Mordet på Olof Palme - 28 februari 1986

Det finns ju 22 och 22long samt andra varianter och laddningar, men ja det är samma kaliber. Alltid varit yrkesmördarens favvo.

Fast det kräver väl en träffsäker skytt, som får in ett dödande skott på något avstånd? Är det också en vanlig kaliber i tävlingsskytte?

Stämmer nog, men Nigel Barnetts var en SW Magnum 357...

Ja det är det, har själv tävlingsskjutit med den kalibern i 7 år, fast det var längesen...

Vilka yrksmördare då?
Jag har dålig koll på yrkesmördare och har bara läst om en del italienare. Jag har aldrig läst något om att dessa skulle ha använt 22or vid något fall. Istället har dessa helst använt sig av automatvapen (AK47 eller någon lämplig k-pist som man haft liggande som passar bättre för rörliga och snabba jobb).
Du kanske kan tipsa om några yrkesmördare som föredragit denna kaliber.

Beviset är det att makarna Palme inte var utanför Sveavägen 56 och att Anders B inte var utanför Sveavägen 44.

Milan Valverius och Elving Gruvedahl fanns båda med vid obduktionen. Båda riktade kritik mot PU.

Om du läser EGs bok som är en svidande kritik av PU ser du en person som inte skulle mörka något om MOP. Han plockar ner teorin om christer Pettersson så fullständigt att det knappt finns molekyler kvar . Lugnt och sakligt visar han på hur centrala vittnen ignorerats.

Stay Behind existerade inte i något vakuum . Det hade sitt kansli inne på Rikspolisstyrelsen under överinseende av PG Näss. Om SB var inblandade talar det mesta för att det var med aktörer som jobbade på egen hand .

Såna fanns det gott om . Inom SÄPO har vi gruppen som bedrev dold spaning på OP.

I oktober 1986 blirÅke J Eek kommissarie på RPS. Här kommer en som haft sin egen agenda i 40år. Vare sig det var i WACL, T-kontoret, nazirörelsen, TCO, KCIA, klara-Lidingö FBU eller sonderkommando NORD. Rykten har länge gått att Åke och hans drabanter spanade på Olof Palme. Kan det bringas klarhet i dessa tror jag vi är ett steg närmare en lösning av MOP.

I ett annat inlägg nämner du James Jesus Angelton. Han försvann från CIA 1974 och var bortkopplad vid tiden för MOP. Olle Frånstedt lämnade SÄPO 1978 och jobbade i Malaysia när MOP skedde. Han var avpolleterad 1986 då Näss var SÄPOs pappa rakt igenom.
Att OF skulle ha något hemligt samarbete med Hans Holmer är omöjligt, vilket OF betonar i sin bok.

Sanningen är nog att han mött dem utanför Sveavägen 42 och att han med sina två berättelser försöker dölja det.

Den skapar mindre blod,skrik, ljud, flamma,uppmärksamhet collateral damage,men gör ändå sitt jobb.

Mossads kidon-grupp t.e.x. https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/israeli-mossad-22-lrs/
https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-True-Story-Israeli-Counter-Terrorist/dp/0743291646

His weapon of choice for executions was a .22 long-barrelled Colt. EUGENE DE KOCK Security police officer in command of Vlakplaas, which was widely used by the SSC for 'wet/black' ops within the borders of South Africa
Let me take the Committee back to Dulcie September, the ANC representative murdered in France on 28 March 1988. This gentle, friendly, unassuming woman was to be a victim of, to us, an unknown assassin, but, to the racist regime, a hired hit-man who shot her five times with a .22 calibre pistol as she was opening the door
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"The mafia commonly used a .22 for close-up-and-personal assassinations. Israelis too."

CIAs assasination manual:

In 1997, the CIA declassified a number of documents related to the 1954 coup in Guatemala. I've recently spent some time pouring through these documents, Among them are redacted lists of purported communists who were to be assassinated (how do we know they weren't?) after the coup took place. On the cover note on one of these lists is the name Rip, which is listed as being illegible on the National Security Archive, but which is clearly a reference to Rip Robertson....likely prepared by Albert Haney, co-ordinated with Tracy Barnes, there is a logistics list including a mention of 21 .22 caliber rifles with silencers. Also included in the documents is a CIA STUDY of ASSASSINATION, found in the training file of the Guatemalan operation. This is the manual one would have to assume was used by Robertson and David Sanchez Morales while training the exile army of Carlos Castillo-Armas. The manual says, in part:
=> Silent Firearms
The sound of the explosion of the proponent in a firearm can be effectively silenced by appropriate attachments. However, the sound of the projective passing through the air cannot, since this sound is generated outside the weapon. In cases w here the velocity of the bullet greatly exceeds that of sound, the noise so generated is much louder than that of the explosion. Since all powerful rifles have muzzle velocities of over 2000 feet per second, they cannot be silenced.

