Ur ett politiskt och LM perspektiv förstår jag att man fortfarande inte lägger ned projektet men ur försvarssynpunkt....KATASTROF att det största västlandet skjuter sig så i foten
Och, OT det gåller även US Navy map deras tänkta nya skepp!
Det är inte mycket som blir rätt förtillfället "over-there"
Somsvensk tycker jag att det är otroligt hur dessa lobbyister lyckats dra in deg till industrin när landet och i längden världen står på spel och sedan målar man upp Putin som fiende, inte Kineserna
Ryssland rustar inte upp, dom ersätter gammalt skrot, Kina rustar upp!
Och, OT det gåller även US Navy map deras tänkta nya skepp!
Det är inte mycket som blir rätt förtillfället "over-there"
Somsvensk tycker jag att det är otroligt hur dessa lobbyister lyckats dra in deg till industrin när landet och i längden världen står på spel och sedan målar man upp Putin som fiende, inte Kineserna
Ryssland rustar inte upp, dom ersätter gammalt skrot, Kina rustar upp!
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Senast redigerad av Megaforce 2014-12-16 kl. 12:37.
Senast redigerad av Megaforce 2014-12-16 kl. 12:37.
Ojvoj som Per Bjurman brukar skriva. 
Nu börjar vi se vad kalaset kommer att kosta...och då vet vi inte vad det för smällkarameller(kostnader) som göms i B/C versionen, särskilt C versionen. Usch, det här kommer att bli dyyyyyyyyyrt.
"F-35 choice gives Dutch a shocking high cost per flight hour
F-35 cost-per-flying-hour as some of us have predicted will be outrageous. More people seem to be discovering this.
The Dutch have released a variety of documents in regard to their F-16 replacement. The one at the top of the page named: "D-brief_Vervanging_F-16.docx" leaves some interesting information on page 17 (Google Translation):
current estimate lifetime F-35
The expected lifetime costs consist of the initial investment (€ 3,868.1 million) plus the annual operating costs (€ 277.7 million) during the lifetime. The total lifetime cost for 30 years is therefore € 12,199.1 million (price level 2014). This amount excludes risk reservations totaling € 907.6 million. Annex 6 are already paid and still estimated investment and operating costs of the F-35 are presented for the next fifteen years.
So using some very rough math converting Euros to U.S. Dollars I get the following.
Average annual cost to run 37 F-35s: $344.46M per year.
Divide that by 37 aircraft and you get $9.3M to run each F-35 per year. So what is the cost per flying hour? Depends on how many hours you fly each airframe per year.
Flight hours per airframe per year / cost per flying hour
200 / $46,500
180 / $51,666
160 / $58,125
Now you know why the Dutch are getting 37 aircraft and not 85. The F-35 unit cost is way over-priced; and so is the cost to operate it. When the Dutch signed on to this program years ago, they were told the F-35 was affordable. This has no basis in fact.
What is worse? The aircraft is likely to get shot down if it has to face emerging and some existing ground-to-air and air-to-air threats.
The Dutch will be fielding an F-16 replacement that is no replacement but a significant downgrade.
This is a complete waste of taxpayer funds."
Nu börjar vi se vad kalaset kommer att kosta...och då vet vi inte vad det för smällkarameller(kostnader) som göms i B/C versionen, särskilt C versionen. Usch, det här kommer att bli dyyyyyyyyyrt.
"F-35 choice gives Dutch a shocking high cost per flight hour
F-35 cost-per-flying-hour as some of us have predicted will be outrageous. More people seem to be discovering this.
The Dutch have released a variety of documents in regard to their F-16 replacement. The one at the top of the page named: "D-brief_Vervanging_F-16.docx" leaves some interesting information on page 17 (Google Translation):
current estimate lifetime F-35
The expected lifetime costs consist of the initial investment (€ 3,868.1 million) plus the annual operating costs (€ 277.7 million) during the lifetime. The total lifetime cost for 30 years is therefore € 12,199.1 million (price level 2014). This amount excludes risk reservations totaling € 907.6 million. Annex 6 are already paid and still estimated investment and operating costs of the F-35 are presented for the next fifteen years.
So using some very rough math converting Euros to U.S. Dollars I get the following.
Average annual cost to run 37 F-35s: $344.46M per year.
Divide that by 37 aircraft and you get $9.3M to run each F-35 per year. So what is the cost per flying hour? Depends on how many hours you fly each airframe per year.
