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Poängen är att ryssarna hade tungt beväpnade trupper i Dobass och alla vet det. Roboten som sköt ner MH 17 kom från en rysk armébas i Kursk.
Lögnen om att ryska minoriteter trakasseras av "nazister" används gång på gång, t ex innan Ryssland attackerade Georgien 2008. Ingen utanför Ryssland tror på detta och det är inte meningen heller. Det finns inga belägg för några omfattande trakasserier mot rysktalande har förekommit.
Så här lät det i västerländsk media år 2014:
CNN:
Donetsk citizens plead for chaos to end
Alexander Omelyavenko, a Donetsk resident, told CNN, “We are Ukrainian but they kill us, so we probably need our own country. Because these people in Kiev, they are not brothers for us.”
While an estimated 117,000 had fled their homes as of August 5, the agency puts the number displaced as of September 1 at 260,000.
https://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/02/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html
Time:
Many Ukrainians Want Russia To Invade
To many in Ukraine, a full-scale Russian military invasion would feel like a liberation. On Saturday, across the country’s eastern and southern provinces, hundreds of thousands of people gathered to welcome the Kremlin’s talk of protecting pro-Russian Ukrainians against the revolution that brought a new government to power last week.
https://time.com/11005/many-ukrainians-want-russia-to-invade/
New York Times:
The Ukrainian Army appears to have fired cluster munitions on several occasions into the heart of Donetsk
“It’s pretty clear that cluster munitions are being used indiscriminately in populated areas, particularly in attacks in early October in Donetsk city,” said Mark Hiznay, senior arms researcher at Human Rights Watch
https://archive.is/rSCuw