Pistol bullets, on the other hand, usually travel slower than sound and the sound of their flight is negligible. Therefore, pistols, submachine guns and any sort of improvised carbine or rifle which will take a low velocity cartridge can be silenc ed. The user should not forget that the sound of the operation of a repeating action is considerable, and that the sound of bullet strike, particularly in bone is quite loud.


This is significant in that the CIA is asserting that rifles firing a sub-sonic charge are still accurate up to 100 yards. More importantly, on the logistics list they specifically request .22 caliber rifles, when they have their pick of rifles with a much-larger caliber. This indicates that there were advantages to a .22. Since the .22 was the rifle requested and was given to the Guatemalans along with the Study in Asssassination, it only makes sense that the "100 yards" comment apllies to the .22. ... the CIA undoubtedly led their assassins-in-training to believe... in the .22...

Shockingly, elsewhere in the assassination manual it states "public figures or guarded officials may be killed with great reliability and some safety if a firing point can be established prior to an official occasion. The propaganda value may be very high."

"An assassin usually works close to his target. A .22 is quiet and enough to be lethal. A .22 suppresses very well, even with home made suppressors. Most assassinations are done without suppressors though. A .22 fired in a house usually cannot be heard outside so neighbors are unaware of a shot being fired. An experienced assassin will use environmental noise to suppress the gunshot, such as a passing train, rock concert, etc. It isn't simply walk up and smoke someone. It doesn't go down like in the movies. The military and government agencies routinely deploy suppressed .22LR weapons in covert diplomacy."

In 1997, the CIA declassified a number of documents ... be assassinated after the coup took place. On the cover note on one of these lists is the name Rip, which is listed as being illegible on the National Security Archive, but which is clearly a reference to Rip Robertson. On an earlier report, most likely prepared by Albert Haney, co-ordinated with Tracy Barnes, there is a logistics list including a mention of 21 .22 caliber rifles with silencers. Also included in the documents is a CIA STUDY of ASSASSINATION, ... This is the manual one would have to assume was used by Robertson and David Sanchez Morales while training the exile army of Carlos Castillo-Armas.

"Yes, the .22 LR has been widely used as an assassins weapon. One example is the Mossad using the Beretta Model 71, another is the CIA using .22 Walther PPKs. One or two .22 LRs to the brain from a yard or two away is all it will take."
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-"They are quiet. A .22 is quieter than most normal household sounds like a toilet flushing. You could kill someone in one room and the guy next door wouldn't even notice."

"Israeli equivalent to our "sky marshall" program originally using Beretta .22s. In at least one instance, they used them to great effect vs. RPGs and AKs:

There are also reports that the Mossad used .22 SHORTS to kill those responsible for the attack on their athletes in Munich. "

"The .22 is quiet enough that when it is used in a building, the sound will not be recognized as a gunshot over all the other noises in a city(of course, a suppressor would be nice, but it is not needed as much as for a .40 or .45) but any good agent would have a suppressor no matter what the Operation.

-as Undercover Agent, the .22is be choice and a .22 pistol loaded with HP bullet will kill within a very short time if the GSW itself does not kill the suspect instantly.
-The POU of an Assassin is totally different than that of a Soldier or Policeman.
-As an agent, your goal is to get in and make the hit. Usually the hit is made while the suspect is not going to expect it.
-You do not want a high-signature weapon that will draw attention to yourself.
-You want a small weapon, in a small caliber as it is easier to conceal."

