Apropå att den där metallbiten skulle ha kommit från ett American Airlines plan, så söndersmulas den teorin i bitar, när den synas lite närmare av följande 6 personer:
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From Peter Jones p.jones@dataspecialist.co.uk
11-3-2
I looked at the picture of Boeing wreckage at the Pentagon. Convenient that this turns up now.
If it's genuine wreckage then why is there apparently no charring on it, given that the plane was destroyed in a fireball?
Why are there no other pieces of wreckage in the immediate area? Given the presence of that piece and the magnitude of damage there should be debris everywhere.
There isn't even any real evidence of damage to the paint work (scuffing, dirt etc) that you expect.
Regards, Peter Jones.
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From Bill Moore
editor@evworld.com
Jeff....I have studied this particular piece of wreckage before, though he photo on your sites bigger than the one I saw a number of months ago.
I don't believe it came off a AA 757. American Airlines is the only US carrier to NOT paint its aircraft, preferring to save the considerable weight of paint by keeping its aircraft's aluminum skins polished. This piece of wreckage clearly appears to be painted a light, powder blue. I have looked at current American 757s and cannot find anywhere on the aircraft where this particular piece of metal might have come off.
I concur with Mr. Lackman, I doubt this piece of wreckage came from an American Airlines jetliner.
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From Craig
demott@online.ru
11-4-2
Dear Jeff,
In regards to the so-called plane part found on the lawn of the Pentagon, I had seen this photo somewhere else, but it was different than what you have-which makes it interesting. (Attached is the photo I found on another web page). Looking at the two photos, you will see that the large piece is basically the same-the difference being is the background. In the photo that I sent, you'll see that it view is in the same direction, but that the major part is much further from the building. Also, that the ground is very clean and free of debris (with the exception of one smaller piece to the right of the large one. In the picture that you provided, there is a lot of litter in the immediate background, along with a tree branch and what looks like a parking lamppost. I know sure as hell that someone did not pick up the piece and move it, just so anohter picture can be taken. Also, why is there only one picture--the whole ground should be littered with large and small pieces?!
The only conclusion that one can come to is, that this is simply a Photoshop picture. Now someone might argue and say that I'm wrong, and I could be. It could be a Coral Draw program that the picture was made with! (Real picture in the background, but the pieces added later. Give the Feds a chance, and more Photoshop pictures will be on the way, including suitcases and parts of people!)
I'm kind of glad that the Feds came out with these pictures (using a front organization of course). Why? Because they are digging a deeper hole for their lies, where even the less intelligent of the country can see what is going on. The major thing is, is all the US government has been doing as a result of this 9-11 Attack. In short, this whole "war on terrorism" is a well laid out lie, similar to George Orwell's book, "1984".
Respectfully submitted,
Craig
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From Pam
Vegandoll@aol.com
11-4-2
Jeff,
It takes about 60 seconds to search google.com & find a few photos verifying the American Airline logo, which is nothing like the one in your photo. Go to:
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?emailsearch=airliners.net@0-24.
net&airlinesearch=American+Airlines
http://members.tripod.com/mwaviation/new_page_4.htm
http://members.tripod.com/Craigs_Airlines/boeing767.htm
Shows other company logos on Boeings, none of which match the wreckage photo.
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From Ted
tstrieby@sc.rr.com
11-5-2
This is just an observation, but I have 35 years in aviation, and I feel this is not wreckage.
Note the lines of holes. These are rivet holes. Rivets support underlying structure. There is no underlying structure.
Rivets have "heads". When rivets "pull" or are torn out, the area around the rivets, is also damaged. There is no damege here.
This is very thin (0.020 or less) aluminum. The damage from the torn rivets would be VERY obvious. These rivet holes have every characteristic, of having been "drilled".
The paint isn't scratched. There seems to be paint UNDER where the rivet heads would have been. Very strange.
This piece may be 30' long (blade of grass = 1")
Note the lack of color or definition, in the other debris.
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From Angela Jenkins
an_august_moon@yahoo.com
11-5-2
Hi Jeff,
I am very doubtful that this picture was the 'actual wreckage' at the Pentagon. Notice all the men just wandering around like they are inspecting the area, and having a friendly chat AS IF the building they are standing a few feet away from isnt really on fire?? I would think they would want to put the fire out before they have their morning meeting under the burning building.
The three guys casually standing in the right side of the photo beside the burning car should probably be getting soaked from the fire hose shooting the water directly over their head, yet they dont look wet?? And they are in no hurry to get out from under the water hose.
On the left side of the photo, you find a guy standing with his hands on his hips?? I sure hope he's not one of the first responders!! This doesn't happen when there is an actual fire! It looks staged to me.
Besides the LARGE piece of scrap metal, I see what appears to be a bunch of tree limbs, and white "specks". The large piece of metal could have come from anything, but I doubt it came from an AA Airliner (color scheme is off). NONE of the wreckage looks charred, its all white. That sure was an amazing crash, it didn't char the lawn at the Pentagon, and didn't char anything else that is scattered around the yard.
Another interesting thing to note, I do not see a single fireman on the scene. With all the extra men just standing around, maybe they should have grabbed a waterhose or started cleaning up that mess on the lawn!! I'm not buying it!
