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Who could be arrogant enough to ignore the consensus of 2,000 climate scientists and all the world's scientific institutions
A true scientific person can be that "(I wouldn't put it that way although) "arrogant". Scientific truth has nothing whatsoever (!) to do with consensus.
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there is a small group of people happy to distort the truth to promote themselves and build their careers.
Gavin Schmidt? James Hansen? Michael Mann? All responsible for models which they are not experts in. The world leading sceanograph Carl Wunsch sais the 50 % degrease of the MOC current is absolutely, totally impossible, and even a small change is impossible. But climatologist Schmidt predict the 50 % from his own model and says that Carl Wunsch is wrong on the oceans and the driving force of currents. Schmidt is a less than a Schmoe, he's an IPCC idiot, but the climate change research are every year funded with several billions of dollars.
The exxonsecrets site is propaganda and false, but that unpleasant propaganda I guess is a sign that global warmongering is already doomed.
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Some are directly funded by the fossil fuel industries. Some are self promoting egotists seeking attention. Some just want to be controversial and fill a newspaper column. Their arguments also differ. A declining number claim that there is no climate change at all. Some accept climate change but say that it will be beneficial. Most say that there may be some small change, but that it has been exagerated for political reasons. The claim that the causes are still unknown and that it is probably a natural cycle.
All of the deniers- we refuse to grace them with their chosen name, "skeptics"- are dangerous for they create a false debate around the existence of climate change and divert attention from the real debate: "What are we going to do about climate change?". On this page Rising Tide keeps a regularly undated record of these deniers. We believe they must be made accountable for the damage they cause. This page is work in progress. We welcome more information or clarifications. More information on the international climate deniers can be found on the site
Why can't you call us sceptics? Because our sceptisism stands on solid ground and that is too problematic for you. Obviously, since you making lists of us to fight us with other means than science and arguments, and that you aim to silence us.
Alll what you write here is unpleasant ad honomen, and an embryo of free speech opression, from start to goal! We "deniers" always have argument, good positive arguments regarding facts. Is the temperature errors from James Hansen too emarresing or what? Most likely there will be a temperature decrease the coming centuries.
Now. Here's a very good and interresting document about temperature and correlation through hundreds of years, and predictions for the years to come:
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/Conf2007/Archibald2007.pdf
Also visit
http://climateaudit.org which is very interesting right now.
Sorry AGW-mongerers (I'm not deny AGW, but it's quite small) and have a nice death.