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Jag menade att ungefär varannan förnekare påstår att talen är förfalskade för att låta så horribla som möjligt och varannan att de är feltolkade och att talen är harmlösa.
Båda påståendena är lika idiotiska förövrigt.
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Vad vill du säga med det? Det var Sonderkommando 4a som skrev det. De hade den 30 November 1941 dödat 59 018 människor, majoriteten judar.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/sitrep156.html
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Vilket i sig bara betyder att den överhängande majoriteten var judar från olika av dessa grupper. Det är inte svårt att förvränga statistisk och få den att framställas som något den inte är. Det beror på hur frågor formuleras och hur man läser av den. Det behöver dock inte ske medvetet ska tilläggas. Det räcker med att den som sammanställt statistiken, utgått från en felaktig tes när den sammanställdes. I det här fallet utgår man från att judar ska ha varit en egen grupp. (Vilket de var.) Dock missar man (medvetet?) att nämna att judar ingick i andra grupper medan de sammanställdes till den egna gruppen. Det rapporten sammanställer är att judar tillhörde majoriteten av de som avrättades.
Det här skulle jag vilja kalla svammel.
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Det var en massa substanslöst skitsnack från din källa, radioislam. De säger att det minsann inte råder några tvivel om att det är en förfalskning, men inte mycket mer än så.
Den här sidan förklarar väl hur orimligt det är att boken skulle vara skriven av någon ryss.
http://mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html
Bl.a. Det här stycket om innehållet och påståendet att det skulle vara en förfalskning.
"There are fanatical groups in the United States, France, and even Australia who call themselves "The Revisionist Historians." They actually propose that Hoss never wrote these documents - that they are a fraud. They also state that even if the documents were written by Hoss, they were obviously done under duress from the "Communist authorities" in Poland."
"The "research" and the conclusions of these "historians" are absolute rubbish. The documents written in Poland, the personal interviews given to psychiatrist G. Martin Gilbert during the Nuremberg trials, and Rudolf Hoss's blunt testimony during the trial itself are consistent with each other to such a degree that we can safely believe that the memoirs written in Poland are an elaboration of the Nuremberg testimony containing much more detail.
The documents in Death Dealer are consistent with other statements made by SS Corporal Pery Broad and the diary of SS Dr. Kremer, who also were at Auschwitz, and with personal accounts by prisoners in the essential facts. They differ only when Hoss attempts to recall exact dates and numbers of prisoners. They also differ when Hoss writes about his part in the Final Solution. Hoss maintains that he was only following orders and being a good Nazi, and that he did this with no thought or regard to moral consequences because "Befehl ist Befehl" - "orders are orders," therefore, they must be followed. It is only at the end of his autobiography, written almost two years after the war ended, that the moral implications of what Hoss did occurred to him and began to affect him consciously.
The two final letters to his wife and his children reveal the heavy burden of guilt that he was experiencing. Where Höss does consciously lie is in regard to his wife, Hedwig, and her knowledge of the mass killings, in order to protect her and their children from the inevitable postwar stigma and finger-pointing. This is evident by examining the statements made to psychiatrist Gilbert in 1945 and his last statements in 1947. Hoss revealed to Gilbert that one day at a party hosted at the Hoss villa, his wife overheard comments made by the Gauleiter of Silesia, Fritz Bracht, about the mass gassings occurring at Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Later that evening in their bedroom, she questioned him about what she had heard. Hoss told Gilbert that he answered his wife's questions. He said that this was the only time he broke Himmler's order about absolute secrecy and discussed the Final Solution with anyone. Only Hoss and his wife know what took place that evening and what the contents of the conversation were. Thereafter, Frau Hoss refused to sleep in the same bed with her husband "and physical intimacy between the couple was rare. They became emotionally estranged from each other."
Man vet alltså att Höss skrev sina memoarer efter en uppmaning från ett av de juridiska ombuden, Jan Sehn. De stämmer väl överens med de berättelser han förde med sin Psykolog, G. Martin Gilbert, samt med berättelser från andra Nazister t.ex. Pery Broad och Dr. Kremers dagbok.
