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Are you sure one cannot find out "bleeding to death" in the autopsy? I am not a doctor but found the following in a presentation of a lecture named "Scharfe Gewalt und Identifizierung" = "Sharp violence and identification" on the home page of the german University of Rostock.
They give clear diagnostics for bleeding to death. So if the remains were in such a good state as you mentioned, shouldn't this be determined?
https://rechtsmedizin.med.uni-rostock.de/fileadmin/Institute/rechtsmedizin/Vorlesung_Downloads/6._Scharfe_Gewalt_Ident_Port_2015-2016.pdf page 57
Diagnoseweisend beim (todesursächlichen) Verbluten:
Reduzierte Totenflecken
Blässe innerer Organe
subendokardiale Blutungen = Entblutungsblutungen
entspeicherte Milz
Schockzeichnung der Nieren (blasse Rinde, hyperämische Markkegel)
-> Diagnose "Verbluten" beim Vorhandensein eines oder mehrerer Kriterien
(My) Translation:
Diagnosing the (deadly) bleeding:
Reduced lividity
Paleness of inner organs
subendocardial bleedings = debleeding bleedings
spilled spleen
Shock drawing of the kidneys (pale bark, hyperemic medullary cones)
-> Diagnosis of "bleeding to death" in the presence of one or more criteria
I know that the topic on lividity was up for discussion in some way, don't remember where, and if I remember correctly it was said that reduced lividity could in this case be caused by the body having been sinked in water. Also, the diagnosis is that if "one or more criteria" is present, and that makes you wonder - first of all, that implies that these symptoms could show, but not necessarily so. Also, couldn't any of these symptoms come from any other cause of death, or from the body being sinked in the water?
There are a few plausible causes of death, imo.
- Stabbing causing the death more or less directly (like a stab in the heart)
- Strangulation, which seems to be the most "popular" alternative (though there are no indications that points to that, imo, not directly and not even indirectly).
- Bleeding to death
- Suffocation has been up as an alternative as well
Stabbing, strangulation and suffocation gives, as far as I have been able to figure out, clear indications on the cause of death that is not easily mistanken for other causes.
If it turns out be the same for bleeding, which I still wonder, then the question arises, did she actually die? I mean, if all possible ways of death will show in various ways, and none does, she can't be dead
We'll just have to wait and see what the coroner says, when it comes to trial, I'll guess. With the info given so far, and the facts I've found, I will put my money on the bleeding. I also think this is what fits best with what we have learned about PM.