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2019-01-01, 19:29
  #1
Medlem
Skogismyras avatar
Läs nu detta noggrant, för detta är Sanningen.
Seriöst. Detta är Alltets Ultimata Sanning.
Inom detta ryms all religion, all filosofi, all vetenskap, alla dina tankar o.s.v., alla materiella objekt du ser (inklusive din kropp), ja allt i hela universum och multiversum.
Och ni kan inte komma ifrån det faktumet.
Detta överskrider livstider.

"Consciousness alone is.
All else is an appearance arising within it. Including all thoughts of there being a separate entity called “I", or you, or even the rest of the entire "outside" world.

All is consciousness. All is within. Not within “me”, but within consciousness itself, in which this avatar I call “myself" is nothing but an apparent appearance.

Everything appearing within consciousness is nothing but a dream, which is every possible thing experienced, sensed, perceived, believed, or known.

There is nothing that could exist "outside" of this all-pervading consciousness that is all that you know.
There is only consciousness, which is the totality of this “awakeness” you and I both feel, which we can only express as "I Am".

I Am, and I know that I Am—this I am certain. “I" exist. Not “me" the person, not me the so-called personality, but this aware presence that I seem to be.

My I Am-ness alone is real, nothing else is. Everything else is nothing but an unreal thought-object appearing within it.

This consciousness that I Am is all-pervading. It is omnipresent and omniscient. It is Absolute Reality. It is all I ever know since this “I” that I am is consciousness itself.

I Am That. I Am.

There is no personal me, as that is nothing but an illusion arising within the totality of the purity which is this unadorned presence of I Am.
When I think of myself as separate, I seem to be. But, when I know myself as impersonal, selfless Beingness, I realize that my I Am-ness is universal, interdependent, and co-arising with the totality of the whole.

There is no person to protect or defend. There is no separate individual called me who needs this or that to feel one way or another. There is nothing to avoid or resist. There is nothing to desire, as there is no sense of lack. For what could consciousness need? All such nonsense is nothing but an egoic illusion which only appears real when its apparent existence is believed in by the desperately seeking mind.

Drop all pretence. Drop all assumptions. Disbelieve every previously accepted belief. See through the fallacy of your conditioning. You are not what you have been taught ever since you were a child.

A lie believed seems real. Whereas, a lie seen through, with absolute clarity, is realized as being entirely nonexistent, right from the start.

Once you realize the mirage of your separate human-hood to be the illusion it truly is, its false image can no longer deceive you.
Consciousness is the only power, so to speak. There are no other forces at play. There is nothing else, as even the universe as we know it exists as nothing but an apparent appearance of phenomena within it. Therefore, there are no separate good or evil powers. There is no "thing" right, and there is no "thing" wrong. How could the only thing that “is” be a mistake? Consciousness is the absolute totality! Everything arising within it is just a part of its cosmic play.

Nothing is at it appears. Nothing is as it seems.

When one knows this through a direct experience of awakened realization, you will just leave the world alone. It will no longer serve you, as you are aware that the world (and others) don’t exist as they're perceived. You no longer feel the pull of the world's temptations, or its drama, or its seemingly divisive nature, or of its apparent human comedy and tragedy.

All duality is imagined.

Any sense of separation or individuality is nothing but a thought arising with the total emptiness of consciousness, in which all is but an illusory movement of mind.
There is only unicity, despite all apparent multiplicity and diversity. There is only One—and that is Consciousness—otherwise known as your Self. There is only this one Self, which is this sense of I Am arising within the untold billions of all apparent sentient beings. There is only One who is truly Being, and that One, is Consciousness.

The world has given many names to this non-dual Nothingness that is the Absolute, but the "word" is never the reality. So drop all such words, as they only serve to distract from That which is here and now. Empty yourself of conditioned beliefs. Just Be.

There is nothing to do. There is nothing to be or become. Just Be—completely empty—empty of belief. When you allow yourself to be empty, the fullness and beauty of the Absolute Reality will permeate you with the bliss of true Knowing.

Consciousness alone is.

There is nothing but That—and this I Am-ness that I know I am, is That.
I Am That!"

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"We are so engrossed with the objects or appearances revealed by the light, that we pay no attention to the light. In the waking or dream state in which things appear, and in the sleep state in which we see nothing, there is always the light of Consciousness or Self, like the hall lamp which is always burning. The thing to do is to concentrate on the seer and not on the seen, not on the objects, but on the Light which reveals them."
~ Sri Ramana Maharshi

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"For the truth of the conclusions of physical science, observation is the supreme Court of Appeal.”
~ Arthur Eddington
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Senast redigerad av Skogismyra 2019-01-01 kl. 19:54.
Citera
2019-01-01, 19:47
  #2
Bannlyst
Okej. Vad ska människan göra då? Lägga sig ner och sova bort livet?
Citera
2019-01-01, 19:49
  #3
Medlem
Skogismyras avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av a987
Okej. Vad ska människan göra då? Lägga sig ner och sova bort livet?
Sträva efter andlig upplysning.