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På sidan 183, kapitel VII i boken The Commandant står det tydligt att Höss blev slagen dagligen av en ung fångvaktare. Då var han illa där an, psykiskt och kände av en begynnande fängelsepsykos.Ingen säger att han inte blide torterade. Det med engelsmännen är dokumenterad. Som du själv nämnde att det finns bildbevis
Men finns inga bevis om det med polen. Men kan du lägga fram de bevisen hade det önskvärt. Också fotnot från boken The Commandant av Ian Baxter. The Nuremberg Interviews
Det jag regerade på, är"skuggjag" påstående att boken skulle vara förfalskning.
Men finns inga bevis om det med polen. Men kan du lägga fram de bevisen hade det önskvärt. Också fotnot från boken The Commandant av Ian Baxter. The Nuremberg Interviews
Det jag regerade på, är"skuggjag" påstående att boken skulle vara förfalskning.
I The Nuremberg Interviews står det om hans fötter på sidan 310 i kapitlet om honom. Det var några dagar före Kaltenbrunner rättegången som Dr. Leon Goldensohn träffade Höss.
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Hedwig Höss har aldrig erkännt något om att "förintelsen" skulle ha skett. Ingen i familjen hade upplevt någonting sådant.Jag menade att ungefär varannan förnekare påstår att talen är förfalskade för att låta så horribla som möjligt och varannan att de är feltolkade och att talen är harmlösa.
Båda påståendena är lika idiotiska förövrigt.
Vad vill du säga med det? Det var Sonderkommando 4a som skrev det. De hade den 30 November 1941 dödat 59 018 människor, majoriteten judar.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/sitrep156.html
Det här skulle jag vilja kalla svammel.
Det var en massa substanslöst skitsnack från din källa, radioislam. De säger att det minsann inte råder några tvivel om att det är en förfalskning, men inte mycket mer än så.
Den här sidan förklarar väl hur orimligt det är att boken skulle vara skriven av någon ryss.
http://mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html
Bl.a. Det här stycket om innehållet och påståendet att det skulle vara en förfalskning.
"There are fanatical groups in the United States, France, and even Australia who call themselves "The Revisionist Historians." They actually propose that Hoss never wrote these documents - that they are a fraud. They also state that even if the documents were written by Hoss, they were obviously done under duress from the "Communist authorities" in Poland."
"The "research" and the conclusions of these "historians" are absolute rubbish. The documents written in Poland, the personal interviews given to psychiatrist G. Martin Gilbert during the Nuremberg trials, and Rudolf Hoss's blunt testimony during the trial itself are consistent with each other to such a degree that we can safely believe that the memoirs written in Poland are an elaboration of the Nuremberg testimony containing much more detail.
The documents in Death Dealer are consistent with other statements made by SS Corporal Pery Broad and the diary of SS Dr. Kremer, who also were at Auschwitz, and with personal accounts by prisoners in the essential facts. They differ only when Hoss attempts to recall exact dates and numbers of prisoners. They also differ when Hoss writes about his part in the Final Solution. Hoss maintains that he was only following orders and being a good Nazi, and that he did this with no thought or regard to moral consequences because "Befehl ist Befehl" - "orders are orders," therefore, they must be followed. It is only at the end of his autobiography, written almost two years after the war ended, that the moral implications of what Hoss did occurred to him and began to affect him consciously.
The two final letters to his wife and his children reveal the heavy burden of guilt that he was experiencing. Where Höss does consciously lie is in regard to his wife, Hedwig, and her knowledge of the mass killings, in order to protect her and their children from the inevitable postwar stigma and finger-pointing. This is evident by examining the statements made to psychiatrist Gilbert in 1945 and his last statements in 1947. Hoss revealed to Gilbert that one day at a party hosted at the Hoss villa, his wife overheard comments made by the Gauleiter of Silesia, Fritz Bracht, about the mass gassings occurring at Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Later that evening in their bedroom, she questioned him about what she had heard. Hoss told Gilbert that he answered his wife's questions. He said that this was the only time he broke Himmler's order about absolute secrecy and discussed the Final Solution with anyone. Only Hoss and his wife know what took place that evening and what the contents of the conversation were. Thereafter, Frau Hoss refused to sleep in the same bed with her husband "and physical intimacy between the couple was rare. They became emotionally estranged from each other."
