D. Bull också, som jag lade fram i ett tidigare inlägg, så får du en klarare bild. Vidare är citaten du väljer att lägga fram om Hanjour rätt missledande. Det beskrivs tydligt här ovanför att Hanjour inte alls var den urusla piloten som du försöker framställa honom som med dina välvalda citat, samt att man inte nödvändigtvis måste ha varit en stjärnpilot för att kunna krascha planen. Glömde du att citera hans egna flyginstruktör Marcel Bernard eller var det ett medvetet val av dig? Jag kan citera honom igen, om du eller någon annan missade det förra gången:
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Despite Hanjour's poor reviews, he did have some ability as a pilot, said Bernard of Freeway Airport. "There's no doubt in my mind that once that [hijacked jet] got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it," he said.
När det gäller personerna som trodde att det handlade om ett militärflygplan så har du kanske inte läst hela citatet, vad vet jag. Danielle O'Brien sa i alla fall så här:
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« The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane » says O'Brien. « You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe. »
Det handlade alltså om sättet terroristerna hanterade flygplanen, och det stämmer överens med citaten från Popular Mechanics. Det finns rapporteringar från flygplanen om att många passagerare spydde och mådde illa pga. den ojämna styrningen. Passagerarnas och flygplanets säkerhet var väl knappast prioriterat i dessa fall, eller hur?
En artikel angående flygplanen som kraschade in i tornen:
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The second plane was flying so fast that it was in danger of breaking up in the air as it approached the south tower, Boeing spokeswoman Liz Verdier told the Times.
"These guys exceeded even the emergency dive speed," Verdier said. "It's off the chart."
Two studies have analyzed the speed of the planes, one by the Federal Aviation Administration in consultation with the National Transportation Safety Board and the other by Eduardo Kausel, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Both found that United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the south tower at 9:02 a.m., was traveling significantly faster than American Airlines Flight 11, which hit the north tower at approximately 8:46 a.m.
The government's calculations put the speed of the first plane at 494 mph, and the second at 586 mph. The MIT analysis determined the first plane was traveling 429 mph, and the second 537 mph, The Times said.
"These guys exceeded even the emergency dive speed," Verdier said. "It's off the chart."
Two studies have analyzed the speed of the planes, one by the Federal Aviation Administration in consultation with the National Transportation Safety Board and the other by Eduardo Kausel, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Both found that United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the south tower at 9:02 a.m., was traveling significantly faster than American Airlines Flight 11, which hit the north tower at approximately 8:46 a.m.
The government's calculations put the speed of the first plane at 494 mph, and the second at 586 mph. The MIT analysis determined the first plane was traveling 429 mph, and the second 537 mph, The Times said.
Varför gör Roemer och Hamilton ALLT för att inte ställa relevanta frågor?