Bevisa att Gud existerar [Sammanfogad tråd /Mod]

Men du tror på ett grundlöst påstående, jag kan säga att min högra stortånagel som föll av för snart ett år sedan ligger till grund för hela universum och att man således skall acceptera min f.d stortånagel som ett gudomligt ting då det är ett enkelt svar... som gör det hela möjligt? Ha lite jävla självdistans för i helvete och sluta resonera som ett jävla barn. Du är vuxen, börja bete dig som sådan!

Varför läser du inte mitt inlägg innan du svarar? Jag spekulerar inte om saker jag inte har koll på, allt jag vet är att kvantmekaniken har potentiella förklaringar till the big bang. Men det spelar ingen roll huruvida jag vet var the big bang kom ifrån eller inte, det finns starka bevis för att det har hänt. Det är allt jag med säkerhet kan säga.

Dessutom så är inte faktumet att vi existerar något bevis för guds existens. Dina argument väger ingen tyngd om du inte har empiriska bevis som grund, vilket du inte har.

Spelar "förnimmelsearten" någon roll? Det finns mycket vi inte ser. Vill du reducera existenskriteriet till synförnimmelser blir du även tvungen att förneka alla dessa vetenskapens teoretiska entiteters (elektroner, fotoner, kvarkar etc.) existens.

Men guds, skapad eller oskapad, existens är inte slumpartad? Enligt wikipedia är slump en icke kasual händelse. En händelse utan orsak. Vad passar bättre in under detta än en gud som aldrig skapats och som bara råkar existera utan anledning?

Människor skrev Koranen. Människor skrev Bibeln. Människor skrev Toran.

Gudar finns nog inte. Och om det finns gudar, så bryr de sig uppenbarligen inte om oss. Kanske de svävar runt på sitt eget lilla plan och myser.

Allting och ingenting är alldeles för abstrakt att hantera utan matematik. Att vi inte har alla svar år 2013 betyder inte att det vi har lärt oss hittills är fel.

Jag har inga invändningar mot ditt syfte som sådant, reagerade endast på det sätt du framlade argumentet. Mig veterligen har man inte heller kunnat reducera "what-it's-like-to-be-ness", det är tveksamt om det överhuvudtaget går i min mening.

THE BIG BANG

He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth.
(Qur'an 6:101)

"And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might,
and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."
(Qur'an 51:47)

NEBULA
A nebula (from Latin: "mist" [1]; pl. nebulae or nebulæ, with ligature or nebulas) is an
interstellar cloud of dust, hydrogen gas and plasma. It is the first stage of a star's cycle.
Nebulae often form star-forming regions, such as in the Eagle Nebula.


“Moreover, He Comprehended in His design the sky,
and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth:
‘Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly.’ They said:
‘We do come (together), in willing obedience.’”
(Qur’an 41:11)

"When the sky is torn apart, so it was (like)
a red rose, like ointment."
(Qur'an 55:37)

ORBITS OF THE STARS AND PLANETS

"It is He Who created the night and the day, and
the sun and the moon. They swim along,
each in an orbit. "
(Qur'an 21:33)









“It is He Who created the Night and the Day,
and the sun and the moon: All (the celestial bodies)
swim along, each in its rounded course.”
(Qur’an 21:33)


"He has ordained the sun and the moon, each one runs
(it's course) for an appointed time."
(Qur'an 13:2)

“It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon,
nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each (just)
swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).”
(Qur’an 36:40)

"The sun and the moon follow courses
precisely computed"
(Qur'an 55:5)

EARTH'S PROTECTIVE MAGNETIC FIELD

"And We have made the heaven a roof, safe and well guarded. Yet they turn away from its signs."
(Qur'an 21:32)

THE MOUNTAINS AS PEGS
Mountains act like stakes or tent pegs that hold the earth’s crust and give it
stability.

“Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse
and the mountains as pegs?”
(Qur’an 78:6-7)

"By the returning atmosphere.
By the fractured earth."
(Qur'an 86:12)


“And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm,
lest it should shake with them.”
(Qur’an 21:31)

THE EGG SHAPED EARTH
The shape similar to an
ostrich egg. He was correct and, because of this bulge, the distance from Earth's centre to sea level is
roughly 21 kilometres (13 miles) greater
at the equator than at the poles.

