Blev Dag Hammarskjöld mördad?

Menar du att han råkade försäga sig och sen bestämde sig för att lägga locket på? Borde det inte vara hans plikt att avslöja eventuella mördare?

Du är som rassarna här som tror precis alla trådar handlar om invandring, fast ditt universum roterar runt jfk istället.. Visste jfk också att Dag blev nedskjuten eller varför blandar du in honom nu igen??

Hur vet du det?

givetvis - vem skulle annars kunna visa att de gått igenom sina arkiv ordentligt menar du - det är ju knappast öppet för kreti och pleti att rota runt i. Å andra sidan kan man ju fråga sig hur de skulle kunna bevisa en sådan sak utan att låta utomstående få fri tillgång till arkiv med hemligstämplat material..?

Och dina påståenden, som att endast vita vittnen förhördes, får du nog själv förklara..

FNs rapport 1962;
We turn now to the three charcoal burners. We give in Appendix 1 our appreciation of these Africans as witnesses. All three were unsatisfactory. Apart from that finding, their evidence discloses so improbable an attack that it could carry no weight. Both Mr. ‘Simango and Mr. Mazibisa speak of. the second aircraft being with the large aircraft immediately before the crash and then apparently disappearing in the crash

Poängen är nog snarare att just de enstaka vittnen du verkar ha fastnat för kanske framstår något mindre trovärdiga om uppemot några hundra andra vittnen säger sig ha upplevt situationen annorlunda..

Att inte höra vittnen alls vore givetvis idiotiskt - precis som det är idiotiskt att lita blint på de få vittnesmål som bekräftar din bias.

Vilka andra ”100 vittnen” tänker du på här? Jag litar ingalunda ”blint” på någonting. Jag går igenom materialet och gör därpå min specifika bedömning av samtliga de enskildheter som framkommer, vittnesmål inkluderade.

Tvärtom så är det ni som svepande avfärdar alla de vittnesmål som pekar mot foul play som antingen är omedvetna om er bias, alternativt är medvetet ohederliga av okänd anledning.

Frågan blir då varför.

Men snälla nån - varför läser du inte bara undersökningarna innan du börjar diskutera??

To avoid undue complication in this part of the report we deal in detail with all the eye-witnesses in Appendix 1, We have divided them into four classes.
In Classes A and B the general picture given by those witnesses who saw or heard SE-BDY is of it passing across the airport more or less in the direction in which it should have been heading, of it being at about 6,000 feet above sea level, perhaps a little lower, and of it going faster than aircraft usually went, which is probably explained by its being a larger type than was usual in this area. There were two witnesses, living to the west, who heard the aircraft passing over in what must have been a turn to the right. Mr. Bermant and Mrs. Wright. Both, from the sound, had an impression of low height. In so far as witnesses in Class B speak of some phenomenon in the sky they do not help in the discovery of the cause of the crash. Their evidence merely shows that there was a crash,
But none of these witnesses, and they are many; saw or heard any other aircraft at about the
time that SE-BDY passed over Ndola.

Class C, persons who speak of two aircraft at the same time, is dealt with later.

Class D comprises witnesses who saw or heard something long after the crash. Their evidence does not bear on causation. The same is of course true of any evidence which relates only to the later discovery of the crashed aircraft.

Local witnesses at Kolwezi have stated that the Fouga had never bean operated at night.

Up to approximately 2210 GMT on 17th September the pilot was in contact with Ndola tower and was acting and talking normally and the aircraft was seen and heard to be flying in a normal manner,
From that time on, for the remaining 5 minutes or so of the aircrafts flight, it was under observation by many police officers on duty and by three witnesses in particular, except for the last 20 or 30 seconds when SE-BDX apparently went below the line of’ vision of one of them who was standing on a fourth floor balcony.

Från Hammarskjöldkommissionens rapport:

In his memoirs, Reflections on an Era: fifty years of mining in changing Africa (1981), Sir Ronald Prain, the former chairman of the Rhodesian Selection Trust, a mining conglomerate, wrote of the DC6 crash:

“Dag Hammarskjöld .... was killed in a plane crash in September 1961 while on a peace mission to see Tshombe. I remember the event well. I was staying at a guest house on the Copperbelt, relaxing on a Saturday evening, when one of our geologists called in to say that there was some unusual activity going on overhead. He was a radio ‘ham’ [amateur] and had been listening in to conversations between the control tower at Ndola airport and various units in the air and on the ground, from which he gathered that an aircraft had crashed somewhere nearby. He went off to organise a locate group of mining men to go out into the bush to try to locate the scene of the crash and to look for any survivors. The wreckage was eventually found a few miles from Ndola.”

Här avfärdar vi svepande med ett, ”50 000 häxbränningar”.

