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Tramadol + ketamin, lugnt?
Enligt
denna tråd på Bluelight tar det udden av ketaminruset en aning.
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Reduced effect. I only did a small amount as an allergy test of sorts, but my friend (insufflating the same amount) had a quite enjoyable experience. I was sober for the most part, with only a bit of "oddity" and little to no euphoria. I'd say it was roughly 50mg
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I took around 150 mg of Tramadol before and felt nothing but a slight body high... of course it might have been placebo.
Här är för övrigt
en studie där en låg dos ketamin har givits till patienter som använder tramadol i smärtstillande syfte, med förbättrad smärtstillande effekt.
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RESULTS: The ketamine group had less pain at rest (P = 0.01) and with movement (P = 0.02) and required less morphine (P = 0.003) throughout the 48-h study period. In the 0–24 h period, ketamine improved subjective analgesic efficacy (P = 0.008), was less sedating (P = 0.03), and required fewer physician interventions to manage severe pain (P = 0.01). Hallucinations were more common in ketamine patients, but other side effects were similar.
CONCLUSION: Small-dose ketamine was a useful addition to tramadol and morphine after major abdominal surgery.
Huruvida kombinationen blir farlig vid högre doser ketamin vågar jag inte uttala mig om.