Man vet alltså att Höss skrev sina memoarer efter en uppmaning från ett av de juridiska ombuden, Jan Sehn. De stämmer väl överens med de berättelser han förde med sin Psykolog, G. Martin Gilbert, samt med berättelser från andra Nazister t.ex. Pery Broad och Dr. Kremers dagbok.
Båda påståendena är lika idiotiska förövrigt.
Vad vill du säga med det? Det var Sonderkommando 4a som skrev det. De hade den 30 November 1941 dödat 59 018 människor, majoriteten judar.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/sitrep156.html
Det här skulle jag vilja kalla svammel.
Det var en massa substanslöst skitsnack från din källa, radioislam. De säger att det minsann inte råder några tvivel om att det är en förfalskning, men inte mycket mer än så.
Den här sidan förklarar väl hur orimligt det är att boken skulle vara skriven av någon ryss.
http://mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html
Bl.a. Det här stycket om innehållet och påståendet att det skulle vara en förfalskning.
"There are fanatical groups in the United States, France, and even Australia who call themselves "The Revisionist Historians." They actually propose that Hoss never wrote these documents - that they are a fraud. They also state that even if the documents were written by Hoss, they were obviously done under duress from the "Communist authorities" in Poland."
"The "research" and the conclusions of these "historians" are absolute rubbish. The documents written in Poland, the personal interviews given to psychiatrist G. Martin Gilbert during the Nuremberg trials, and Rudolf Hoss's blunt testimony during the trial itself are consistent with each other to such a degree that we can safely believe that the memoirs written in Poland are an elaboration of the Nuremberg testimony containing much more detail.
The documents in Death Dealer are consistent with other statements made by SS Corporal Pery Broad and the diary of SS Dr. Kremer, who also were at Auschwitz, and with personal accounts by prisoners in the essential facts. They differ only when Hoss attempts to recall exact dates and numbers of prisoners. They also differ when Hoss writes about his part in the Final Solution. Hoss maintains that he was only following orders and being a good Nazi, and that he did this with no thought or regard to moral consequences because "Befehl ist Befehl" - "orders are orders," therefore, they must be followed. It is only at the end of his autobiography, written almost two years after the war ended, that the moral implications of what Hoss did occurred to him and began to affect him consciously.
The two final letters to his wife and his children reveal the heavy burden of guilt that he was experiencing. Where Höss does consciously lie is in regard to his wife, Hedwig, and her knowledge of the mass killings, in order to protect her and their children from the inevitable postwar stigma and finger-pointing. This is evident by examining the statements made to psychiatrist Gilbert in 1945 and his last statements in 1947. Hoss revealed to Gilbert that one day at a party hosted at the Hoss villa, his wife overheard comments made by the Gauleiter of Silesia, Fritz Bracht, about the mass gassings occurring at Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Later that evening in their bedroom, she questioned him about what she had heard. Hoss told Gilbert that he answered his wife's questions. He said that this was the only time he broke Himmler's order about absolute secrecy and discussed the Final Solution with anyone. Only Hoss and his wife know what took place that evening and what the contents of the conversation were. Thereafter, Frau Hoss refused to sleep in the same bed with her husband "and physical intimacy between the couple was rare. They became emotionally estranged from each other."
Man vet alltså att Höss skrev sina memoarer efter en uppmaning från ett av de juridiska ombuden, Jan Sehn. De stämmer väl överens med de berättelser han förde med sin Psykolog, G. Martin Gilbert, samt med berättelser från andra Nazister t.ex. Pery Broad och Dr. Kremers dagbok.
Varför Hedwig inte sov i samma rum som sin man hade andra orsaker: Hody.
Efter November 1943 flyttade Höss bort ifrån Auschwitz området, men äktenskapet mellan dem var alltid lika gott.
Är det Rainer Höss som .... vilken utgåva är ditt citat ifrån? Den senaste som kom ut ifjol?
Du måste veta att Rainer Höss ljuger om sin egna farfar, och är en betald lögnare om att förintelsen skett. Han är sponsorerad av Judar och andra som arbetar emot dagens Nationalsocialism.
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