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Africanized
Här är två av dina inlägg Ondahamstern postade efter varandra,
I det första lutar du åt att Cohen är ett kredibelt vittne trots att han ljugit för kongressen tidigare.
Sen lite glidningar om att Trump nog skulle kunna vara rasist ändå.
I det andra inlägget jobbar du hårt för att få till det att Candace Owens inte är kredibel alls.
Det slår dig inte att det är en svart kvinna som försvarar ärkerasisten Trump
Sen skriver du att hon är en bricka i ett spel för att få Trump att inte se rasistisk ut, hur vet du det?
Hon kanske tycker Trump är awesome trots att hon är svart och kvinna (dubbelt upp för Trump är dessutom sexistisk).
Det enda vi VET är att Cohen ljugit tidigare och därför är mindre kredibel än Candace Owens.
Av dina två inlägg ovan tolkar jag dig som negativ till Trump rent generellt

Du missar min poäng ganska kraftigt, det jag syftar på är att Cohen har absolut inget att förlora på att vara ärlig, men vi vet samtidigt inte hur pass ärlig han är.
Men om vi tittar på hur Republikanska partiet agerade så är Cohen (oavsett vad man tycker om honom) sedd som både vuxnare och mer pålitlig än de republikaner som konstant påpekade att han tidigare hade ljugit istället för att faktiskt ställa genuina frågor som kunde ha bevisat vad de ville få fram.
Att Owens används som en politisk bricka för att motsäga
dokumenterad historia av rasistiska uttalanden för att inte tala om hela tjafset om birtherismen är bara skrattretande, Trump har en
dokumenterad historia där han har agerat mer eller mindre rasistiskt.
Sedan så finns det något som stöttar Cohens narrativ och det är att den skola som det påstods att Trump hade hotat så att de inte skulle lämna ut hans betyg, denna skola (Fordham) har bekräftat detta, handling väger mer än ord men om saker som sägs kan backas upp så bör man kanske ta till sig de aspekterna som bekräftas.
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Fordham University confirms Michael Cohen’s testimony that he threatened legal action if President Donald Trump’s academic records were released.
The former Trump Organization lawyer told congressional investigators that Trump directed him to threaten his high school, colleges and the College Board not to release his grades or SAT scores.
A spokesperson for Fordham, which Trump attended for two years, confirmed to NPR that a representative from the Trump campaign contacted the school toward the beginning of the race asking about the release of school records.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/fordham-confirms-cohen-testimony-trump-campaign-threatened-legal-action-school-released-records/
Så nej, vi vet inte bara att Cohen har ljugit tidigare, vi vet att Trump har hotat Fordham vilket stärker Cohens vittnesmål, vi vet att det finns en massa frågor kring hans sexuella agerande varav 20 blandade anklagelser som rör allt från tafsande till rena våldtäkter för att inte tala om hur han så oförskämt stöttade Roy More som stod anklagad för övergrepp samt pedofili under valet.
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This post was originally published in November 2017. It has been updated with additional harassment claims and public statements from Trump’s accusers.
A defamation suit filed by Summer Zervos, which is still winding its way through the courts, opened up the possibility that Trump’s accusers will get their day in court. Some of the women have continued speaking out, hoping that away from the chaos of the election, people might be more willing to listen to their accounts. Meanwhile, new accusers have come forward. On Monday a staffer on Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign filed a lawsuit claiming that he kissed her without her consent while they were on the campaign trail.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/12/what-happened-to-trumps-16-sexual-misconduct-accusers.html
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Trump’s Plan For Alabama: Back Roy Moore Without Mentioning His Name
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-plan-for-alabama-back-roy-moore-without-mentioning-his-name
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1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.
1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speech accusing countries like Japan of “stripping the United States of economic dignity.” This matches much of his current rhetoric on China.
1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
Det handlar inte bara om att jämföra en som har ljugit tidigare mot någon som har ljugit tidigare (Trump Vs Cohen) för i sådana fall så skulle vi inte kunna ta något som avdokater eller politiker säger i en rent rättsligt, utan det är när det finns backning kring det som sägs.