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2019-03-11, 20:30
  #625
Medlem
Wade Robson said about Michael Jackson : ‘’ Michael Jackson changed the world and more personally my life forever. He is the reason i dance , the reason i make music and one of the main reasons i believe in the pure goodness of human kind’’.
Wade Robson said : ‘’Michael Jackson was a close friend of mine for 20 years. His music, his movement, his personal words of inspiration and encouragementand his unconditional love will live inside of me forever’’.
Wade Robson said about Michael Jackson: ‘’ i will miss him immeasurably, but i know that he is now at peace and enchanting the heavens with a melody and a moonwalk. I love you Michael’’.
Wade Robson said about Michael Jackson: ‘’The last time i saw him was July 2008. I was in Las Vegas working on a show and he was living there’’. Me, my wife and him and his three kids had a barbecue. It was the most normal thing in the world. Michael sat there under an umbrella …We had caring times because he was such a caring person.’’
Wade Robson claims Michael Jackson molested him from 1989–1996. Michael Jackson was investigated in the Chandler case in August 1993 when Wade was 10 years old. The statute of limitations extended 5 years to 1998 in Michael’s 1993 case which means Michael Jackson was still under investigation for any accuser to come forward. So Wade Robson claims that Michael Jackson was molesting him while under criminal investigation from the 1993 case?
Wade Robson was questioned at the same time he claims he was being molested after the 1993 case
Wade Robson withstood tough cross examination in a 2005 criminal trial that could have triggered ANY repressed memory
WADE ROBSON was THE FIRST WITNESS FOR THE DEFENSE in Michael’s 2005 trial. Robson was also a back-up dancer in an MTV Musical Tribute to MJ, led by Janet Jackson, after MJ died. He also added to a book that was written about MJ after his death. After MJ passed away, Robson did a zillion interviews defending MJ. Robson’s story changed when he realized that he was not going to get his dream job in that Cirque du Soleil MJ Tribute Show
Wade Robson swore UNDER OATH nothing happened
Wade wrote/spoke glowingly of Michael Jackson from 2005–2011 and even did tributes
Wade and his wife had Michael Jackson and his kids at his 2008 barbecue
Wade Robson perjured himself for 4 years prison term when he put his hand on the Bible Under Oath as a sexually active adult and said Michael Jackson didn’t touch him?
Wade Robson is cunning but not smart enough to have fooled Scott Ross the private investigator who aggressively cross examined potential witnesses to determine whether they were reliable or not to testify in 2005. He was 100% truthful in 2005 and he lied in 2013 and he is lying now for money. Also, no guilty person would ever risk calling his own abuse victim to the stand , especially when Robson’s testimony was NOT even necessary for Michael Jackson to win the 2005 trial.
Wade Robson is broke. He is officially bankrupt. So is Safechuck.
Wade was not selected for Michael Jackson’s Cirque du Soleil ‘’One’’ show in Vegas
Cirque Du Soleil and the Estate of Michael Jackson chose Jamie King over Wade Robson to direct the MJ ONE show
Wade Robson would sue Michael Jackson Estate AFTER he was NOT selected to choreograph Michael Jackson’s show !!!
In December 2017 Robson’s lawsuit against Michael Jackson’s Estate was dismissed. Safechuck’s lawsuit was also dismissed within 4 months and his original lawyers Marzano and Glandstein dropped him when they saw there zero chance winning the case. Safechuck alleged molestation AFTER he saw Wade Robson sue for money in 2013. However, he refused to testify for the Prosecution in 2005. A 28 year old man who was molested would not just watch a molester on trial. He would be eager to testify against Michael Jackson just like the Sandusky victims did. None of Sandusky’s victims defended him and no one refused to testify against him. Robson and Safechuck did the exact opposite of what the Sandusky victims did.
Brett Barnes called Wade Robson and James Safechuck greedy liars on twitter. He specifically wrote :’’ i wish people would understand that on your last moment on this earth all the money of the world will be of no comfort but my clear conscience will’’.
There's no way a pedophile would be investigated for 10 years and have their house raided just for nothing to be found.
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2019-03-11, 20:30
  #626
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Beror ju på sammanhanget, i MJ:s fall ytterst suspekt. Har hela tiden fram till denna dokumentär anat att han var pedofil, men inte dömt ut honom helt. Men efter denna dokumentär så är det solklart när de förklarar hur all grooming gick till. Inte bara de två som anklagar utan även hela deras familjer. Allt stämmer.