"South Africa: After Verwoerd had made his opening speech,.... A shot was fired at virtually point-blank range into Dr Verwoerd's right cheek from a .22 automatic pistol. A second shot was fired into his right ear.’"
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1. .22s are lethal...
2. Assassins and covert agents used .22 cal. rounds for many years. In combat large caliber rounds and "knock down" or stopping power are very important, but covert agents who want someone dead do not need to kill them instantly, as long as the target dies. .22 bullets often enter but do not have the force to leave, so they bounce around inside the body cavity, doing further damage.
3. The rounds are very small and easy to conceal.
4. Pistols for these rounds are likewise small and easy to conceal.
5. .22s are relatively quiet without modification.
6. They can be made much quieter (so called "silenced") very easily. Put simply, there are two sounds to a rifle shot, the "pop" and the "crack". The pop is the gas emitted as the bullet leaves the barrel and the crack is the sound of the bullet breaking the sound barrier. The pop can be reduced using material at the end of the barrel which absorbs some of the sound. Subsonic rounds can be purchased which prevent the crack since they travel at speeds below the sound barrier. "

"Agent carry...its also a very uncommon round and expensive. In my experences .22lr is one of the most acurate little rounds out there, which is a must when shooting such a small projo.

I'd like to think a .380acp or mak would be "better" but from what i've been seeing out of my .22lr and friends makarov, the .22lr puts it to shame. We'll see though, he's working up some handload and has a new barrel on the way for that mak."

"As for the .22, the use of it, like has already been stated, was for size and concealability."

"The PSM is a Soviet pistol from the late 1970s which has gotten itself quite the fanciful reputation here in the US, ... PSM and its 5.45x18mm bottlenecked cartridge is capable of astounding feats of armor penetration, and that it was designed specifically for KGB assassins."

"Over here in MA, we had the Irish mob too. James J. "Whitey" Bulger and Howie Winter ran the Irish mob in Boston. Bulger personally killed one snitch with a .22 rifle (shot through the head). In Roxbury, the predominantly black and Hispanic section of the city, the preferred weapons are .22s and 9mms."

"Assasinations...Aguila makes a cartridge called the SSS Sniper, it’s a 60 grain sub sonic .22lr that averages around 900fps, that’s around 108ft/lb of force on a pretty small area."
the beretta bobcat..
Chambered for .22LR or .25ACP (6.35 mm). This compact, rugged small frame measures just 4.9 inches (125 mm) overall and weighs only 11.5 ounces (325 grams). It features a lightweight, alloy frame, blued steel slide, tip-up barrel, and double/single action. The Bobcat comes with a 7-round magazine for .22LR ammunition, or an 8 round magazine for .25 (6.35 mm)caliber cartridges.

most assassins use the .22 caliber pistol because it can easily be concealed and carried and is the favorite weapon of choice for shooting at close range without having to worry about noise and is dead accurate. "

Till och med "HOLLOWOOD" håller med... se filmen Casino och filmen ASSASINS

Han såg det han säger han såg, men inte utanför Sveavägen 56 och Sveavägen 44. Det var utanför Sveavägen 42 han såg paret Palme och Anders B.

Nej, båda forhör är korrekta. Det är bara Nicola F som lurar polisen.

Okej, tack. Jag ser att Håkan Ström håller det första förhöret som innehåller den felaktiga uppgiften om Sveavägen 56.

Den felaktiga uppgiften korrigeras till Sveavägen 44 när Jan Länninge vallar Fauzzi längs Sveavägen.

På årsdagen av mordet 1987 vallas Fauzzi återigen, denna gång av Håkan Ström. Då verkar polisen ha låtit misstänkta personer passera Fauzzi, personer som han inte reagerar över.

Om inte den vid tillfället 22-årige Fauzzi är en iskall fullblodsmytoman (jag har ingen aning, har aldrig träffat honom) så ter det sig för mig osannolikt att han skulle ha kunnat vidmakthålla lögnen om han ljugit ihop sin historia.

Det är trots allt inte otroligt att en kock på väg hem från kvällsskiftet på en restaurang promenerar hemåt genom staden efter 23 en fredagkväll.

Det är heller inte otroligt att ett vittne tar miste på en gatuadress.

Tills motsatsen är bevisad utgår jag ifrån att Fauzzi mötte paret Palme (och såg mannen i Tensonjackan bakom dem) när han befann sig i höjd med Sveavägen 44.

Fauzzi gick då förbi Bankomaten, Sveavägen 42, utan att notera AB.

Det är inte heller särskilt konstigt eftersom AB, vilket han själv berättar, stod vid trottoarkanten och spanade efter sina arbetskamrater.

Mötet med paret Palme bör då, enligt PO Fallmos utmärkta beräkningar, ha skett cirka 23.20.

Den obesvarade frågan blir då vem mannen som gick 8-10 meter bakom paret Palme var.