2014-04-23, 18:35
  #1405
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Rättvisepartiet Socialisterna skriver om kurderna.



Syrien i omvärldens våld

"4. Kurdiska segrar mot ISIL befäster lokala självstyren, men utmanar även grannstaterna. Enligt nyhetssidan kurdnet har den kurdiska självförsvarsstyrkan YPG, som på svenska betyder Folkets skyddsenheter, sedan den 10 april utkämpat hårda men segerrika strider mot ISIL i staden Kobani, en av tre kantoner inom det självstyrande Rojava (Västra Kurdistan), som utropades i december 2013 i nordöstra Syrien. YPG-chefen utpekar såväl regeringarna i Syrien och Iran som Turkiet som delaktiga i att stödja ISIL:s attack, i syfte att splittra upp och underkuva det område som omfattas av de lokala självstyren som har etablerats av de syriska kurderna, under ledning av det PKK närstående syriska PYD (Folkets demokratiska union). Hemliga möten sägs också ha ägt rum om självstyret i Rojava mellan Turkiet och Iran, som båda oroas av ett exempel som kan spridas till deras egna kurdiska områden.
Samtidigt kritiseras såväl den syriska oppositionen som det rivaliserande KDP-styret i den kurdiska regionen i norra Irak för att ogilla det ”system av demokratisk autonomi” som har utvecklats av de syriska kurderna. KDP anklagas till och med för att delta tillsammans med Turkiet i ett försök att isolera och strypa Rojava genom handelsembargo och grävda diken.
Det tydligaste mönstret i detta är uppenbarligen att Syrien efter tre års uppror alltmer splittras upp i regioner, samtidigt som ingen part förmår att ta makten i hela landet."


"Endast en opposition som sätter arbetarnas och de fattigas klassintressen av demokratiska och sociala nyckelkrav, inklusive nationell självbestämmanderätt för kurderna, framför alla religiösa och etniska särintressen, som står fri från alla inblandade imperialistiska intressen kan erbjuda en utväg, hur avlägset ett sådant alternativ än kan tyckas för stunden.
Ett sådant alternativ måste med nödvändighet vara både demokratiskt, socialistiskt, revolutionärt och internationalistiskt."


http://offensiv.socialisterna.org/sv...ionellt/10562/
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2014-04-23, 18:49
  #1406
Bannlyst
Intressant läsning om Iran och kurderna!

What are the Differences Between Teymur Bakhtiar and PJAK’s leadership of Iran?

"Those who care about Iran's future must understand the differences between tribal leadership and PJAK's leadership as taught by Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan."

"General Teymur Bakhtiar of Lur fought other Iranians feverishly to gain power in Iran during the era of Mohammad Reza, Shah of Iran era. Soon after losing power, he became a refugee in Iraq, but while in exile he called on Iranian leaders, one of whom was Hussein Beg Jwanro-Kermanshah from the Kurdish Jaff tribe, to help him defeat the Shah of Iran. He told him in his letter that the Lurs were Kurds too, and that both tribes needed to be united in order to overthrow Mohammad Reza Shah's government. He wrote that Shah of Iran is dictator and against none Persian people of Iran."


"When the Shah of Iran's intelligence services got hold of that letter, the Shah became afraid of the prospect of the united Kurd and Lur tribes, so he prepared and planned General Teymur Bakhtiar's assassination personally before the general could unite both tribes of Iran. When he succeeded he diffused the dangers his kingdom faced from the unification of both tribes."

"But none of these measures have diverted the true Aryan people of Iran from their struggle for freedom from the darkest forms of oppression. Today, in the spirit of Teymour and Shapur Bakhtiar, Bibi Koakab, Dr Mohammed Mossadegh and General Mohsen Rezaee, PJAK, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan, is leading not just a few tribes but all of the people of Iran to fight for liberation under the teachings of Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan. In time they will unite the majority of the Iranian people from Balochistan to Gilan and from Kermanshah to Khorasan with one thing in mind -- the liberation of the Iranian people for good."

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Wha...40418-410.html
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2014-04-23, 19:05
  #1407
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Kurdiska MC gänget Median Empire MC är i Kurdistan och hjälper.