På tal om att det endast fanns EN Fouga Magister tillgänglig i Katanga vid tiden för kraschen:

13.17 David Doyle, who was in charge of the CIA’s Elisabethville base until April 1961, has recorded in a memoir how, not long after the assassination of Patrice Lumumba in January 1961, he went to the airport at night to make what he described as a routine check-up, and found there a US-registered KC97 commercial Stratocruiser whose civilian crew were unloading three Fouga Magisters for delivery to Katanga “in direct violation,” Doyle wrote “of US policy”. The Fougas, although they were training planes, were armed.

Här kör vi lite ”häxbränningar” igen.

Din specifika bedömning av denna uppgift:
Lyder så här:
Men det var varken omedveten bias eller medvetet ohederligt för egentligen menade du ju:
Varför skrev du att det var aluminiumdelar?

Menar du fotografier av något som ser ut som kulhål i vrakdelar från något som kan vara DC6an, så har du helt rätt, men det var inte direkt så du uttryckte dig...

Ja ibland drar man förhastade slutsatser och ibland uttrycker man sig otydligt och ett förtydligande behövs, men det hjälper ju inte när du leker tysta leken...
(FB) Hani Hanjours flygkunskaper.

Lögnare.

Här verkar du ha dragit för långtgångna slutsatser utifrån fotografier du inte ens sett och då långtgående slutsatser är ett återkommande beteende från din sida får du finna dig i att bli ifrågasatt eller tydligare skriva vad du egentligen menar.

Intressant vore dock om det kom fram vilka fotografier som åsyftas.

Lite mer ”häxbränningar” från Hammarskjöldkommissionen:

13.25 About 9 p.m. on 17 September 1961 Southall was telephoned at his home by the communications watch officer, who said “Get yourself out here tonight. Something interesting is going to happen.” Southall drove to the listening facility where, shortly after midnight, a recording was played back to a group gathered over a loudspeaker. As Southall has consistently recalled it, a single male voice was heard over the sound of an aircraft engine saying in a voice Southall describes as ‘cool and professional’:

“I see a transport plane coming low. All the lights are on. I’m going down to make a run on it. Yes, it’s the Transair DC6. It’s the plane.”

13.26 There followed the sound of cannon-fire; then, in a more animated voice:

“I’ve hit it. There are flames. It’s going down. It’s crashing.”

”Häxbränningar” och ondskefullt fabulerande.

”Häxbränningarna” sprider sig som löpeldar över Afrika. H-kommissionen fortsätter:

13.8 Tore Meijer, a Swedish flying instructor with the Imperial Ethiopian Air Force, in 1994 described to a journalist how he was trying out a short-wave radio on the night of 17-18 September 1961. At about 2200 GMT (which was midnight at Ndola) he picked up dialogue in English which was clearly coming from an airport control tower and in which the name Ndola featured. As he later recalled it, the speaker said

“He’s approaching the airport. He’s turning. He’s levelling. Another plane is approaching from behind - what is that?”

13.9 Here, said Meijer, the transmission ended abruptly. He tried to report what he had heard, telling the head of the Ethiopian Air Force and Americans whom he knew, but without any apparent result. He also tried to get in touch with Bo Virving, Transair’s chief engineer in Congo, again without success.


Det här finns INTE med i den logg som transkriberades av Ndolas flygledare i tornet, Arundel Campbell Martin, två dagar efter kraschen.

Häxor ...

H-kommissionen fortsätter med ”häxbränningarna” här med vittnesmålen från den enda överlevande från kraschen, Sgt Harold Julien:

12.8 Police Inspector A. V. Allen, who spoke to Julien shortly after his admission to hospital on 18 September, reported that Julien had made these statements to him:

“It blew up”

“There was great speed, great speed.”

“Then there was the crash.”

“There was a lot of small explosions all around.”

“I pulled the emergency tab and just ran out.”

Och från journalisten och ”häxbrännaren” Marta Paynter:

Paynter recorded that Julien, although sedated, had had lucid periods, in one of which he “spoke of an explosion before the crash and whispered ‘Go back, go back.’ A nurse who was attending to him asked “Go back where?” Paynter reports Julien’s reply: “Dag said ‘Go back’; he said it several times.”

Ondskefullt fabulerande.

Fascinerande att se hur onopono fullständigt slutat svara på frågor och istället bara maler på med inlägg om i stort sett ingenting. Skadekontroll på hög nivå :-)

I de trådar du skriver i tenderar dina favorit vittnen att framträda åratal eller årtionden efter själva händelsen.
Vittnesmålet är från 1994, drygt 30 år efter händelsen. Säkerligen har väl Tore berättat detta tidigare?
Här är ett lite färskare vittnesmål, endast 20 år i rumstemperatur.
(Det framgår inte när det sista vittnesmålet lämnades.)