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From Peter Jones p.jones@dataspecialist.co.uk
11-3-2
I looked at the picture of Boeing wreckage at the Pentagon. Convenient that this turns up now.
If it's genuine wreckage then why is there apparently no charring on it, given that the plane was destroyed in a fireball?
Why are there no other pieces of wreckage in the immediate area? Given the presence of that piece and the magnitude of damage there should be debris everywhere.
There isn't even any real evidence of damage to the paint work (scuffing, dirt etc) that you expect.
Regards, Peter Jones.
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From Bill Moore
editor@evworld.com
Jeff....I have studied this particular piece of wreckage before, though he photo on your sites bigger than the one I saw a number of months ago.
I don't believe it came off a AA 757. American Airlines is the only US carrier to NOT paint its aircraft, preferring to save the considerable weight of paint by keeping its aircraft's aluminum skins polished. This piece of wreckage clearly appears to be painted a light, powder blue. I have looked at current American 757s and cannot find anywhere on the aircraft where this particular piece of metal might have come off.
I concur with Mr. Lackman, I doubt this piece of wreckage came from an American Airlines jetliner.
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From Craig
demott@online.ru
11-4-2
Dear Jeff,
In regards to the so-called plane part found on the lawn of the Pentagon, I had seen this photo somewhere else, but it was different than what you have-which makes it interesting. (Attached is the photo I found on another web page). Looking at the two photos, you will see that the large piece is basically the same-the difference being is the background. In the photo that I sent, you'll see that it view is in the same direction, but that the major part is much further from the building. Also, that the ground is very clean and free of debris (with the exception of one smaller piece to the right of the large one. In the picture that you provided, there is a lot of litter in the immediate background, along with a tree branch and what looks like a parking lamppost. I know sure as hell that someone did not pick up the piece and move it, just so anohter picture can be taken. Also, why is there only one picture--the whole ground should be littered with large and small pieces?!
The only conclusion that one can come to is, that this is simply a Photoshop picture. Now someone might argue and say that I'm wrong, and I could be. It could be a Coral Draw program that the picture was made with! (Real picture in the background, but the pieces added later. Give the Feds a chance, and more Photoshop pictures will be on the way, including suitcases and parts of people!)
I'm kind of glad that the Feds came out with these pictures (using a front organization of course). Why? Because they are digging a deeper hole for their lies, where even the less intelligent of the country can see what is going on. The major thing is, is all the US government has been doing as a result of this 9-11 Attack. In short, this whole "war on terrorism" is a well laid out lie, similar to George Orwell's book, "1984".
Respectfully submitted,
Craig
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From Pam
Vegandoll@aol.com
11-4-2
Jeff,
It takes about 60 seconds to search google.com & find a few photos verifying the American Airline logo, which is nothing like the one in your photo. Go to:
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?emailsearch=airliners.net@0-24.
net&airlinesearch=American+Airlines
http://members.tripod.com/mwaviation/new_page_4.htm
http://members.tripod.com/Craigs_Airlines/boeing767.htm
Shows other company logos on Boeings, none of which match the wreckage photo.
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From Ted
tstrieby@sc.rr.com
11-5-2
This is just an observation, but I have 35 years in aviation, and I feel this is not wreckage.
Note the lines of holes. These are rivet holes. Rivets support underlying structure. There is no underlying structure.
Rivets have "heads". When rivets "pull" or are torn out, the area around the rivets, is also damaged. There is no damege here.
This is very thin (0.020 or less) aluminum. The damage from the torn rivets would be VERY obvious. These rivet holes have every characteristic, of having been "drilled".
The paint isn't scratched. There seems to be paint UNDER where the rivet heads would have been. Very strange.
This piece may be 30' long (blade of grass = 1")
Note the lack of color or definition, in the other debris.
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From Angela Jenkins
an_august_moon@yahoo.com
11-5-2
Hi Jeff,
I am very doubtful that this picture was the 'actual wreckage' at the Pentagon. Notice all the men just wandering around like they are inspecting the area, and having a friendly chat AS IF the building they are standing a few feet away from isnt really on fire?? I would think they would want to put the fire out before they have their morning meeting under the burning building.
The three guys casually standing in the right side of the photo beside the burning car should probably be getting soaked from the fire hose shooting the water directly over their head, yet they dont look wet?? And they are in no hurry to get out from under the water hose.
On the left side of the photo, you find a guy standing with his hands on his hips?? I sure hope he's not one of the first responders!! This doesn't happen when there is an actual fire! It looks staged to me.
Besides the LARGE piece of scrap metal, I see what appears to be a bunch of tree limbs, and white "specks". The large piece of metal could have come from anything, but I doubt it came from an AA Airliner (color scheme is off). NONE of the wreckage looks charred, its all white. That sure was an amazing crash, it didn't char the lawn at the Pentagon, and didn't char anything else that is scattered around the yard.
Another interesting thing to note, I do not see a single fireman on the scene. With all the extra men just standing around, maybe they should have grabbed a waterhose or started cleaning up that mess on the lawn!! I'm not buying it!
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