“And we have made the earth egg shaped”.
(lit.trans: ostrich egg)
(Qur’an 79:30)

THE DESCENT OF IRON
Iron is not a natural metal from earth as the suns heat is not enough for it to melt and come to be.

"We sent aforetime our messengers with clear signs
and sent down with them the book and the balance
(of right and wrong), that men may stand forth in
justice; and we sent down iron, in which is great might,
as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may
test who it is that will help, unseen, him and his
messengers: for Allah is full of strength, exalted in might"
(Qur'an 57:25)

THE MOON HAS REFLECTED LIGHT


"Blessed is He who made constellations in the sky
and placed there in a lamp, and a moon giving light."
(Qur'an 25:61)

"It is He who made the sun to light up (the sky)
and the moon that is lit."
(Qur'an 10:5)

THE SUN

“And the Sun runs its course for a period determined for it;
that is the decree of (Him) the exalted in Might,
the All-Knowing.”
(Qur’an 36:38)

"…as if it were a brilliant star……..whose oil (fuel)
is well lit, even no fire touches it."
(Qur'an 24:35)

"when stars lose their lustre"
(Qur'an 77:8 )

"He has ordained the sun and the moon, each one runs
(it's course) for an appointed time."
(Qur'an 13:2)


"When the sun is rounded (swelling like a ball)"
"When the stars have collapsed"
"When the oceans boil over in a swell"
(Qur'an 81:6)

THE ATOM

“The Unbelievers say, ‘Never to us will come The Hour’:
say, ‘Nay! but most surely, by my Lord, it will come
upon you by Him Who knows the unseen – from Whom
is not hidden the least little atom in the Heavens or
on earth: nor is there anything less than that, or greater,
but is in the Record Perspicuous.’”
(Qur’an 34:3)

THE WATER CYCLE

“Seest thou not that Allah sends down rain
from the sky, and leads it through springs in
the earth? then He causes to grow, therewith,
produce of various colours.”
(Qur’an 39:21)

“By the Firmament which returns (in its round),”
(Qur’an 86:11)

“He sends down rain from the sky and with it gives
life to the earth after it is dead: Verily in that are
Signs for those who are wise.”
(Qur’an 30:24)

“And We send down water from the sky according to
(due) measure, and We cause it to soak in the soil;
and We certainly are able to drain it off (with ease).”
(Qur’an 23:18)



“And We send the fecundating winds, then cause
the rain to descend from the sky, therewith providing
you with water (in abundance).”
(Qur’an 15:22)

“Seest thou not that Allah makes the clouds move gently,
then joins them together, then makes them
into a heap?– then wilt thou see rain issue
forth from their midst. And He sends down from
the skymountain masses (of clouds) wherein is hail:
He strikes therewith whom He pleases and He turns it
away from whom He pleases. the vivid flash of His
lightning well-nigh blinds the sight.”
(Qur’an 24:43)

“It is Allah Who sends the Winds, and they raise
the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky
as He wills, and break them into fragments, until thou
seest raindrops issue from the midst thereof: then
when He has made them reach such of His servants
as He wills, behold, they do rejoice!”
(Qur’an 30:48)

.LIGHTNING
Meteorologists have found that these cumulonimbus clouds, that shower hail, reach a height of 25,000 to
30,000 ft (4.7 to 5.7 miles), like mountains, as the Qur'an said, “...And He sends down hail from
mountains (clouds) in the sky...”

"....And He sends down hail from mountains (clouds)
in the sky, and He strikes with it whomever He wills,
and turns it from whomever He wills.
The vivid flash of its lightning nearly blinds the sight."
(Qur'an, 24:43)


WATER BARRIERS

“He has let free the two bodies of flowing water,
meeting together: Between them is a Barrier
which they do not transgress.”
(Qur’an 55:19-20)


“And made a separating bar between the
two bodies of flowing water?”
(Qur’an 27:61)



“It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing
water: one palatable and sweet, and the other salty and bitter;
yet has He made a barrier between them, and a partition
that is forbidden to be passed.
(Qur’an 25:53)

THE OCEAN

“Or (the Unbelievers’ state) is like the depths
of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed
with billow topped by billow, topped by (dark)
clouds: depths of darkness, one above another:
if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it!
For any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light!”
(Qur’an 24:40)

