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Det var tydligen något som påbörjades redan 1939 med Einsatzgruppens verksamhet och där Reinhard Heydrich med underlydande hade en nyckelposition i framtagandet av statistik och lokalisering m.m av de Polska judarna.
Ursprungligen postat av bagge1
Det finns 3 st tyska uppgifter som är relevanta i sammanhanget. Burgdörfer-studien uppskattade att det fanns 10.72 miljoner judar i Europa. Madagaskarplanen hävdade att det fanns 4 miljoner judar under tysk kontroll 1940. Och sedan Wannsee-protokollet som nämner 11 miljoner judar.
Wannsee-konferensen var ju mer ett möte än en konferens, och menar du att mötet föregicks av noggranna statistiska studier för att komma fram till siffran 11 miljoner?
Jag har inte sett någon uppgift på nätet om varifrån tyskarna fick siffran 11 miljoner som de sedan skrev i protokollet. Kanske du kan klargöra detta, Snackaren?
Wannsee-konferensen var ju mer ett möte än en konferens, och menar du att mötet föregicks av noggranna statistiska studier för att komma fram till siffran 11 miljoner?
Jag har inte sett någon uppgift på nätet om varifrån tyskarna fick siffran 11 miljoner som de sedan skrev i protokollet. Kanske du kan klargöra detta, Snackaren?
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Heydrich also ordered his Einsatzgruppen chiefs to give him updates on the number and location of Polish Jews as well as their property. These orders contained an ambitious demographic plan. Specifically, it was an order to start the ghettoization of Polish Jewry, a deadly decision that would eventually doom millions of Jewish children, women, and men. Under the cover of conventional war, a different war--one against all of Europe's Jews--was beginning.
http://www.holocaustchronicle.org/StaticPages/149.html
Att deras siffror inte är helt uppåt väggarna kan ses gällande t.ex. Polen här:
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http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/gcpol5.htm
1. Statistics of the Jewish population in Poland
The number of Jews within the boundaries of Poland before 1 Sep.1939 can be only approximately established. The last official census before the war was on Dec. 9, 1931 and recorded 3,113,900 persons of the Jewish faith and moreover 18681 soldiers in barracks. If we assume an average yearly increase of population of 9 per thousand (or 28,000 in a year), we find that during the eight years (up to the end of 1939) the Jewish population had increased by 224,000. That is to say that the total on Sep. 1, 1939 amounted to more than 3,356,000.
This figure, however, must be considerably increased, for investigations carried out by Prof. St. Szulc, in charge of the Chief Statistical Office, show that the number of births among the Jewish population in Poland was at least 50% larger than that given in the official birth tables1. (1 Prof. Stefan Szulc, "The Accuracy of the Registration of Births and Deaths", Statistics, Series C. Pt. 41, p. 150.)
If the necessary correction is made, we obtain the figure of 3,590,000 for the Jewish population in Poland. If from this we subtract 116,000 for Jews who migrated across the frontier between December, 1931, and September 1, 1939, it results that the actual number of Jews in Poland must have been about 3,474,000.
The number of Jews within the boundaries of Poland before 1 Sep.1939 can be only approximately established. The last official census before the war was on Dec. 9, 1931 and recorded 3,113,900 persons of the Jewish faith and moreover 18681 soldiers in barracks. If we assume an average yearly increase of population of 9 per thousand (or 28,000 in a year), we find that during the eight years (up to the end of 1939) the Jewish population had increased by 224,000. That is to say that the total on Sep. 1, 1939 amounted to more than 3,356,000.
This figure, however, must be considerably increased, for investigations carried out by Prof. St. Szulc, in charge of the Chief Statistical Office, show that the number of births among the Jewish population in Poland was at least 50% larger than that given in the official birth tables1. (1 Prof. Stefan Szulc, "The Accuracy of the Registration of Births and Deaths", Statistics, Series C. Pt. 41, p. 150.)
If the necessary correction is made, we obtain the figure of 3,590,000 for the Jewish population in Poland. If from this we subtract 116,000 for Jews who migrated across the frontier between December, 1931, and September 1, 1939, it results that the actual number of Jews in Poland must have been about 3,474,000.
Det är inte svårt att konstatera att Baltstaterna, Polen och Ungern bl.a. hade stora bofasta Judiska grupper före 1939…åk dit för en undersökning om du bestrider detta.
