JAS-39 Gripen

Fransmännen och Britterna har väl inte direkt vart överens om något sedan WWII

Sepecat Jaguar byggde man iofs ihop.

Det är ju sant, tänkte inte på det..

"Campaign update: Brazil

Defesanet reports that ACM Juniti Saito expects a F-X2 decision in October possibly the 23rd on the annual day of aviation. DefMiN Jobim Nelson has now also confirmed that there won't be any Rafale-deal signed on September 7 as some people had previously speculated on since some other deals will be inked that day.

On the 5th of October Brazil and Sweden will hold bilateral talks in Sweden.

SAAB's CEO talked to journos about the Gripen offer and how they see Brazil as becoming a development partner and exporter of Gripen. He also mentioned efforts to sell in a the Embraer-Saab EriEye system to Oman, Malaysia and South Africa.

Sweden's State Secretary to the PM, HG Wessberg made a quick visit last week."

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" Brazilian companies may become suppliers of NG Gripen fighter, manufactured by the Swedish Saab and one of the finalists in the program who choose the new game multiemprego of the Brazilian Air Force (FAB), said Thursday that the company's executives, who came to the Country for meetings with Brazilian authorities.

Segundo eles, o Gripen NG é um caça em desenvolvimento e ainda não foram escolhidos todos os fornecedores, o que abriria espaço para que empresas brasileiras forneçam componentes e para a criação de parcerias locais para produção e exportação da aeronave. According to them, the Gripen NG is a game in development and not all suppliers were chosen, and that open space for Brazilian companies that supply components and the creation of partnerships for local production and export of aircraft.

"Teremos que escolher fornecedores (para o Gripen NG) de todo modo, e as empresas brasileiras podem tornar-se fornecedoras", disse Bob Kemp, vice-presidente de vendas internacionais da Saab. "We have to choose suppliers (for the Gripen NG) in any event, and Brazilian companies can become providers," said Bob Kemp, vice president of international sales of Saab.

"E poderemos ter fornecedores brasileiros em nosso sistema... voando no Brasil, na Suécia e em outros lugares em que vencermos concorrências também." "And we have Brazilian suppliers in our system ... flying in Brazil, Sweden and elsewhere in that win competitions too."

O Gripen NG é um dos finalistas do Programa F-X2, da FAB, que prevê a compra de 36 caças para substituir a frota atual. The Gripen NG is one of the finalists of the F-X2 program, the FAB, which provides for the purchase of 36 fighters to replace the current fleet. O F-18 Super Hornet, da americana Boeing, eo Rafale, da francesa Dassault, também estão na disputa. The F-18 Super Hornet, the American Boeing and the Rafale, the French Dassault are also in dispute. A FAB informou que seu cronograma prevê o anúncio de um vencedor até outubro. The FAB said that his schedule provides for the announcement of a winner by October.

Sem revelar valores sobre a oferta sueca, o presidente-executivo da Saab, Ake Svensson, garantiu que a proposta feita pela companhia ao governo brasileiro prevê um "pacote de financiamento do governo sueco". Without revealing figures on the Swedish offer, the chairman and executive officer of Saab, Ake Svensson, said that the proposal made by the company to the Brazilian government provides a package of funding for the Swedish government. "

"Não podemos entrar nos detalhes financeiros, porque isso é parte da competição, mas existem linhas de crédito para exportação que a Suécia pode oferecer. O governo sueco tem dado muito apoio na elaboração de um pacote completo de financiamento para esse programa", disse. "We can not get into financial details, because that is part of the competition, but there are lines of credit for export that Sweden can offer. The Swedish government has given much support in the preparation of a complete package of funding for this program," he said.

Os executivos suecos procuraram também afastar temores com relação à transferência de tecnologia, um dos pilares fundamentais estabelecidos pelo governo brasileiro na aquisição de novos equipamentos militares. The Swedish executive also sought to allay fears regarding the transfer of technology, one of the fundamental pillars established by the Brazilian government in the acquisition of new military equipment.

A Saab já escolheu a fabricante americana General Electric como fornecedora do motor do Gripen NG, o que, para críticos da proposta sueca, pode complicar a transferência de tecnologia, pois o governo dos Estados Unidos teria ingerência na eventual negociação de componentes feitos no país. Saab has chosen the U.S. manufacturer General Electric as a supplier of engine Gripen NG, which, to critics of the Swedish proposal, may complicate the transfer of technology, because the U.S. government would interfere in any negotiation of components made in the country.

"Não acho que o motor seja o componente mais crítico na concessão de uma licença de exportação", disse Svensson. "I do not think the engine is the most critical component in the granting of an export license," said Svensson. "Não prevemos problemas com essa questão", acrescentou. "We do not anticipate problems with this issue," he added. "A tecnologia-chave... as coisas que realmente importam, nós controlamos", complementou Kemp. "The key technology ... the things that really matter, we control," adding Kemp. "

Så HG Wessberg, regeringens och det inre kabinettets grå eminens, har varit där nere. Där ser man.

I Operation Garbo dör HG Wessberg för övrigt hjältedöden som chef för ett bandvagnskompani som överfaller sovjetiskt tranportflyg på Arlanda.

Enligt denna artikel lutar det nu åt fransmännens Rafale för Brasiliens del.

Artikeln är från en fransk källa (AFP), jag kan inte bedöma trovärdigheten i den. Bland annat så talas det i artikeln om att att fransmännen lovat Brasilien tillgång till teknologi och att det skulle ge Rafale en fördel gentemot Gripen och F-18, men såvitt jag vet har även Saab gett ganska långtgående löften om tillgång till teknologi och partnerskap.


Men stämmer artikeln så ser det ju definitivt inte så bra ut för Gripens del. Eller går den att tolka annorlunda för nån som är mer insatt?

Det som finns att läsa ang detta , så är det President Lula egna ord om vad han tycker är det bästa valet.

Han anser att Frankrike har det bästa TOT erbjudandet i denna affär.

Vad som tidigare läckt ut är att FAB har konstaterat att alla kärrorna lever upp till ställda krav.

Så hela affären hänger nog på vad "bästa utöver erbjudandet" är.

http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.1698120/brasilien-vill-inte-kopa-gripen

Lika bra att dom vänjer sig, de kommer även förlora i Indien affären.

Finns där något matigt som stödjer det uttalandet?

Inte annat än hat mot allt svenskt
Seriöst så är det så att när någon orkar diskutera och krokodil målar in sig i ett hörn så slutar han bara posta i den tråden.

Indien lär inte beställa några F-16 IN heller.