Meet the Kurdish Motorcycle Gang Helping Syrian Refugees in Iraq


"Azad and two other members of the Median Empire were in the autonomous Kurdish region in Iraq on an aid mission. The men, all of Kurdish descent and living in Germany, said they felt a duty to give back. “It’s our families, it’s our brothers and sisters,” said Fat Joe, the Median Empire’s Sargent at Arms. “We’re here in a better place so we try to give them a better situation, because we know the feelings, what they’re feeling right now.”

As Azad tells it, the members of Median Empire decided it was their turn to give back. Funding the trip through membership dues and private donations, the members arrived shortly before the Newroz festival, which celebrates the Kurdish New Year, and spent three weeks touring the region and visiting the refugee camp. They also paid a visit to the Qandil mountains, a frequent site of Turkish air force bombings and the home base of the Kurdish militant separatist group known as the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).

In Kurdistan, the Median Empire spent most of its time at Camp Arbat, a refugee camp just outside the city of Sulaymaniyah located close to the border with Iran. Camp Arbat is home to about 3,500 Syrian refugees, many from the city of Qamishli. All have fled deteriorating economic conditions and violent confrontations with jihadi factions.

The Median Empire members focused primarily on providing medical care — and even brought a number of local doctors with them to the camp. They also provided funding for teachers for the next few months, and decided to sponsor two young girls who were orphaned after their parents were killed by jihadis in Syria, according to Fat Joe. “It had a big effect on us. We can help as much as we can, but it’s still not enough,” he said."

https://news.vice.com/articles/meet-...mepage-feature
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2014-04-23, 19:56
  #1408
Medlem
bernad_laws avatar
Denna tråd kommer INTE att tramsas sönder i en OT-kukmätartävling mellan pro-/antikurder. Alla försök därtill = Varning //Mod
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2014-04-23, 20:13
  #1409
Medlem
[quote=riverfish|48499379]Intressant läsning om Iran och kurderna!

What are the Differences Between Teymur Bakhtiar and PJAK’s leadership of Iran?

"Those who care about Iran's future must understand the differences between tribal leadership and PJAK's leadership as taught by Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan."

"General Teymur Bakhtiar of Lur fought other Iranians feverishly to gain power in Iran during the era of Mohammad Reza, Shah of Iran era. Soon after losing power, he became a refugee in Iraq, but while in exile he called on Iranian leaders, one of whom was Hussein Beg Jwanro-Kermanshah from the Kurdish Jaff tribe, to help him defeat the Shah of Iran. He told him in his letter that the Lurs were Kurds too, and that both tribes needed to be united in order to overthrow Mohammad Reza Shah's government. He wrote that Shah of Iran is dictator and against none Persian people of Iran."


"When the Shah of Iran's intelligence services got hold of that letter, the Shah became afraid of the prospect of the united Kurd and Lur tribes, so he prepared and planned General Teymur Bakhtiar's assassination personally before the general could unite both tribes of Iran. When he succeeded he diffused the dangers his kingdom faced from the unification of both tribes."

"But none of these measures have diverted the true Aryan people of Iran from their struggle for freedom from the darkest forms of oppression. Today, in the spirit of Teymour and Shapur Bakhtiar, Bibi Koakab, Dr Mohammed Mossadegh and General Mohsen Rezaee, PJAK, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan, is leading not just a few tribes but all of the people of Iran to fight for liberation under the teachings of Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan. In time they will unite the majority of the Iranian people from Balochistan to Gilan and from Kermanshah to Khorasan with one thing in mind -- the liberation of the Iranian people for good."

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Wha...40418-410.html[

Med andra ord är PJAKS ideologi pan-iranism?
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2014-04-23, 20:21
  #1410
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Ursprungligen postat av riverfish
Intressant läsning om Iran och kurderna!

What are the Differences Between Teymur Bakhtiar and PJAK’s leadership of Iran?

"Those who care about Iran's future must understand the differences between tribal leadership and PJAK's leadership as taught by Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan."