Heydrich var chef över RSHA fram till hans död 1943:
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The Reich Main Security Office [RSHA] was a department in the Reich Ministry of the Interior and in the . The term "Chief of the Security Police and SD" describes the person who is the head of the GESTAPO, KRIPO and the SD, and of their headquarters office called the RSHA. The "Chief of the Security Police and SD" and the "head of the RSHA" are always one and the same person.
The central offices of the GESTAPO and SD were coordinated in 1936 with the appointment of Heydrich, the head of the SD, as chief of the Security Police. The office of Heydrich was called "Chief of the Security Police and SD." When the central offices of the GESTAPO and SD, together with the Criminal Police, were centralized in one main office (RSHA) in 1939, the functions were somewhat redistributed. After Heydrich was assasinated in January 1943, the RSHA was headed by Ernst Kaltenbrunner.
Amt I of the RSHA handled personnel for the three agencies. Subsection A 2 handled personnel matters of the GESTAPO, A 3 handled personnel matters of the KRIPO, and A 4 handled personnel matters of the SD.
Amt II handled organization, administration, and law for the three agencies. Subsection C handled domestic arrangements and pay accounts, and was divided into two sections, one to take care of pay accounts of the Security Police and the other to take care of pay accounts of the SD, since personnel of the former were paid by the State and personnel of the latter were paid by the Party.
The central offices of the GESTAPO and SD were coordinated in 1936 with the appointment of Heydrich, the head of the SD, as chief of the Security Police. The office of Heydrich was called "Chief of the Security Police and SD." When the central offices of the GESTAPO and SD, together with the Criminal Police, were centralized in one main office (RSHA) in 1939, the functions were somewhat redistributed. After Heydrich was assasinated in January 1943, the RSHA was headed by Ernst Kaltenbrunner.
Amt I of the RSHA handled personnel for the three agencies. Subsection A 2 handled personnel matters of the GESTAPO, A 3 handled personnel matters of the KRIPO, and A 4 handled personnel matters of the SD.
Amt II handled organization, administration, and law for the three agencies. Subsection C handled domestic arrangements and pay accounts, and was divided into two sections, one to take care of pay accounts of the Security Police and the other to take care of pay accounts of the SD, since personnel of the former were paid by the State and personnel of the latter were paid by the Party.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/world/germany/rsha.htm
Det är festligt med ”revisionister” förresten…som ofta resonerar som följer..
Fakta: Miljontals människor åkte i boskapsvagnar till förintelseläger (ofta bara ett par fotbollsplaner stora) och tågen gick tomma därifrån.
Ett stort antal Nazister har planerat och skrivit/ talat om vad dom skulle göra och vittnar även att dom gjort detta under och efter kriget.
Teknisk bevisning i form av byggnader, ritningar, foton, filmer, rapporter och massgravar.
Fångar och civilbefolkning har vittnat i stort antal om massmord och krematorier vars rök t.o.m syns på flygfoton.
Revisionister: öhhh….alla miljoner har deporterats österut.
Vart?, hur? Och varför har ingen hörts av sen dess?
Revsionister: öhh…dom promenerade väl…
Alternativt
Revisionister: öhhh….Judarna har snarare ökat i antal i Europa sen 1939.
Men mer frekvent är ett uteblivet svar i denna fråga och ett dillande om T.ex. om att Tyskarna ”skulle inte använda Zyklon B till Massmord”.
Så alla Judar/handikappade/politiska fångar/krigsfångar/zigenare som bevisligen fanns i Europa 1939 är bara påhittade?
Revisionister: ja, Judebolsjevik-propaganda
Ridå!
Ingen nationalsocialistisk tysk talade offentligt eller skrev om någon "industriell massgasning" av judar under kriget. De som "vittnat" efter kriget har gjort det under hårt tvång, hot mot anhöriga och tortyr och senare för att rädda sig från långa fängelsestraff, i rent absurda skådeprocesser, helt i avsaknad av varje teknisk bevisning för någon "Förintelse" eller några "gaskammare".
Men Wiesenthal den gamle slemskälmen var ändå tvungen att fuska dit krematorierök på det ökända fotot från "Auschwitzalbumet"...