2022-12-02, 00:22
  #549781
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Om du klickar på den här länken så får du data som visar antalet testade per dag i England samt andelen positiva svar.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing?areaType=nation&areaName=England#:~:text=t est%20and%20positivity%22-,Download,-Download%20card%20data

Jaha så du kan svara på enkla frågor?

Ska du inte svara på den här då?
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Jag slogs också av att du i din kritik missade chansen att säga vad du själv drar för slutsatser av data från V-safe. Tycker du det finns något skäl att höja på ögonbrynen av det vi fått reda på här? Eller tycker du att allt verkar stabilt? Kanske har du uttalat dig om saken tidigare i tråden men då har jag missat det i så fall.
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2022-12-02, 13:09
  #549782
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Eurypteridas avatar
Finna det en enda studie som tydligt visar att vaccinet är effektivt?
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2022-12-02, 16:28
  #549783
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Finna det en enda studie som tydligt visar att vaccinet är effektivt?
Ett tillägg… finns det en enda seriös och OBEROENDE studie som tydligt visar att vaccinet är effektivt?
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2022-12-02, 23:00
  #549784
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Ett tillägg… finns det en enda seriös och OBEROENDE studie som tydligt visar att vaccinet är effektivt?

Det som är intressant är risk-benifit kalkylen för vaccinet. Så finns det någon studie som visar att nyttan med vaccinet överstiger risken?
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2022-12-03, 00:01
  #549785
Medlem
Finns det nån möjlighet att man kan få "Borrelia" av tex covid-vaccinet?
Det är nämligen så att min bror fått "Borrelia" men aldrig haft eller ens sett en fästing på riktigt.
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2022-12-03, 00:41
  #549786
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Det som är intressant är risk-benifit kalkylen för vaccinet. Så finns det någon studie som visar att nyttan med vaccinet överstiger risken?
Benefit-risk assessment of COVID-19 vaccine, mRNA (Comirnaty) for age 16–29 years

Conclusions and discussion
Our results demonstrate that the benefits of CVmRNA clearly outweigh its risks for all age and sex subgroups we analyzed. Under the base case scenario and the worst-case scenario (Scenario 1 and 3), we predicted a higher number of myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalizations than the COVID-19 hospitalizations among males 16–17 years old; however, considering the differential clinical implications of COVID-19 and myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalization, we still consider the benefits of the vaccine to outweigh its risks. Moreover, under all other scenarios including the most likely (Scenario 2), our model predicts that preventable COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths exceed the myocarditis/pericarditis cases and related hospitalizations and deaths for all age and sex subgroups.

We note that COVID-19 incidence highly influences the predicted benefits of the vaccine. If the disease incidence is higher, the benefits of the vaccine will be greater, and vice versa. Therefore, the benefit-risk conclusion may change if the COVID-19 incidence rate becomes very low in the future. Also, “the worst-case scenario” (in term of vaccine benefit) presented here is the worst only among the modeled scenarios. Scenarios worse than Scenario 3 could occur if the data fall outside the ranges of model inputs we used, such as lower COVID-19 incidence than those reported on July 10, 2021, lower vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 cases (<70%) and against hospitalizations (<80%), and shorter vaccine protection durati
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8958165/

Hope that helps.
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2022-12-03, 01:13
  #549787
Medlem
Folkhälsomyndigheten är desperata kör nu reklamkampanjer i tv där dom går ut med glöm inte ta fler doser.
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2022-12-03, 01:31
  #549788
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Eurypteridas avatar
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Benefit-risk assessment of COVID-19 vaccine, mRNA (Comirnaty) for age 16–29 years

Conclusions and discussion
Our results demonstrate that the benefits of CVmRNA clearly outweigh its risks for all age and sex subgroups we analyzed. Under the base case scenario and the worst-case scenario (Scenario 1 and 3), we predicted a higher number of myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalizations than the COVID-19 hospitalizations among males 16–17 years old; however, considering the differential clinical implications of COVID-19 and myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalization, we still consider the benefits of the vaccine to outweigh its risks. Moreover, under all other scenarios including the most likely (Scenario 2), our model predicts that preventable COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths exceed the myocarditis/pericarditis cases and related hospitalizations and deaths for all age and sex subgroups.

We note that COVID-19 incidence highly influences the predicted benefits of the vaccine. If the disease incidence is higher, the benefits of the vaccine will be greater, and vice versa. Therefore, the benefit-risk conclusion may change if the COVID-19 incidence rate becomes very low in the future. Also, “the worst-case scenario” (in term of vaccine benefit) presented here is the worst only among the modeled scenarios. Scenarios worse than Scenario 3 could occur if the data fall outside the ranges of model inputs we used, such as lower COVID-19 incidence than those reported on July 10, 2021, lower vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 cases (<70%) and against hospitalizations (<80%), and shorter vaccine protection durati
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8958165/

Hope that helps.
Det där är inte seriös forskning, det är en gissning som utgår ifrån att naturlig immunitet inte existerar inom åldersgruppen unga, trots att det ALDRIG har varit fallet sedan vaccinet kom ut på marknaden.
Vidare utgår de ifrån att ingen på en miljon unga som vaccineras dör av myokardit medan en dör av Covid-19.
Man måste alltså vaccinera 1 miljon människor för att rädda livet på en ung människa enligt gissningen.
Dessutom har de utgått från att vaccinet är väldigt effektivt i sex månader, en gissning till.
De har även endast räknat med en biverkning myokardit per en miljon vaccinerade unga människor, ett önsketänkande.
Sammanfattningsvis är studien ett fantasifoster utan verklighetsbaserad data!
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2022-12-03, 05:27
  #549789
Avstängd
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Ursprungligen postat av Takadongtakadang
Benefit-risk assessment of COVID-19 vaccine, mRNA (Comirnaty) for age 16–29 years

Conclusions and discussion
Our results demonstrate that the benefits of CVmRNA clearly outweigh its risks for all age and sex subgroups we analyzed. Under the base case scenario and the worst-case scenario (Scenario 1 and 3), we predicted a higher number of myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalizations than the COVID-19 hospitalizations among males 16–17 years old; however, considering the differential clinical implications of COVID-19 and myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalization, we still consider the benefits of the vaccine to outweigh its risks. Moreover, under all other scenarios including the most likely (Scenario 2), our model predicts that preventable COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths exceed the myocarditis/pericarditis cases and related hospitalizations and deaths for all age and sex subgroups.

