Beelzebub, Djävulen, Draken, Hin Håle, Lucifer, Mammon, Odjuret, Ormen eller Satan?

Enligt Jesus så är just de som mördar djävulens barn.
"-Ni har djävulen till er fader. Och vad er fader har begär till, det vill ni göra. Han har varit en mördare från början och har aldrig stått på sanningens sida, eftersom sanning inte finns i honom. När han talar lögn, talar han av sitt eget, ty han är en lögnare, ja, lögnens fader."

"Därav är uppenbart vilka som äro Guds barn, och vilka som äro djävulens barn, därav att var och en som icke gör vad rättfärdigt är, han är icke av Gud, ej heller den som icke älskar sin broder. Ty detta är det budskap som I haven hört från begynnelsen, att vi skola älska varandra och icke likna Kain, som var av den onde och slog ihjäl sin broder. Och varför slog han ihjäl honom? Därför att hans egna gärningar voro onda och hans broders gärningar rättfärdiga."

Här handlar det om satans barn. Det står om Judas, han som förådde Jesus att:
"Därvid doppade han (Jesus) brödstycket och räckte det åt Judas, Simon Iskariots son. Då, när denne hade tagit emot brödstycket, for Satan in i honom. ... Då han nu hade tagit emot brödstycket, gick han strax ut; och det var natt."

Jag tycker det är bra att just detta kommer fram i debatten. Just att det är djävulen som är ond och att det är den som är en mördare och inte den himmelske Fadern, så som en del vill mena då de beskyller den himmelske Fadern för mordet på Jesus. De säger ju att det var Fadern som krävde att Jesus skulle mördas för att han skulle kunna förlåta synder - men så är det nu inte. Synder förlåts inte på det viset. En synd kan inte sona en annan synd. Inte heller är synden till sin natur sådan att den kan fixas på extern väg. Synden är en natur hos exploranden, den enskilde individen. Där individen själv har att ta ställning för den eller mot den. Man kan aldrig köpa sig fri från en skuld av det här slaget eftersom det är en läggning hos individen som denne själv måste ta itu med.

Jag väntar fortfarande på ett entydlig svar. Det kanske döljer sig mellan raderna och jag är för dum för att hitta det. Du verkar vara en av de mest pålästa i denna debatt, därför är ditt svar av stor vikt för mig.

En mördare är djävulens barn. Korsriddarna och häxjägarna mördade. De är med andra ord djävulens barn. De trodde att de var kristna, men egentligen hade de misstolkat religionen, precis som alla andra människor som mördar i Guds namn.

Har jag förstått allting rätt?

Här tar vi ett par exempel:
Johannes 3:16 (Bibel 2000)
Så älskade Gud världen att han gav den sin ende son, för att de som tror på honom inte skall gå under utan ha evigt liv.

John 3:16 (King James Bible)
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

ser du skillnaden?

Eller varför inte:
1 Mosebok 22:8 (Bibel 2000)
”Min son”, sade Abraham, ”Gud utser åt sig det får som skall offras.” Så gick de båda tillsammans.

Genesis 22:8 (King James Bible)
And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

ser du skillnaden?

Och mitt skäl till att använda engelska Bibelcitat är på grund av att de Biblar du hänvisar till är perverterade, medans den Bibel jag hänvisar till är Guds bevarade ord.

Och på grund av detta och säkerligen andra skäl är du helt stöpt i din New Age funderingar.

Jag återkommer med svar på det andra du undrade lite senare.

Katolska kyrkan är inte kristen heller så där görs ingen skillnad mellan korsriddare eller katoliker. De är vad vi brukar kalla för idolworshipping heathen.

Paragrafryttare? Läste du ens texten? Du undrar inte varför man gömmer undan:
Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Här har du en bild som visar vad det är man inte får göra:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False..._idolaters.jpg

Har har du en lögn.
Den korrekta texten lyder:
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

och det hela har att göra med att Jesus är Gud i köttet.

Något som du som New Age människa förnekar i texten du skriver. Så där har vi lögn nummer 1 ska jag fortsätta demolera din
hemsida och din texter eller ska du krypa tillbaka in i hålet?

Den här texten visar att du inte fattat någonting, eftersom:
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Svaret finns här:
Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

Gud proklamerar redan här att han själv kommer offra sig för människornas synder.

Du är en Bibelförnekare och en lögnare Dag, du sitter på din hemsida och försöker dissekera ordet och försöker hitta på egna
förklaringar till saker och ting medans Skriften är väldigt lätt att förstå när man är BORN AGAIN

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Sen fortsätter du med:


Ursäkta svaret finns i Bibeln men du är uppenbarligen blind eller en lögnare:
John 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Så från kapitel 5 i Johannes söker vissa av judarna att döda Jesus, dvs. Gud.
Så dina 'TÄNK OM' scenarier går inte riktigt hem. Hade Gud varit din Far hade du vetat detta men eftersom så inte är fallet och du är en lögnare precis som din far så är det lätt att man halkar in på "tänk om" scenarier. Det gjorde jag också när jag var en 10 år. Det kallas för FANTASI.

