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Här är hela ditt inlägg:
Ursprungligen postat av BlizzardKing
Med all respekt, men nu är jag säker på att du inte har läst länken, och har du det så har du inte förstått vad den handlar om!
Ty ditt svar har ingenting med mitt inlägg att göra eftersom det handlar om firefighters, brandsoldater alltså, och DERAS kommunikation med ledningscentralen. Och detta band har, bl.a. dom anhöriga, fått skriva på tysthetslöften för att få höra! Det är enligt min mening samma sak som att "lägga locket på"!
Ty ditt svar har ingenting med mitt inlägg att göra eftersom det handlar om firefighters, brandsoldater alltså, och DERAS kommunikation med ledningscentralen. Och detta band har, bl.a. dom anhöriga, fått skriva på tysthetslöften för att få höra! Det är enligt min mening samma sak som att "lägga locket på"!
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Jag ser tre meningar i den som kommer från dig, varav inga ger uttryck för några ståndpunkter. Jag ser två frågor som alltså bygger på felaktiga slutsatser, nämligen att "information" "undanhållits". Svaret är alltså att information inte undanhålltis. Det tog mindre än ett år innan bandet offentligjordes i sin helhet. Om du vill leda i bevis att det är en onormalt lång tid och samtidigt förklara hur en konspiration som uppenbarligen är kapabel att i hemlighet installera nyutvecklad fjärrkontrollsteknik i civila flygplan, transportera och plantera tonvis med flygplansskrot till en brottsplats, förfalska foton och vittnesuppgifter bland annat, missar något så enkelt som en vanlig hemligstämpel (tillgänglig i vad jag vet för minst 50 år), så varsågod. Men för det krävs mer än dina tre rader.
Känner Stanley Hilton till detta månne? 
Varför undanhålls information för allmänheten och speciellt för dom som miste nära och kära? Eller är det bara en lögn?
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http://www.rense.com/general28/FEDswithholdcrucial.htm
The New York Times recently revealed the existence of the tape of radio transmissions between firefighters of the New York Fire Department (NYFD), which proves that ìat least two menî had reached the 78th floor Sky Lobby of the South Tower. The firefighters had reported about the fires and casualties they encountered and begun evacuating the survivors.
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The voices of the firefighters "showed no panic, no sense that events were racing beyond their control," the Times wrote. "At that point, the building would be standing for just a few more minutes, as the fire was weakening the structure on the floors above him. Even so, Chief Palmer could see only two pockets of fire, and called for a pair of engine companies to fight them."
"I didn't hear fear, I didn't hear panic," Palmer's widow said. "When the tape is made public to the world, people will hear that they all went about their jobs without fear, and selflessly."
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In January or February, the PA offered a copy of the tape to NYFD officials, who reportedly declined the offer because they did not want to sign the confidentiality agreement as demanded by the PA. The Independent (UK) added that the PA 'held back from sharing it with police and only relinquished it on condition that a confidentiality agreement was signed.'
"That's not correct," Trevor told AFP regarding the allegation that the PA had withheld the tape from the police. The PA had only handled the tape "under the instruction of the U.S. Attorney's office," he said.
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Despite the fact that the contents of the tape are being kept secret, the Times article says, "Only now, nearly a year after the attacks, are the efforts of Chief Palmer, Mr. Bucca and others becoming public. City fire officials simply delayed listening to a 78-minute tape that is the only known recording of firefighters inside the towers."
While Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta said he had not known the tape existed until 'very recently', both the Times and CNN err in claiming that the NYFD is the agency behind the extreme secrecy. "The Fire Department has forbidden anyone to discuss the contents publicly on the ground that the tape might be evidence in the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the man accused of plotting with the hijackers," the Times said.
When AFP asked the NYFD why the only conversations between firefighters engaged at the scene of the crash had to be kept secret because of Zacarias Moussaoui, who was in prison in Minnesota at the time, the spokesman replied, "Take it up with the Dept. of Justice."
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The voices of the firefighters "showed no panic, no sense that events were racing beyond their control," the Times wrote. "At that point, the building would be standing for just a few more minutes, as the fire was weakening the structure on the floors above him. Even so, Chief Palmer could see only two pockets of fire, and called for a pair of engine companies to fight them."
"I didn't hear fear, I didn't hear panic," Palmer's widow said. "When the tape is made public to the world, people will hear that they all went about their jobs without fear, and selflessly."
[...]
In January or February, the PA offered a copy of the tape to NYFD officials, who reportedly declined the offer because they did not want to sign the confidentiality agreement as demanded by the PA. The Independent (UK) added that the PA 'held back from sharing it with police and only relinquished it on condition that a confidentiality agreement was signed.'
"That's not correct," Trevor told AFP regarding the allegation that the PA had withheld the tape from the police. The PA had only handled the tape "under the instruction of the U.S. Attorney's office," he said.
[...]
Despite the fact that the contents of the tape are being kept secret, the Times article says, "Only now, nearly a year after the attacks, are the efforts of Chief Palmer, Mr. Bucca and others becoming public. City fire officials simply delayed listening to a 78-minute tape that is the only known recording of firefighters inside the towers."
While Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta said he had not known the tape existed until 'very recently', both the Times and CNN err in claiming that the NYFD is the agency behind the extreme secrecy. "The Fire Department has forbidden anyone to discuss the contents publicly on the ground that the tape might be evidence in the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the man accused of plotting with the hijackers," the Times said.
When AFP asked the NYFD why the only conversations between firefighters engaged at the scene of the crash had to be kept secret because of Zacarias Moussaoui, who was in prison in Minnesota at the time, the spokesman replied, "Take it up with the Dept. of Justice."
Varför undanhålls information för allmänheten och speciellt för dom som miste nära och kära? Eller är det bara en lögn?
/KT