"General Teymur Bakhtiar of Lur fought other Iranians feverishly to gain power in Iran during the era of Mohammad Reza, Shah of Iran era. Soon after losing power, he became a refugee in Iraq, but while in exile he called on Iranian leaders, one of whom was Hussein Beg Jwanro-Kermanshah from the Kurdish Jaff tribe, to help him defeat the Shah of Iran. He told him in his letter that the Lurs were Kurds too, and that both tribes needed to be united in order to overthrow Mohammad Reza Shah's government. He wrote that Shah of Iran is dictator and against none Persian people of Iran."


"When the Shah of Iran's intelligence services got hold of that letter, the Shah became afraid of the prospect of the united Kurd and Lur tribes, so he prepared and planned General Teymur Bakhtiar's assassination personally before the general could unite both tribes of Iran. When he succeeded he diffused the dangers his kingdom faced from the unification of both tribes."

"But none of these measures have diverted the true Aryan people of Iran from their struggle for freedom from the darkest forms of oppression. Today, in the spirit of Teymour and Shapur Bakhtiar, Bibi Koakab, Dr Mohammed Mossadegh and General Mohsen Rezaee, PJAK, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan, is leading not just a few tribes but all of the people of Iran to fight for liberation under the teachings of Kurdish leader Abdullah Ocalan. In time they will unite the majority of the Iranian people from Balochistan to Gilan and from Kermanshah to Khorasan with one thing in mind -- the liberation of the Iranian people for good."

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Wha...40418-410.html[

Med andra ord är PJAKS ideologi pan-iranism?

Fasiken de står ju att man ska ena alla kurder och arier och att de alltid har varit emot Medierna men klanerna har inte lyckats att stå emot dessa krafter. Shahen och nurvarande muslimska regim har försökt separera alla arier som tillhör Iran, men detta betyder inte att alla ska ingå i samma land men att de har rätten att kämpa för sitt folk som betyder att de vill ha ett eget land. Men de känsligt för i Iran är många förblindade av eliten som nu.. Folk från Iran som flydde landet håller med regimen? Ser du inte att de är känsligt som satan. Hela familjer blir mördade och nergrävda, bara för att väst inte är intresserade av befolkningen i Iran då de har egna intressen betyder inte att allt är frid och fröjd. Alla har rätt till eget land i Iran då eliten gynnar bara sig själva och förtrycker majoriteten.
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2014-04-23, 20:53
  #1411
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Turkiet gjorde inget för att förbättra kurdernas rättigheter och vapenvilan mellan turkarna-PKK håller på att dö ut. Under de turkiska valet 2014 fick kurdiska BDP bra resultat men turkarna begick valfusk.

BDP är de turkos färgade: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yerel-secim-2014/

PKK's chief executive member: The Turkish-Kurdish peace process is reaching a dead end

QANDIL,— Zeki Shengali: There has been dialogue but we have not yet turned it into negotiations. We took every single agreed step toward a peaceful settlement; we declared a ceasefire, we started pulling out our troops, our prisoners ceased their hunger strike and we released theirs … Turkey did not lift a finger for the peaceful settlement when it was in a strong position so, given its current weakness, it's unlikely it will. Ankara has been trying to gain time through words, and not tangible moves, so we believe the process is reaching a dead end.

Still, the Turkish public opinion wants a settlement to the conflict so the People's Democratic Party (HDP) - which has parallels with the pro-Kurdish Peace and Democracy Party (BDP) - has a unique chance to build bridges between the people. Society wants peace while the government sticks to war against the Kurds, and not only in Turkey. Ankara keeps backing groups linked to al Qaeda in Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan - the ed.) and imposing an embargo on them as a means to evacuate the whole Kurdish population in Syria, to empty the area.


http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles...turkey4998.htm
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2014-04-25, 15:26
  #1412
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PDK-T startar i Turkiet men saknar stöd från KRG? De går emot BDP's politik och vill ha ett självständigt Kurdistan.