BOTANY
PLANTS HAVE MALE AND FEMALE

"And has sent down water from the sky.’ With it
have We produced diverse pairs of plants each
separate from the others.”
(Qur’an 20:53)

“And fruit of every kind He made in pairs,
two and two.”
(Qur’an 13:3)

PAIRS

“And of everything We have created pairs.”
(Qur’an 51:49)

“Glory to Allah, Who created in pairs all things that
the Earth produces, as well as their own (human) kind
and (other) things of which they have no knowledge.”
(Qur’an 36:36)

ANIMAL COMMUNITIES

“There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor
a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of)
communities like you.”
(Qur’an 6:38)

ANIMAL COMMUNITIES

“Do they not look at the birds, held poised in
the midst of (the air and) the sky? Nothing holds
them up but (the power of) Allah. Verily in this
are Signs for those who believe.”
(Qur’an 16:79)

THE LIFE CYCLE

Allah splits the seed and kernel. He brings forth the
living from the dead, and produces the dead out of the living.
That is Allah, so how are you misguided?
(Qur'an 6:95)

THE PATH OF THE BEE

“Thy Lord spake by inspiration unto the bee, saying,
provide thee houses in the mountains, and in the trees,
and of those materials wherewith men build hives for thee;
Then to eat of all the produce (of the earth), and
find with skill the spacious paths of its Lord:
there issues from within their bodies a drink of
varying colours,wherein is healing for men: verily
in this is a Sign for those who give thought.”
(Qur’an 16:68-69)

HONEY

“Thy Lord spake by inspiration unto the bee, saying,
provide thee houses in the mountains, and in the trees,
and of those materials wherewith men build hives for thee;
Then to eat of all the produce (of the earth), and find with
skill the spacious paths of its Lord: there issues from
within their bodies a drink of varying colours,
wherein is healing for men: verily in this is a Sign for
those who give thought. ”
(Qur’an 16:68-69)

COW MILK

“And verily in cattle there is a lesson for you.
We give you to drink of what is inside their bodies,
coming from a conjunction between the contents of the
intestine and the blood, a milk pure and pleasant for
those who drink it.”
(Qur’an 16:66)

“And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example:
from within their bodies We produce (milk)
for you to drink; there are, in them,
(besides), numerous (other) benefits for you;
and of their (meat) ye eat.”
(Qur’an 23:21)

WHY PORK IS BAD

He has only forbidden you carrion, blood and pork
and what has been consecrated to other than Allah.
But anyone who is forced to eat it-without desiring it
or going to excess in it-commits no crime. Allah is
Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
(Qur'an 2:173)

EMBRYOLOGY

“If ye realise this not,
ask of those who possess the Message.”
(Qur’an 16:43 & 21:7)

“Proclaim! (or Read!) In the name of thy Lord
and Cherisher, Who created – Created man, out of a
(mere) clot of congealed blood.”
(Qur’an 96:1-2)

“Now let man but think from what he is created!
He is created from a drop emitted – Proceeding from
between the back bone and the ribs.”
(Qur’an 86:5-7)

O people, if you have any doubt about
resurrection, (remember that) we created you
from dust, and subsequently from a tiny drop,
which turns into a hanging (embryo), then it
becomes a fetus that is given life or deemed
lifeless. We thus clarify things for you. We settle
in the wombs whatever we will for a
predetermined period. We then bring you out as
infants, then you reach maturity. While some of
you die young, others live to the worst age, only
to find out that no more knowledge can be
attained beyond a certain limit. Also, you look at
a land that is dead, then as soon as we shower
it with water, it vibrates with life and grows all
kinds of beautiful plants.
(Qur'an 22:5)

Subsequently, we reproduced him from a tiny drop,
that is placed into a well protected repository.
(Qur'an 23:13)

Then we developed the drop into a hanging (embryo),
then developed the hanging (embryo) into a bite-size (fetus),
then created the bite-size (fetus) into bones, then covered
the bones with flesh. We thus produce a new creature.
Most blessed is Allah, the best Creator.
(Qur'an 23:14)

“And made his progeny from a quintessence
of the nature of a fluid despised.”
(Qur’an 32:8)