Men utan den här filmen och allt det som Michael Jackson påstås ha gjort, alltså utan allt sådant som vi INTE säkert vet att han har gjort. Vad var det då för suspekt med hans beteende jämfört med andra vuxnas beteende, tex föräldrar som leker och har jätteroligt och har jättemysigt i sängen med sina barn?
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2019-03-11, 20:31
  #627
Medlem
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Jag varken hatar eller älskar MJ. Jag är så objektiv som man kan komma innan jag såg dokumentären. Nu när jag har sett så är jag övertygad om att MJ har begått dessa brott. Ingen rök utan eld.

Precis min poäng: Du lägger all din tilltro till dokumentären. Tänk om du hade läst alla miljoner sidor på internet som redogör för MJ's försvar INNAN du sett dokumentären. Då hade du kanske haft en helt annan syn och ett helt annat kritiskt tänkande.

Själva poängen med dokumentären är ju att MJ är monstret och Du ska tycka att han är monstret. Och du svalde betet med hull och hår. Grattis.

Själv har jag sett så många såna här dokumentärer, jag vet vad de går för.

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MJ var aldrig OND mot barnen. Men det han gjorde var FRUKTANSVÄRT fel. Han trodde det han gjorde mot barnen var harmlöst. Det är skillnad. Har du tänkt på det?

Men som du säger.. Det finns ingen bevis och det har du rätt i det. Jag kan inte säga med 100% säkerhet att han gjorde det. Men du kan inte heller säga att han aldrig gjorde det till 100 %.

Absolut, det kan mycket väl uppfattas så. Att MJ var naiv och att han aldrig ville såra ett barn. Jag tror på det. Och när han säger att han sov med dem så la han till "You're thinking SEX! But I sleep on the floor!". Och det är den naiviteten som är så talande när det kommer till MJ. Jag vet att MJ sov med barn (opassande enligt vuxna moralkärringar), men deras föräldrar sov också i rummen, men inte att de hade sex. MJ's sovrum var gigantiskt.