New Party Name Breaks ‘Kurdistan’ Taboo in Turkey
http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/turkey/25042014

"The aim of the party is to create an independent state for Turkey’s estimated 15 million Kurds in the country’s southeastern Kurdish regions, with Diyarbakir as its capital, a flag and its own national anthem, “Ey Raqib.”

Currently PDK-T gets no support from anyone. But Kardas stressed that he hoped the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) would support the new party in future.

Other Kurdish parties in Turkey, like the Peace and Democracy Party (BDP), officially stand for autonomy within Turkey, not independence."


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2014-04-25, 15:31
  #1413
Medlem
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PDK-T startar i Turkiet men saknar stöd från KRG? De går emot BDP's politik och vill ha ett självständigt Kurdistan.


New Party Name Breaks ‘Kurdistan’ Taboo in Turkey
http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/turkey/25042014

"The aim of the party is to create an independent state for Turkey’s estimated 15 million Kurds in the country’s southeastern Kurdish regions, with Diyarbakir as its capital, a flag and its own national anthem, “Ey Raqib.”

Currently PDK-T gets no support from anyone. But Kardas stressed that he hoped the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) would support the new party in future.

Other Kurdish parties in Turkey, like the Peace and Democracy Party (BDP), officially stand for autonomy within Turkey, not independence."


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Jag förstår inte varför Rudaw säger det finns omkring 15 miljoner kurder i Turkiet, när turkiska regimen själv säger det finns 22,5 miljoner kurder, exklusive halvkurder.

Hur som helst PDK-T, är ett skämt ingen i Turkiet kommer stödja de, och ingen i KRG kommer stödja de. PUK och Goran stödjer PKK i Turkiet, PDK/KDP (Samma sak) vågar inte stödja PDK-T, då man inte vill att Erdogan o Co ska vända ryggen mot PDK/KDP.
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2014-04-25, 15:36
  #1414
Medlem
Nu har både KDP och PKK partier i alla fyra delar. Dock har KDP-Iran ingen samarbete med KDP-Irak. KDP-Iran är socialister och KDP-Irak ideologilös. Jag menar vet någon ens vad de har för ideologi? Nationalism, njaaa. Hade man varit nationalister så hade man hjälp YPG, samt inte tagit hjälp av Turkiet och Irak(Saddam) för att slå mot PKK och PUK under 90-talet.
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2014-04-25, 15:39
  #1415
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Jag förstår inte varför Rudaw säger det finns omkring 15 miljoner kurder i Turkiet, när turkiska regimen själv säger det finns 22,5 miljoner kurder, exklusive halvkurder.

Hur som helst PDK-T, är ett skämt ingen i Turkiet kommer stödja de, och ingen i KRG kommer stödja de. PUK och Goran stödjer PKK i Turkiet, PDK/KDP (Samma sak) vågar inte stödja PDK-T, då man inte vill att Erdogan o Co ska vända ryggen mot PDK/KDP.

Precis, men varför dessa existerar där men saknar stöd från KRG är jävligt skumt? De lyckades få med namnet "Kurdistan" som ingen annan får kan man ju undra över..Turkiet släpper in dessa för att skapa inre konflikter som motar bort den kurdiska drömmen om en kurdisk nation. Att de smutskastar BDP's politik visar att de kan vara ute efter annat.
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2014-04-25, 15:44
  #1416
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Nu har både KDP och PKK partier i alla fyra delar. Dock har KDP-Iran ingen samarbete med KDP-Irak. KDP-Iran är socialister och KDP-Irak ideologilös. Jag menar vet någon ens vad de har för ideologi? Nationalism, njaaa. Hade man varit nationalister så hade man hjälp YPG, samt inte tagit hjälp av Turkiet och Irak(Saddam) för att slå mot PKK och PUK under 90-talet.

KDP-I är mer efter ett enat Iran skulle jag säga, de vill vara en del av landet och tror inte så starkt på separatism. Det finns många kurdiska kommunister/socialister i Sverige som mer än gärna stödjer Iran än den kurdiska frågan enbart. Anledningen att PDK inte stödjer PKK är för all rikedom som de samlat under sig, de kommer att förlora allt då man inte går efter kompetens men snarare släktband/klaner.
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