“Verily We created man from a drop of mingled sperm.”
(Qur’an 76:2)

“That He did create in pairs – male and female,
from a seed when lodged (in its place).”
(Qur’an 53:45-46)

“Was he not a drop of sperm emitted
(in lowly form)? “Then did he become
a clinging clot; then did (Allah) make
and fashion (him) in due proportion.
“And of him He made two sexes, male
and female.”
(Qur’an 75:37-39)

“He makes you, in the wombs of your mothers,
in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness.”
(Qur’an 39:6)

Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);
then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm
in a place of rest, firmly fixed; then We made the sperm
into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made
a (foetus) lump; then We made out of that
lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh;
then We developed out of it another creature.
so blessed be Allah, the Best to create!”
(Qur’an 23:12-14)

“Was he not a drop of sperm emitted
(in lowly form)? Then did he become
a clinging clot; then did (Allah) make
and fashion (him) in due proportion.
and of him He made two sexes, male
and female.”
(Qur’an 75:37-39)

“Him Who created thee, fashioned thee in due proportion,
and gave thee a just bias; in whatever Form He wills,
does He put thee together.”
(Qur’an 82:7-8)

“We created you out of dust, then out of sperm,
then out of a leech-like clot, then out of a morsel of flesh,
partly formed and partly unformed
that We may manifest (Our Power) to you.”
(Qur’an 22:5)

“And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing
and sight and feeling (and understanding).”
(Qur’an 32:9)

“Verily We created man from a drop of mingled sperm,
in order to try him: so We gave him (the gifts),
of Hearing and Sight.”
(Qur’an 76:2)

“It is He Who has created for you (the faculties of)
hearing, sight, feeling and understanding:
little thanks it is ye give!”
(Qur’an 23:78)

HUMANS MADE FROM THE SAME ELEMENTS FOUND IN SOIL OR CLAY
When the human body is examined today, it may be discovered that many elements present on
the earth are also to be found in the body. Living tissues contain 95% carbon, hydrogen, oxygen,
nitrogen, phosphorus and sulphur, with a total of 26 different elements
Below is a diagram showing the distribution of the elements in a 70-kilo human being.

Your Lord said to the angels, "I am going to create a human being out of clay. When I have formed him and breathed My Spirit into him, fall down in prostration to him!"
(Qur'an 38:71-72)

Then inquire of them: Is it they who are stronger in structure or other things We have created? We created them from sticky clay.
(Qur'an 37:11)

We created man from an extract of clay. (Qur'an 23:12)

FINGERPRINTS

“Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones?
Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order
the very tips of his fingers.”
(Qur’an 75:3-4)

THE CEREBRUM
If we look into the skull at the front of the head, we will find the pre-frontal area of the cerebrum
What does physiology tell us about the function of this area? A book entitled Essentials of
Anatomy & Physiology says about this area, “The motivation and the foresight to plan and
initiate movements occur in the anterior portion of the frontal lobes, the pre-frontal area. This is a
region of association cortex...” Also the book says, “In relation to its involvement in motivation, the
pre-frontal area is also thought to be the functional center for aggression....”

No! If he does not stop, We will take him by the
forelock (front of the head / fringe), a lying,
sinful forelock!
(Quran 96:15)

PAIN RECEPTORS IN THE SKIN

“Those who reject our signs,
We shall soon cast into the Fire;
as often as their skins are roasted through,
We shall change them for fresh skins,
that they may taste the Penalty:
for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.”
(Qur’an 4:56)

CONCLUSION

“Soon will We show them Our Signs in the (furthest)
regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until
it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth
it is not enough that Thy Lord doth witness
all things?”
(Qur’an 41:53)

“Behold! In the creation of the heavens and the earth,
and the alternation of Night and Day –
there are indeed Signs for men of understanding .”
(Qur’an 3:190)

Då kör jag också copy-paste, se http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an_and_the_Big_Bang.

Ni har ju inget svar på frågan, eller.
Mitt svar är logiskt och tro-bart, du driver runt med kritik men inget svar. LOL

http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Embryology_in_the_Qur%27an/http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Embryology_in_Islamic_Scripture - och där finner du embryologin.

Är det logiskt att använda sig av halmgubbar och copy-paste?