MJ hade helt enkelt pyjamasparty och julafton och allt det där senare i sitt liv när han äntligen fick och kunde ha det, utan att någon moralpredikare kunde peka finger åt honom och säga att han inte fick. MJ älskade barn, men gillade inte vuxna, eftersom han tyckte vuxna var manipulativa och krävde saker av honom hela tiden. Han kunde lita på barn, men inte på vuxna.
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2019-03-11, 20:32
  #628
Medlem
Robson submitted in court two contradictory versions.
Does anyone believe MJ was so dumb he put a victim on the stand so the prosecutors could grill him? For a real victim that would be extremely triggering , why would MJ take that risk when Rosbon's testimony was not even necessary to defeat the Arvizos?
What makes this story even more ridiculous is that in a deposition his mother said when she asked him why he didn't say anything he told her he felt shame. He has also echoed feeling shame in blog posts. Yet his court documents contradict this. Can you really believe a man who has two stories depending on his audience? In court he knew feeling shame wouldn't net him millions, so he had to claim he wasn't aware it was abuse. He can't get around the statute of limitations by claiming he felt shame.
Assuming Wade Robson was indeed unable to understand the concept of molestation in 2005 even though he was already 23. Why didn’t he say ‘’ Michael Jackson performed oral sex on me, masturbated me , licked my penis’’, ‘’ he did all that but that’s ok that’s not abuse ‘’ yet he said Michael Jackson never touched him ?
Corey Feldman, Emmanuel Lewis, Macaulay Culkin, Omer Batthi, Alfonso Riberio, Taj Jackson, Taryll Jackson, Sean Lennon, Mark Ronson are all twisted and sick too for consistently speaking highly of MJ and defending his innocence? Some of those boys were abused by other adults they knew the difference between him and MJ.
Take a look at Wade’s actions since he accused MJ like selling his picture on ebay, directing videos to an MJ fans, promoting himself with a video that included MJ moves, liking a post by Brian Friendman where he spoke postively about MJ, teaching his son dance with MJ's philosophy all the while claiming that he is so traumatized the he cannot dance anymore.
And keep in mind his mother and brother testified that Robson has financial problems so do the math. He has tried to profit from these BS allegations over and over again. This documentary is the latest effort time for the 10th anniversary of MJ's death.
Neither of them , Robson and Safechuck, acts like real abuse victims. I don't know any victim who repeatedly tried to profit from the claim that they were molested. They are both angry because their lawsuits were dismissed and they are trying to force the Estate to settle their cases.
Robson alleged he could not do entertainment activities anymore but this obviously is a lie. It is a well documented fact that he took part in many entertainment activities from his own social accounts.
Robson said the abuse started the second time they were in Neverland during the weekend before his family left. Then he said he was abused every single night. Robson claimed that Jackson abused him in his condo and he was alone there while his mother and his sister stayed at a hotel. His mother in her deposition said that she and her daughter also stayed in that condo. So which one is it? Was Robson alone with Jackson or did his mother and his sister stay in tha condo too? These are two contradictory stories. So Michael Jackson molested Robson without even grooming him first and under his mother’s nose?
If all these people that Robson alleges were more than willing to help Michael Jackson find abuse victims then how come the FBI or Sneddon who traveled all over the world to find alleged victims never found any evidence of this? How come no abuse victims other than Robson and Safechuck have come forward all these years, who BOTH DENIED molestation FOR YEARS? How come both Robson and Safechuck happened to have had nervous breakdowns during the exact same time? How come he said he never had any repressed memories yet it was his nervous breakdown he alleged helped him remember the child abuse he never forgot he experienced?
If as Robson said he didn’t understand what abuse is then why does he now claim that he lied to protect Michael Jackson? Why would he need to lie so as to protect Michael Jackson if he didn’t understand what he did was wrong? Why would Robson need to lie about the abuse, he always remembered, but he didn’t see it as such and thought it was consensual love?
Robson and Safechuck claim that MJ molested Mac Culkin who repeatedly denied it and testified it under oath. Culkin still refers to the allegations as ridiculous. Robson lies about other people being abused who have clearly denied it and they still do.
So Robson one day danced happy to Michael Jackson’s songs and the next day he was scarred because he suddenly realized at 29 the abuse he allegedly experienced which he didn’t realize during the 2005 trial ?
How come James Safechuck’s lawsuit was copypaste from hardcore pedophile and public advocate for the NAMBLA Victor Gutierrez, whom Michael Jackson sued for slander in 1998 ? Gutuirrez was ordered to pay Michael Jackson 2.8 million $ but he filed for bankruptcy and left for Chile. False accusers who copied a pro pedophilia fiction book.
How come Robson testified UNDER OATH in 2005 that Michael Jackson never showed him porn yet in his civil suit he claimed the exact opposite?
If Safechuck confessed to his mother in 2005 that he was indeed molested by Michael Jackson as he now alleges then why didn’t she do or say anything during a child rape trial? Robson didn ’t understand he experienced abuse while he testified as a sexually active adult on a sex abuse trial, Safechuck confessed his abuse to his mother but she did NOTHING and he refused to testify for the Prosecution? So from 2005 until 2011 when incidentally Robson lost the MJ one director job , all these people , Safechuck , his mother and Robson DID AND SAID NOTHING ? Why would Safechuck’s mother pretend that she didn’t know about her son’s abuse in 2005 which he allegedly confessed to her then?in that case Safechuck’s mother and Safechuck should be held responsible for withhodling key evidence from a criminal trial and Robson should be charged for commiting perjury twice.
Wade Robson defends Michael Jackson for 20 years , participates in tributes after his death, begs the Jackson family for an invitation to his Memorial Service , then gets rejected from Cirqe du Soleil show , then comes out of accusations of child molestation against him? He suddenly realized his alleged abuse then?
On the one hand Robson claimed he didn’t understand it was abuse he endured at Michael Jackson’s hands yet at the same time he claimed that the reason he didn’t come forward all these years is because he felt sorry for his kids. These two claims are contradictory. So were Robson and Safechuck unable even into their adulthood to realize that sex between a man and a child is wrong and abuse ( including anal and rape) , Safechuck told his mother the truth in 2005 , yet she did nothing , he refused to testify against Michael Jackson and Robson defended him because firstly he didn’t understand yet he had been abused but he also lied to protect Michael Jackson and his kids and Michael Jackson risked to have his own abuse victim testify for him?
Robson and Safechuck when asked questions about their relationship with their families after the premiere of the ‘’ documentary’’ started giggling and smiling . Firstly , what is funny about that and secondly why would they giggle if they watched the alleged molestation they experienced. One would think they would be at least sad.
Take for example Robson's lawsuit and deposition. In his lawsuit he described in detail how MJ molested him. Then in his deposition he said he didn’t believe anything out of the ordinary happened that night.

