Boxning - diskussion om kommande stormatcher

Och ang. test metodik. Så säger du emot dig själv. Du menar att det ok att nevada bestämmer om xylocoaine men inte hur dopingtester ska göras, för det vill du att Floyds farsa ska bestämma.

Jag undrar hur det hadde låtit om det var tvärtom. Manny som bestämmer hur testerna ska göras. Du hadde väll kommit med en arsenal av argument om varför det är så suspekt.

Floyds camp bestämmer inte vad som är tillåtet. Det finns bestämmelser för det.
Däremot kan de förhandla till sig bättre säkerhetsrutiner.

Har Nevada en stipulering om att weltervikts titlar ska bekämpas på 145lbs? Att miljondollar böter ska utfalla vid missad vikt? Nej.

Om Manny uppmanat om bättre tester och Floyd tackat nej hade jag absolut inte stöttat Mayweather. Jag hade tyckt det vore skamligt.

Disskusioner om tillåtna vikter och böter ingent nytt där. Däremot hur blodtester ska göras finns ingen tidigare förhandlings historia om det. Helt ny grej.
Faktum kvarstår, du tycker att nevada boxing comission är ok när det gäller xylocaine men inte när det gäller doping tester

Med ditt argument om att allting är förhandlingsbart mellan boxings parterna är farligt. Tror det sportsliga kan bli lidande av det. Grundregler måste finnas som alla kan acceptera och följa.

Säger du det. Då måste du tycka att det är skamligt att gammla champs som har åkt dit på dopingtester. Som tex. James Toney Nandrolone (som du och sam-jones beundrar), Roy Jones Androstenedione, Shane Mosley EPO, Legendaren Pernell "Sweat Pea" Whitaker Kokain, Vitali Klitschko diverse AAS (erkände i sin bok)Francois Botha nandrolone, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr Furosemide etc etc listan kan göras lång.
Men en snabb blick på lite olika trådar om boxare här på FB, så finns det ingen antyden om tex "fuskaren" Toney som skamlig från din sida (eller några av de andra boxarna nämnda) snarare tvärtom.

Nej tyvärr, jag köper inte din "objektivitet."

Is “Xyloclaine” the most ridiculous malicious rumour ever concocted on a forum?

You know, it’s not even very well done.


As background, the examiner isn’t a legit site. It’s a hosting site for fan blogs. The article is very amateurish (lots of Mayweather is a ducker, a coward, mixed in with wild accusations) and it’s easy about as dumb as it gets. Well, if you have ever been to a boxing gym.

Firstly, scratching the surface, it’s actually legal in most states. I think it’s only illegal in about 7. No state that hosts any sort of contact sport regularly has it banned. As pain killing injections are important in the treatment of injuries. What’s more, the states the writer says it is banned in – it’s not actually “banned” as in on a PED list. It’s banned, as in you’re literally not allowed to buy it, as the state hasn’t deemed it safe for use.

You know “banned in 49 states”, I’m not sure if that bit has been added on for affect by other plotters, but it’s plainly false.

Secondly, you can tell an amateurish smear effort, by the fact that they don’t even realise that Mayweather has fought all over the place since 2002 when he made the video (ironically for a HBO documentary on hand injuries, and how they are treated in sport).

He’s fought in 7 different states since thevideo. Oregon, California, Miami, Michigan, New York, New Jersey being some of them. He’s actually fought in more different states than Pacquiao!? He’s only actually fought in Nevada 10 times in his entire career in fact.

Thirdly, if you actually box, or play football at a decent level, you’ll laugh at this. It’s a real weak claim. The guys knowledge of boxing must just extend to having a picture of Manny on their wall. It’s a claim that has and has no respect for the sport.

Xyloclaine, Cortisone, and other pain killing injections are used legally in most boxing gyms. I have been lucky enough to play both college football, and box professionally for a couple of years. I’ve taken pain killing injections in both, fully legally, in most states.

Treatment of injury or ailment is not performance enhancing. If athletes couldn’t numb injured limbs then sport would fall apart. It’s nothing to do with fighting. It’s just to allow you to train through injuries, and to allow people with birth defects like that to compete at an even level. I guarantee Pacquiao doesn’t feel any pain whatsoever in any punch he throws. So, if you get a lot of hand injuries, of course you take pain killing injections.

You know, seriously, you could hit a tree 300 times with a boxing glove. You wouldn’t feel it. Especially with in ring adrenaline. The theory that Manny Pacquiaos punching power is based on the fact that he holds back as punching hurts him, is both ridiculous, hilarious and humiliating.

Gloves are designed to protect the hands as much as they are the face. They numb pain themselves. They are the original “number”. All the drugs suggested do is allow people born with hand problems to compete at the same level.

Finally, this is rather a malicious campaign. Not a news story. The guy who wrote it also posted 152 questions on the subject, with a link, to “Yahoo questions”. 152………I

They also posted several videos on the subject to Youtube, with links to his article. And his cronies have been flooding message boards with links to it. On the principle that those are the only sites that will take such stupidity I assume

The only real truths to the article are the fact that Mayweather used a legal pain killer in 2002 (when he discussed it in an documentary)interview about hand injuries on HBO.

I’m supposing the follow up article will be “Tennis Player uses legal cough medicine shocker. Not going into a bout bunged up is a Performance Enhancer”.

The only true aspects of the story are that Mayweather used a legal pain killer in 2002.

The made up bits are that it’s “banned in 49 states” – it’s banned in about 5, and only for medical reasons. Not “banned” as in on a PE drugs list. Banned, as in, you can buy it in a chemist in Oregon, but not errrr, Kansas. Some states deem it dangerous, as treating joint injuries with pain killing injections – you are really risking disability in the area.

Floyd has also fought in 7 different states states the video was made since 2002. More than Pacquiao. What’s more, it isn’t even illegal in Texas. Think that was another odd claim.

Seriously. I like watching Manny, but I find his fans hard work. They tend to flood decent boards with malicious intent. Most of which is usually at least 50% made up.

You know, pulling out of the biggest fight ever, over drug testing, is what it is. Of course people will be suspicious. If a MLB slugger said he wouldn’t take Olympic random testing, people would think that he is on something.

You know, I’d suggest that “Mayweather uses legal pain killer, that’s legal almost anywhere, and used widely in most MMA and boxing gyms, as wells as pro football”. You know, if I ever write that book about dumb amateur boxing “pundits”, this will be on the first page.