We note that COVID-19 incidence highly influences the predicted benefits of the vaccine. If the disease incidence is higher, the benefits of the vaccine will be greater, and vice versa. Therefore, the benefit-risk conclusion may change if the COVID-19 incidence rate becomes very low in the future. Also, “the worst-case scenario” (in term of vaccine benefit) presented here is the worst only among the modeled scenarios. Scenarios worse than Scenario 3 could occur if the data fall outside the ranges of model inputs we used, such as lower COVID-19 incidence than those reported on July 10, 2021, lower vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 cases (<70%) and against hospitalizations (<80%), and shorter vaccine protection durati
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8958165/

Hope that helps.

Pfizers studie visade att det dog fler i vaccingruppen än i kontrollgruppen.

Hope that helps.
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2022-12-03, 09:28
  #549790
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DroidBishops avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Takadongtakadang
Benefit-risk assessment of COVID-19 vaccine, mRNA (Comirnaty) for age 16–29 years

Conclusions and discussion
Our results demonstrate that the benefits of CVmRNA clearly outweigh its risks for all age and sex subgroups we analyzed. Under the base case scenario and the worst-case scenario (Scenario 1 and 3), we predicted a higher number of myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalizations than the COVID-19 hospitalizations among males 16–17 years old; however, considering the differential clinical implications of COVID-19 and myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalization, we still consider the benefits of the vaccine to outweigh its risks. Moreover, under all other scenarios including the most likely (Scenario 2), our model predicts that preventable COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths exceed the myocarditis/pericarditis cases and related hospitalizations and deaths for all age and sex subgroups.

We note that COVID-19 incidence highly influences the predicted benefits of the vaccine. If the disease incidence is higher, the benefits of the vaccine will be greater, and vice versa. Therefore, the benefit-risk conclusion may change if the COVID-19 incidence rate becomes very low in the future. Also, “the worst-case scenario” (in term of vaccine benefit) presented here is the worst only among the modeled scenarios. Scenarios worse than Scenario 3 could occur if the data fall outside the ranges of model inputs we used, such as lower COVID-19 incidence than those reported on July 10, 2021, lower vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 cases (<70%) and against hospitalizations (<80%), and shorter vaccine protection durati
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8958165/

Hope that helps.
Lol vilken jävla dynga

Argumenterar man för att nyttan överstiger risken hos 16-29 åringar i Dec 2022 är man retarderad
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2022-12-03, 09:43
  #549791
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Takadongtakadang
Benefit-risk assessment of COVID-19 vaccine, mRNA (Comirnaty) for age 16–29 years

Conclusions and discussion
Our results demonstrate that the benefits of CVmRNA clearly outweigh its risks for all age and sex subgroups we analyzed. Under the base case scenario and the worst-case scenario (Scenario 1 and 3), we predicted a higher number of myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalizations than the COVID-19 hospitalizations among males 16–17 years old; however, considering the differential clinical implications of COVID-19 and myocarditis/pericarditis hospitalization, we still consider the benefits of the vaccine to outweigh its risks. Moreover, under all other scenarios including the most likely (Scenario 2), our model predicts that preventable COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths exceed the myocarditis/pericarditis cases and related hospitalizations and deaths for all age and sex subgroups.

We note that COVID-19 incidence highly influences the predicted benefits of the vaccine. If the disease incidence is higher, the benefits of the vaccine will be greater, and vice versa. Therefore, the benefit-risk conclusion may change if the COVID-19 incidence rate becomes very low in the future. Also, “the worst-case scenario” (in term of vaccine benefit) presented here is the worst only among the modeled scenarios. Scenarios worse than Scenario 3 could occur if the data fall outside the ranges of model inputs we used, such as lower COVID-19 incidence than those reported on July 10, 2021, lower vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 cases (<70%) and against hospitalizations (<80%), and shorter vaccine protection durati
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8958165/

Hope that helps.
2021, pre-Omicron data. Inte särskilt relevant.
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2022-12-03, 10:13
  #549792
Medlem
Eurypteridas avatar
Jag tänker såhär, om man vaccinerar befolkningen riskerar en viss andel att skadas och dö av vaccinet, om de sedan ändå får infektionen har befolkningen både riskerat att skadas/dö av vaccinet och viruset.
Upprepar man proceduren igen riskerar de att skadas/dö av vaccinet en gång till, risken ökar för varje spruta!

För att en studie ska bevisa att vaccinet är effektivt bör den visa att befolkningen blir skyddad en längre tid och för att vaccinet ska vara säkert bör den visa på risken för skada efter upprepade inokuleringar.

Även om en sån studie finns betyder det inte att man ska rekommendera vaccinet för vem säger att det är självklart att man ska döda en person ur grupp A med ett vaccin för att rädda livet på en person ur grupp B?
Det kanske är fel person som räddas, t.ex. en som ändå har ett kort liv framför sig med dålig livskvalité!

Jag frågar igen, finns det en enda oberoende studie som visar att vaccinet är effektivt?
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