42. There are plenty of videos where Wade and his family states Michael never EVER touched him inappropriately and he’s absolutely innocent.
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2019-03-11, 20:33
  #629
Medlem
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Det är inte så domstolar funkar, men det vet du såklart. Och alla andra här inne som förbiser faktumet att Wade och den där andra killen utnyttjar Metoo rörelsen på en död snubbe för att bli rika och slippa jobba en dag till i sina usla liv. Samma döda snubbe de försvarat tidigare som vuxna människor. Men äsh, det förbiser vi.



Du slösar din tid med att argumentera med MJ hatare/troll i tråden. De trodde att han var pedofil redan innan dokumentären. Inga ljushuvuden på flashback direkt.

Äsch, jag har roligt. I normala fall hade jag blivit förbannad. Men det måste vara kaffet den här gången. Jag vill inte att de ska säga saker oemotsagda så att de som inte kan så mycket tar det som sanning, precis som de som ser den här dokumentären.
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2019-03-11, 20:34
  #630
Medlem
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Men utan den här filmen och allt det som Michael Jackson påstås ha gjort, alltså utan allt sådant som vi INTE säkert vet att han har gjort. Vad var det då för suspekt med hans beteende jämfört med andra vuxnas beteende, tex föräldrar som leker och har jätteroligt och har jättemysigt i sängen med sina barn?

Känner du till några föräldrar som leker och har jätteroligt och har jättemysigt i sängen med andras barn?
För att inte tala om en vuxen karl som gör det på egen hand nattetid?
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2019-03-11, 20:37
  #631
Medlem
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Äsch, jag har roligt. I normala fall hade jag blivit förbannad. Men det måste vara kaffet den här gången. Jag vill inte att de ska säga saker oemotsagda så att de som inte kan så mycket tar det som sanning, precis som de som ser den här dokumentären.
Kommer hända oavsett. Det är internet vi är på. Samma ställe där folk övertygar andra om att jorden är platt. Låt det sjunka in
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2019-03-11, 20:38
  #632
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Har du sett dokumentären?
Vilka hål ser du? måste ju vara en hel del eftersom det är 4 timmars utläggningar.
Exempelvis faktumet att han var tvungen att ändra texten på sin webbsida efter att man upptäckt motsägelser i dokumentären. Det finns några bra informativa Youtubevideor som förklarar hålen mer ingående än jag kan göra i en Flashbackpost. Jag citerar ett inlägg där man går igenom en del av det nedan.

Jag har intresserat mig för det här ämnet och diskuterat det i exakt tio år. Du behöver lite bättre argument än "jag såg en dokumentär".

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I’ve felt total and utter shame at my industry as the coverage of tonight’s Michael Jackson TV show has grown increasingly dishonest and dangerous. I’ve worked in the media since I was a teenager. The whole media knows these two men are liars. But that’s not good for clicks or ratings.

For five years, these men have been suing Michael Jackson’s estate for hundreds of millions of dollars. This lawsuit has generated thousands of pages of court records: witness statements, motions, depositions and disclosure. These public documents PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt that the men are lying. The whole media knows about these documents, but is refusing to report on their contents. I’ve tried not to fill my Facebook feed with posts about this, but you are all being lied to from every direction. So this is my contribution to the debate on Facebook – a list of just some of the public record information the media is refusing to tell you.

