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Jesus säger väl att han är Messias, Guds son?
Jesus: "Vem säger ni att jag är?"
Petrus: "Du är Messias, den levande Gudens son."
Jesus "Välsignad är du, för detta uppenbarades inte för dej av människor utan av min Fader i himlen."
Matteus 15:16-17
Men evangeliernas författare implicerar väl att Jesus är en gudomlighet?
"I begynnelsen var Ordet, och Ordet fanns hos Gud, och Ordet var Gud. /.../ Och Ordet blev människa och bodde bland oss..."
Johannes 1:1-3, 14
Det måste väl gå att separera evangeliernas åsikt om vad Jesus är (=Gud) och det som Jesus antyder att han är (=Messias)? Men Jesus kan väl iofs ha ansett sig vara Gud men ej vågat säga det rakt ut....
Och kristna tror att Jusus är gudomlig (sedan kyrkomötet i Nicea där man röstade om det).
(Tror förresten det är den 75 versen i den 5 suran:
[5:75] "Messias, Marias son, är inget annat än en budbärare som budbärarna före honom, och hans mor var ett helgon. Båda två brukade äta av maten. Lägg märke till hur vi förklarar uppenbarelserna för dem, och lägg märke till hur de ändå avviker!")
Jag hade glömt bort alla passager i Johannes evangeliet, det finns en del i de andra Evangeliumen, såsom den i Matteus som du påpeka, men Johannes är smockat men ord från Jesus själv om hans status som Guds Son.
"The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am [he]"
Johannes 4:25-26
"Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him."
Johannes 9:35-38
"I and [my] Father are one."
Johannes 10:30
"Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father [is] in me, and I in him."
Johannes 10:36-38
Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.
When Jesus heard [that], he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.
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Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat [still] in the house.
Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give [it] thee.
Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
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It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.
Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been [dead] four days.
Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
Then they took away the stone [from the place] where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up [his] eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said [it], that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.
Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him.
Johannes kapitel 11 verser:
3-4
20b-27
38-45
"But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace [be] unto you.
Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed."
Johannes 20:24-29
Observera att Thomas kallar Jesus för hans Herre OCH Gud, vilket Jesus inte emotsäger!!
Koranen är alltså i Bibelns bemärkelse en anti-kristen skrift, då den förnekar att Jesus är Guds Son, och är därför totalt inkompatibla med varandra!! "Profeten" Muhammed var en profet, men en profet för Satan.