Vad rolig du var då.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:4 Nicodemus [Dag?] saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Och du Dag eftersom du inte fattat någonting så ska du här få något att klura på:

Jesus Christ is God Incarnate


"...they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US."
--MATTHEW 1:23

"...if ye believe not that I am he,
ye shall die in your sins."
--JESUS CHRIST, JOHN 8:24


Proofs from the word of God,
The Authorized King James Bible of 1611

NOT NIV, NKJV, NASB, TLB, RSV, et al--
they corrupt this precious truth.
They are part of a ghastly array of
hundreds of Satanic modern-day Bibles.
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God never changes.
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Jesus never changes.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
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God is the only Saviour.
"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isaiah 43:11
To the only wise God our Saviour... Jude 1:12
God our Saviour. Titus 2:10
...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour. I Timothy 4:10
God my Saviour. Luke 1:47

Jesus is the only Saviour.
...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14
...our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 3:18
...God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 1:1
...the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:42
...the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. Titus 1:4
a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Luke 2:11
Neither is there salvation in any other (than Jesus): for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
-Acts 4:12
...salvation... is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
-2 Timothy 2:10
...captain of their salvation [Jesus] perfect through sufferings.
-Heb 2:10
[Jesus]...author of eternal salvation...
-Heb 5:9
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God created the universe and earth by Himself.
I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself. Isaiah 44:24
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1

Jesus Christ created the universe and the earth.
[u]nto the Son he saith...Thou, LORD, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands. Hebrews 1:10
[b]y him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth...all things were created by him, and for him. Colossians 1:16
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. John 1:3
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God is the Word.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God John 1:1

Jesus is the Word.
...the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...John 1:14

God is the first and the last.
I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he. Isaiah 41:4

Jesus is the first and the last.
Jesus said, "Fear not; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:17
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God forgives sins.
[T]he Lord..forgiveth all thine iniquities... Psalm 103:2-3
"[W]ho can forgive sins but God only?" Mark 2:7

Jesus forgives sins.
Jesus...said..."Son, thy sins be forgiven thee." Mark 2:5
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God is our redeemer.
[T]hou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer.. Isaiah 63:16

Jesus redeemed us.
[T]the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ...gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity.. Titus 2:13-14
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God is one.
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. Deuteronomy 6:4

Jesus and God are one.
I and my Father are one. John 10:30
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...All things were made by him...He was in the world, and the world was made by him,
and the world knew him not...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us John 1:1, 3, 10, 14
Jesus saith...he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:9
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
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God has a Son.
[T]he LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Psalms 2:7

Jesus is God's Son.
... [Jesus] said also that God was his Father... John 5:18
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God is the Holy One
Psalms 71:22 I will also praise thee with the psaltery, even thy truth,O my God: unto thee will I sing with the harp, O thou Holy One of Israel.
Psalms 78:41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
Psalms 89:18 For the LORD is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.
Isaiah 10:20 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them;
but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
Psalms 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Messianic Psalm)

Jesus is the Holy One.
Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
3:13-14 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate,
when he was determined to let him go. But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;
13:34-35 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Only God is worshipped.
... Then saith Jesus unto him... Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Matthew 4:10

Jesus is worshipped.
While [Jesus] spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him... Matthew 9:18
And again, when [God] bringeth in the firstbegotten [Jesus] into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:6
And Thomas answered and said unto [Jesus], My Lord and my God. John 20:28
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God is Messiah.
...unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder...and his name shall be called... The mighty God, The everlasting Father... Isaiah 9:6

Jesus is Messiah.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. John 4:25-26 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------
God is from everlasting.
The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. Thy throne is established of old:
thou art from everlasting. Psalms 93:1-2

Messiah Yeshua (Jesus) is from everlasting.
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah...out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Micah 5:2
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Only God is glorified.
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another... Isaiah 42:8

God glorified Jesus.
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5
[A]ll men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. John 5:23
But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------
God is 'I am'.
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14

Jesus is 'I am'.
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58

God heals all diseases.
Bless the LORD...who healeth all thy diseases. Psalms 103:2

Jesus heals all diseases.
[Jesus] healed all that were sick. Matthew 8:16
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God is the Judge of the whole earth.
O Lord God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself. Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud. Psalms 94:1-2
[Abraham to God]...Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Genesis 18:25

Jesus is the Judge of the whole earth.
[T]he Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: John 5:22
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God has life in Himself.
[T]he Father hath life in himself; John 5:26

Jesus has life in Himself.
so hath [God] given to the Son to have life in himself;
In [Jesus] was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:4
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God raises the dead.
[T]he Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; John 5:21

Jesus raises the dead.
[T]he Son quickeneth whom he will. John 5:21
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Conclusion...

Jesus Christ is God


The scriptures bear abundant testimony that Jesus Christ is God. Some liberal preacher will say to me, "You take the Bible literally. It's just myths." I answer, "Yes, I believe the Bible 100%.
It is the word of God. If you don't believe it, Jesus is of no effect to you, ye are yet in your sins."

Här ljuger du ÅTERIGEN Dag. Precis som din far djävulen.

Här kan du lyssna på svaret din lögnare:
http://rapidshare.com/files/6952001/..._cries_out.mp3

och när du är klar med den kan du lyssna på den här:
http://rapidshare.com/files/6966193/..._to_heaven.mp3