Both men strenuously defended Jackson, including under oath, for decades, and only decided they’d been molested years after his death, when they were both in financial trouble and filed a lawsuit seeking hundreds of millions of dollars. That lawsuit was thrown out of court – twice – but the men are in the middle of an appeal, giving them a gigantic financial motive to lie.

Since filing their lawsuit, both men have repeatedly changed their stories, frequently telling directly contradictory versions of the same supposed events. For example, Wade Robson has told at least four directly contradictory stories about the first time Jackson supposedly abused him.

In the lawsuit, Robson was caught lying under oath so brazenly that the judge threw out his entire witness statement and said no rational juror could ever believe his account.

Between 2012 and 2014, Robson wrote two drafts of an abuse memoir and tried unsuccessfully to sell them to publishers. Meanwhile, he lied under oath and said he’d never discussed his allegations with anyone except his lawyers. When the Jackson estate discovered he’d actually been shopping books, the court ordered him to produce the drafts as evidence. They revealed the story of his abuse had changed significantly from one draft to the next.

Robson was also ordered to release his emails as evidence. He breached the order repeatedly, first by claiming they didn’t exist, then by simply refusing to hand them over. Then he redacted all the emails between himself and his family members and cited ‘attorney-client’ privilege, even though none of his family are attorneys.

When he eventually complied with the court order and released the emails, they revealed that at the time he was constructing his lawsuit and abuse memoir, he was researching and emailing himself links to old tabloid newspaper stories about abuse allegations against Michael Jackson.

The emails showed Robson found one particular story from the early 1990s which specifically named he and his mother. He emailed it to his mother and asked whether it was true. She replied, ‘Wow, none of that is true’. He then included it in his story anyway.

Emails also revealed that throughout 2011/12, Robson was lobbying Jackson’s estate for a job directing and choreographing an official Michael Jackson tribute show in Las Vegas. His campaign to secure this role had included sending emails explaining that his amazing friendship with Jackson meant nobody was better qualified for the role than he was, and he was devoted to doing the best job he possibly could ‘for Michael’. After being told someone else had got the job, he suddenly claimed he’d been abused and filed a creditor’s claim against the estate for millions of dollars.

Months later, according to Jimmy Safechuck, he flipped on the TV and saw Wade Robson being interviewed about his lawsuit. In that moment, Safechuck suddenly remembered that he had been abused by Jackson as well, so decided to join the lawsuit. He didn’t mention that this epiphany coincided exactly with his inheritance circling the drain after a relative died and the surviving siblings started suing each other – including him – for control of the family business.

Robson was also ordered to produce his diaries as evidence. In them, he’d written about how these allegations might rescue his failing career by making him ‘relatable and relevant’. He also wrote, ‘It’s time for me to get mine.’ When questioned under oath about what he’d meant when he wrote that, he refused to answer.

Both men tell stories in the TV show which directly contradict stories told under oath in their lawsuit. In fact, they have continued to change their stories as recently as within the last week.

For example, Jimmy Safechuck claims under oath in the lawsuit that he only remembered Jackson had abused him in 2013 when he turned on the TV and saw Robson. Yet in tonight’s TV show and interviews promoting it, he claims he knew he’d been abused in 2005 and thus, when asked to testify for Jackson’s defence ‘towards the end of the trial’, he refused to do so.

But that’s a provable lie. Safechuck was never asked to testify for Jackson’s defence. The judge ruled long before the trial began that testimony could only be heard about certain children, and Safechuck was not one of them. All testimony about Safechuck was literally banned from the courtroom. So Jackson’s defence cannot have asked him to testify – and certainly not after the trial was already underway.

Robson claimed in a BBC interview last week that Jackson had abused him ‘hundreds of times’. Yet his mother’s sworn testimony is that they went to Neverland roughly 14 times but Jackson was almost never there. She estimates the number of times they visited the ranch and he was actually there was four.