"Whatever precious jewel there is in the heavenly worlds, there is nothing comparable to one who is Awakened."
- Buddha
Citera
2019-01-01, 19:56
  #4
Bannlyst
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Skogismyra
Sträva efter andlig upplysning.

"Whatever precious jewel there is in the heavenly worlds, there is nothing comparable to one who is Awakened."
- Buddha

Vad är andlig upplysning? Att förstå att "There is nothing to do. There is nothing to be or become."? Eller vad?
Citera
2019-01-01, 19:59
  #5
Medlem
Skogismyras avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av a987
Vad är andlig upplysning? Att förstå att "There is nothing to do. There is nothing to be or become."? Eller vad?
Ta själv reda på vad andlig upplysning är för något.
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Xuno
Filosofi --> Tripp-& rusrapporter
Nej.
Detta har absolut inget att göra med droger.
Citera
2019-01-01, 20:07
  #6
Medlem
Struntprat, du behöver studera lite hardcore filosofi för att få struktur på dina tankar
Essential Philosophy" - By Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eGGGwrXKUI
Citera
2019-01-01, 20:09
  #7
Medlem
MartinJeeps avatar
Trots att det var enligt dig var sanningen om allt så orkade du inte ens översätta det.
Citera
2019-01-01, 20:30
  #8
Medlem
Oreokalles avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Evilius
Struntprat, du behöver studera lite hardcore filosofi för att få struktur på dina tankar
Essential Philosophy" - By Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eGGGwrXKUI

Det mesta som tuggas om och om igen har bl a Schopenhauer och Platons grotta som grund. Även de inspirerades av tidigare filosofer. Det man faktiskt kan konstatera, är att livet både utifrån modern vetenskaps omfång, logiken och vår förmåga att begripa är att allt egentligen är orimligt och omöjligt.
Citera
2019-01-01, 21:34
  #9
Medlem
Dags att kliva av din höga häst tycker jag. Du (och många andra) förpestar forumet med alla era papegoj-kommentarer 24/7. Vi fattar. Du har funnit "sanningen", så kul för dig. Acceptera att andra har sina egna sanningar, och att din sanning omöjligt kan vara bevisbar, ens om du har en extremt verklig upplevelse kan du aldrig veta med hundra procents säkerhet att det är på riktigt. Jag har min egen övertygelse, och den är inte helt olik din även om det finns avgörande olikheter, men jag håller inte på och spammar sönder filosofiforumet för det. Du är inte annorlunda från kristna missionärer som Jehovas Vittnen som stör folk genom att plinga på deras dörrar och vägrar ta ett "nej". Skapa din youtube-kanal eller skapa en blogg och sprid din övertygelse där istället. Alternativt bara skapa EN tråd och ta allt där.

Det bästa sättet att få gehör är att bara finnas, och sedan får sökande människor själva finna dig. Tyvärr är det många därute som bara vill ha prenumeranter (subscribers) och mjölka dem på pengar, eller bara få en rejäl egoboost. Rätt kul hur alla dessa "upplysta" människor som konstant pratar om egodöd och finna sitt sanna högre själv, tenderar att ha en bild på sitt nylle som thumbnail på nästan varenda video de skiter ur sig. Dessa personer lär inte ha gjort av sig med sina egon precis.

Ett tips till TS: du kommer väldigt långt med ödmjukhet. Att prata om "sanningen" hit och dit får dig bara att framstå som arrogant, galen eller indoktrinerad. Jag är helt övertygad om vissa saker, men jag far inte omkring och hävdar att jag VET ditten eller datten.
Citera
2019-01-01, 21:42
  #10
Medlem
Skogismyras avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Oreokalle
Det mesta som tuggas om och om igen har bl a Schopenhauer och Platons grotta som grund. Även de inspirerades av tidigare filosofer. Det man faktiskt kan konstatera, är att livet både utifrån modern vetenskaps omfång, logiken och vår förmåga att begripa är att allt egentligen är orimligt och omöjligt.
"From every sentence deep original and sublime thoughts arise, and a high and holy and earnest spirit pervades the whole. In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and so elevating as that of the Upanishads… It has been the solace of my life; and it will be the solace of my death. They are the product of the highest wisdom..."
- Arthur Schopenhauer

"Access to the Vedas is the greatest privilege this century may claim over all previous centuries. How entirely does the Upanishad breathe throughout the holy spirit of the Vedas! How is every one, who, by a diligent study of its Persian Latin has become familiar with that incomparable book, stirred by that spirit to the very depth of his Soul!"
- Arthur Schopenhauer

"There is no kind of framework within which we can find consciousness in the plural; this is simply something we construct because of the temporal plurality of individuals, but it is a false construction....The only solution to this conflict insofar as any is available to us at all lies in the ancient wisdom of the Upanishad."
- Erwin Schrödinger

Advaita Vedanta kommer från Upanishaderna. Och Advaita Vedanta är samma sak som trådstarten (nonduality.)

https://youtu.be/goNIy6RDfX8 "The Ultimate Truth by Swami Sarvapriyananda" (Advaita Vedanta. Som ju härstammar ur samma skrifter som Arthur Schopenhauer lovprisade.)
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Senast redigerad av Skogismyra 2019-01-01 kl. 22:33.
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2019-01-02, 15:54
  #11
Medlem
proconsuls avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Skogismyra
Läs nu detta noggrant, för detta är Sanningen.
Seriöst. Detta är Alltets Ultimata Sanning.
Inom detta ryms all religion, all filosofi, all vetenskap, alla dina tankar o.s.v., alla materiella objekt du ser (inklusive din kropp), ja allt i hela universum och multiversum.
Och ni kan inte komma ifrån det faktumet.
Detta överskrider livstider.

