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Ursprungligen postat av Ronaldinho
Vad finns det som talar för att Treblinka var ett transitläger?
Jag föreslår att du läser s.177-312 i Mattognos och Grafs banbrytande verk om Treblinka II om du vill ha nyanserade och väldokumenterade svar på varför det är det mest sannolika.
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Ursprungligen postat av Ronaldinho
Som sagt, bemöt de svar ni fått istället för att hävda att ni inte fått några.
Inga svar på de grundläggande frågor Blizzard tidigare i dag postade har givits.
Men du får gärna försöka svara på dem, i stället för att skräpa ner seriösa diskussionstrådar med trams.
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/t/index.html#toc
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f. The Thesis of the Transit Camp
The revisionist studies mentioned to this point have restricted themselves exclusively to refuting the official picture of Treblinka as an "extermination camp." An alternative interpretation of its function has not appeared in these studies, which of course is the direct consequence of the complete lack of contemporary documents. Yet some notable revisionist authors have proposed the thesis that Treblinka was a transit camp for Jews. The American scholar Prof. Dr. Arthur R. Butz suggested in his revisionist classic The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, which appeared for the first time in 1976, that Treblinka simultaneously served as a labor camp as well as a transit camp for Jews resettled to the east,[109] and Prof. Robert Faurisson also supports the transit camp thesis.[110]
Finally, US historian Mark Weber, together with US lawyer Andrew Allen, wrote an excellent article about Treblinka in 1992, in which the two authors summarized all the familiar arguments made to that point in time against the thesis of the 'extermination camp,' introduced new viewpoints in the field, and wrote concerning the actual nature of the camp:[111]
"If Treblinka was not an extermination center, what was it? [...] the balance of evidence indicates that Treblinka II - along with Belzec and Sobibor - was a transit camp, where Jewish deportees were stripped of their property and valuables before being transferred eastwards into German-occupied Soviet territories."
Since Treblinka was much too small to be able to accommodate the large number of Jews deported there at the same time, the transit camp thesis is, in fact, the single plausible alternative to the conventional picture of the extermination camp. Tertium non datur - no third possibility is given.---"
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"---In this section we wish to demonstrate not so much the differences in the numerical data of the various authors as the incredible superficiality and illogic of their method. Since they are all speaking not only of deportees, but of people murdered - therefore of people who are supposed to have been killed by means of exactly described techniques - the shocking method of their calculations is coupled with an astonishing lack of critical intellect, which often verges on dullness and is strikingly apparent when compared with the two isolated representatives of official historiography who have brought at least a modicum of critical thinking to this field.
In the year 1953, Gerald Reitlinger was already writing:[268]
"It would in any case have been impossible to gas the greater part of the 310,000 Jews who were deported from Warsaw, together with an unknown proportion from other ghettos, in three gas chambers, each measuring fifteen feet square, in no more than seventy-five working days."
Faced with salvaging what could be salvaged in light of this impossibility, he deduced:[268]
"Therefore a large proportion must have died in the trains."
This is likewise an untenable claim: according to the train schedule no. 548 of August 3, 1942, the trip from Warsaw to Treblinka in particular lasted only 3 hours and 55 minutes,[269] and even if the conditions in the overcrowded trains were execrable, under no circumstances could they have resulted in a mass-dying among the occupants.
In an interview granted by Jean-Claude Pressac in 1995, which was published for the first time in 2000 with changes made according his wishes, Jean-Claude Pressac proposed his own original statistics for the alleged victims of the eastern camps, in which he started fundamentally with their attested capacity for extermination:[270]
"I have attempted to determine the number of victims of the camps designated as extermination camps on the basis of material facts: the surface area of the gas chambers and number of the persons which they could hold; time for a gassing; number of gassings daily; number of transports arriving daily with consideration of the actual capacity of the chambers, etc. In comparison with the numbers of Hilberg, which are based upon Polish sources, I arrive at the following figures:
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Chemno: 80,000 to 85,000 instead of 150,000;
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Belzec: 100,000 to 150,000 instead of 550,000;
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Sobibor: 30,000 to 35,000 instead of 200,000;
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Treblinka: 200,000 to 250,000 instead of 750,000;
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Majdanek: fewer than 100,000 instead of 360,000;"[271]
If we take the lowest of his estimates, Pressac therefore reduces the total number of victims of these five 'extermination camps' (Auschwitz is not considered in the statistics) from 2,010,000 to 510,000. But the number given by him for Majdanek - the only one of these camps from which documentary data were obtained - is still more than double the actual number, for the documents reveal that in Majdanek about 42,300 (Jewish and non-Jewish) prisoners died.[272] One page later Pressac adds:
"Concerning the massacre of the Jews, several fundamental notions must be questioned. The given numbers [by official historiography] are to be thoroughly revised. The expression 'genocide' is no longer suitable."
Since Pressac does not rely upon documents, but merely upon the theoretical maximum capacity of extermination facilities, whose existence remains unproven, his numbers are of course extremely contestable, but one thing is certain: whoever speaks of a mass extermination in Treblinka - to confine ourselves here to this camp - cannot blindly accept the monstrosities claimed by the witnesses and is not released from the duty of soberly taking into consideration that, which Pressac calls "material facts." We shall return to this point in the following chapter.---"