[Robson’s claim that he was abused in the recording studio while Jackson was working on his Dangerous album is completely refuted by Brad Sundberg who was present in the studio every single time Jackson was and witnessed absolutely no suspicious behaviour.] (Added by u/Catch-up

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Questioned about their financial motive, the men now say they don’t care about money and are only suing to embolden other abuse victims by holding the Jackson estate accountable. This is a provable lie. The lawsuit was originally filed under seal and Robson tried to extract a settlement from the estate with zero publicity. Only when the estate refused to pay a bean did he go public.

I could continue, but if you’re still on board with the TV show and its accusers at this point, you are irrational to the point of mania.

This TV show covers up all of this information, instead presenting two men’s heavily edited and completely unchallenged testimony without ever examining their credibility, their proven lies and perjury, their constantly changing stories or their financial motives.

It is a stain on the journalistic profession, as has been the rest of the media’s coverage.

Photo of relevant court documents

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Further information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHvmi_Cr8QY&feature=youtu.be
https://youtu.be/cBf5LGDm7dc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J1JQaIrxRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBf5LGDm7dc&feature=youtu.be
https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/the-wade-robson-allegations/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgSbSotJgUY
https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2019/02/25/a-critical-analysis-of-leaving-neverland/
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2019-03-11, 20:38
  #633
Medlem
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Så alla ingående vittnesuppgifter är fake? Det är ju renodlade WT familjer han sökt upp, dom skulle aldrig kunna hålla samman å synkronisera nånting alls.

Städerskan som sett han duscha med pojkar vid flera tillfällen?

Städerskan som är en illegal invandrare som har sålt sin story för stora summor och sedan ändrat sin story ett antal gånger? https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2018/05/12/wades-witnesses-part-2/
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2019-03-11, 20:39
  #634
Medlem
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Är det verkligen så onormalt det här att som vuxen gilla att leka, eller tom sova, med barn?
Föräldrar gör ju det med sina barn hela tiden
Att föräldrar till sina biologiska barn gör det är helt normalt. Att barnlösa främmande män vill göra det med mer eller mindre okända barn är att betrakta som patologiskt, anser jag.
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2019-03-11, 20:40
  #635
Medlem
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Exempelvis faktumet att han var tvungen att ändra texten på sin webbsida efter att man upptäckt motsägelser i dokumentären. Det finns några bra informativa Youtubevideor som förklarar hålen mer ingående än jag kan göra i en Flashbackpost. Jag citerar ett inlägg där man går igenom en del av det nedan.

Jag har intresserat mig för det här ämnet och diskuterat det i exakt tio år. Du behöver lite bättre argument än "jag såg en dokumentär".

Okej så du har inte sett dokumentären och citerar någon annans slutsatser. Knivskarp analys du gjort.
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2019-03-11, 20:43
  #636
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Det är inte bevisat att han ljugit medvetet.
Tycker själv att det är riktigt efterblivet att läsa in galna sanningar trots uppenbart trovärdiga vittnesmål.
Jo, det är bevisat. Exempelvis blev hans vittnesmål avfärdat av en domare med kommentaren att ingen vettig jurymedlem skulle tro på vad han sa. Han har ändrat texten på sin webbsida efter motsägelser i dokumentären och han har blivit påkommen med att ljuga om att han inte klarar av att lyssna på Michael Jacksons musik efter att en video där han dansar till Michael Jackson kom upp. Jag förstår att du är lite efterbliven och fäster dig vid det första bästa du ser och inte klarar av att höra bevis som säger emot din uppfattning, men detta är fakta.


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Varför skulle denna person inte vara trovärdig menar du?
På grund av vad jag har framfört.


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Vi har ju en dokumentär på fyra timmar, med män som ger oerhört trovärdiga vittnesmål.
Samtidigt så var MJ känd för att förälska sig i pojkar, ryktena gick ju redan i början på 90-talet.
Att sedan han bevisligen huserade MÅNGA pojkar i sitt böghus styrker ju anklagelserna anmärkningsvärt mycket.
Nej, det är grundlösa anklagelser av en person som bevisligen har ljugit förr. Att du inte klarar av att förstå det beror troligen på att du är lågbegåvad och inte kan ta in bevis som säger emot din uppfattning av saken.
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