Flight hours per airframe per year / cost per flying hour
200 / $46,500
180 / $51,666
160 / $58,125
Now you know why the Dutch are getting 37 aircraft and not 85. The F-35 unit cost is way over-priced; and so is the cost to operate it. When the Dutch signed on to this program years ago, they were told the F-35 was affordable. This has no basis in fact.
What is worse? The aircraft is likely to get shot down if it has to face emerging and some existing ground-to-air and air-to-air threats.
The Dutch will be fielding an F-16 replacement that is no replacement but a significant downgrade.
This is a complete waste of taxpayer funds."
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Ojvoj som Per Bjurman brukar skriva.
Nu börjar vi se vad kalaset kommer att kosta...och då vet vi inte vad det för smällkarameller(kostnader) som göms i B/C versionen, särskilt C versionen. Usch, det här kommer att bli dyyyyyyyyyrt.
"F-35 choice gives Dutch a shocking high cost per flight hour
F-35 cost-per-flying-hour as some of us have predicted will be outrageous. More people seem to be discovering this.
The Dutch have released a variety of documents in regard to their F-16 replacement. The one at the top of the page named: "D-brief_Vervanging_F-16.docx" leaves some interesting information on page 17 (Google Translation):
current estimate lifetime F-35
The expected lifetime costs consist of the initial investment (€ 3,868.1 million) plus the annual operating costs (€ 277.7 million) during the lifetime. The total lifetime cost for 30 years is therefore € 12,199.1 million (price level 2014). This amount excludes risk reservations totaling € 907.6 million. Annex 6 are already paid and still estimated investment and operating costs of the F-35 are presented for the next fifteen years.
So using some very rough math converting Euros to U.S. Dollars I get the following.
Average annual cost to run 37 F-35s: $344.46M per year.
Divide that by 37 aircraft and you get $9.3M to run each F-35 per year. So what is the cost per flying hour? Depends on how many hours you fly each airframe per year.
Flight hours per airframe per year / cost per flying hour
200 / $46,500
180 / $51,666
160 / $58,125
Now you know why the Dutch are getting 37 aircraft and not 85. The F-35 unit cost is way over-priced; and so is the cost to operate it. When the Dutch signed on to this program years ago, they were told the F-35 was affordable. This has no basis in fact.
What is worse? The aircraft is likely to get shot down if it has to face emerging and some existing ground-to-air and air-to-air threats.
The Dutch will be fielding an F-16 replacement that is no replacement but a significant downgrade.
This is a complete waste of taxpayer funds."
Nu börjar vi se vad kalaset kommer att kosta...och då vet vi inte vad det för smällkarameller(kostnader) som göms i B/C versionen, särskilt C versionen. Usch, det här kommer att bli dyyyyyyyyyrt.
"F-35 choice gives Dutch a shocking high cost per flight hour
F-35 cost-per-flying-hour as some of us have predicted will be outrageous. More people seem to be discovering this.
The Dutch have released a variety of documents in regard to their F-16 replacement. The one at the top of the page named: "D-brief_Vervanging_F-16.docx" leaves some interesting information on page 17 (Google Translation):
current estimate lifetime F-35
The expected lifetime costs consist of the initial investment (€ 3,868.1 million) plus the annual operating costs (€ 277.7 million) during the lifetime. The total lifetime cost for 30 years is therefore € 12,199.1 million (price level 2014). This amount excludes risk reservations totaling € 907.6 million. Annex 6 are already paid and still estimated investment and operating costs of the F-35 are presented for the next fifteen years.
So using some very rough math converting Euros to U.S. Dollars I get the following.
Average annual cost to run 37 F-35s: $344.46M per year.
Divide that by 37 aircraft and you get $9.3M to run each F-35 per year. So what is the cost per flying hour? Depends on how many hours you fly each airframe per year.
Flight hours per airframe per year / cost per flying hour
200 / $46,500
180 / $51,666
160 / $58,125
Now you know why the Dutch are getting 37 aircraft and not 85. The F-35 unit cost is way over-priced; and so is the cost to operate it. When the Dutch signed on to this program years ago, they were told the F-35 was affordable. This has no basis in fact.
What is worse? The aircraft is likely to get shot down if it has to face emerging and some existing ground-to-air and air-to-air threats.
The Dutch will be fielding an F-16 replacement that is no replacement but a significant downgrade.
This is a complete waste of taxpayer funds."
Sen kan man ju fråga sig vem som vinner en strid, tre st F-35 eller en division Gripen E.
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