"Consciousness alone is.
All else is an appearance arising within it. Including all thoughts of there being a separate entity called “I", or you, or even the rest of the entire "outside" world.

All is consciousness. All is within. Not within “me”, but within consciousness itself, in which this avatar I call “myself" is nothing but an apparent appearance.

Everything appearing within consciousness is nothing but a dream, which is every possible thing experienced, sensed, perceived, believed, or known.

There is nothing that could exist "outside" of this all-pervading consciousness that is all that you know.
There is only consciousness, which is the totality of this “awakeness” you and I both feel, which we can only express as "I Am".

I Am, and I know that I Am—this I am certain. “I" exist. Not “me" the person, not me the so-called personality, but this aware presence that I seem to be.

My I Am-ness alone is real, nothing else is. Everything else is nothing but an unreal thought-object appearing within it.

This consciousness that I Am is all-pervading. It is omnipresent and omniscient. It is Absolute Reality. It is all I ever know since this “I” that I am is consciousness itself.

I Am That. I Am.

There is no personal me, as that is nothing but an illusion arising within the totality of the purity which is this unadorned presence of I Am.
When I think of myself as separate, I seem to be. But, when I know myself as impersonal, selfless Beingness, I realize that my I Am-ness is universal, interdependent, and co-arising with the totality of the whole.

There is no person to protect or defend. There is no separate individual called me who needs this or that to feel one way or another. There is nothing to avoid or resist. There is nothing to desire, as there is no sense of lack. For what could consciousness need? All such nonsense is nothing but an egoic illusion which only appears real when its apparent existence is believed in by the desperately seeking mind.

Drop all pretence. Drop all assumptions. Disbelieve every previously accepted belief. See through the fallacy of your conditioning. You are not what you have been taught ever since you were a child.

A lie believed seems real. Whereas, a lie seen through, with absolute clarity, is realized as being entirely nonexistent, right from the start.

Once you realize the mirage of your separate human-hood to be the illusion it truly is, its false image can no longer deceive you.
Consciousness is the only power, so to speak. There are no other forces at play. There is nothing else, as even the universe as we know it exists as nothing but an apparent appearance of phenomena within it. Therefore, there are no separate good or evil powers. There is no "thing" right, and there is no "thing" wrong. How could the only thing that “is” be a mistake? Consciousness is the absolute totality! Everything arising within it is just a part of its cosmic play.

Nothing is at it appears. Nothing is as it seems.

When one knows this through a direct experience of awakened realization, you will just leave the world alone. It will no longer serve you, as you are aware that the world (and others) don’t exist as they're perceived. You no longer feel the pull of the world's temptations, or its drama, or its seemingly divisive nature, or of its apparent human comedy and tragedy.

All duality is imagined.

Any sense of separation or individuality is nothing but a thought arising with the total emptiness of consciousness, in which all is but an illusory movement of mind.
There is only unicity, despite all apparent multiplicity and diversity. There is only One—and that is Consciousness—otherwise known as your Self. There is only this one Self, which is this sense of I Am arising within the untold billions of all apparent sentient beings. There is only One who is truly Being, and that One, is Consciousness.

The world has given many names to this non-dual Nothingness that is the Absolute, but the "word" is never the reality. So drop all such words, as they only serve to distract from That which is here and now. Empty yourself of conditioned beliefs. Just Be.

There is nothing to do. There is nothing to be or become. Just Be—completely empty—empty of belief. When you allow yourself to be empty, the fullness and beauty of the Absolute Reality will permeate you with the bliss of true Knowing.

Consciousness alone is.

There is nothing but That—and this I Am-ness that I know I am, is That.
I Am That!"

------------------------

"We are so engrossed with the objects or appearances revealed by the light, that we pay no attention to the light. In the waking or dream state in which things appear, and in the sleep state in which we see nothing, there is always the light of Consciousness or Self, like the hall lamp which is always burning. The thing to do is to concentrate on the seer and not on the seen, not on the objects, but on the Light which reveals them."
~ Sri Ramana Maharshi

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"For the truth of the conclusions of physical science, observation is the supreme Court of Appeal.”
~ Arthur Eddington

Vad vill du diskutera?
Citera
2019-01-02, 16:11
  #12
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av proconsul
Vad vill du diskutera?
Jag har redan ifrågasatt tråden men moderatorerna tog inte bort den däremot tog smartskallarna bort mina inlägg..
Indiska gamla Mystiker är riktiga filosofer här på FB...
~ Sri Ramana Maharshi for president
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