2016-11-17, 23:18
  #565
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Tror inte utrikesministerposten är särskilt högt prioriterad av Trump med hans urtypiska smått nationalistiska "bry oss om oss själva - skita i andra politik". Trump vill väl helst ägna sig så lite som det bara går åt det utrikespolitiska, visst har han t.o.m. sagt så?

Vad han har sagt är mindre intressant. Det han sa under valkampanjen var ju bara för att vinna.

Om Romney blir utrikesminister så är det ju ett ganska normalt val. Han kommer nog inte att stå för någon extremt isolationistisk politik.
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2016-11-18, 03:02
  #566
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Michael Flynn erbjuds posten som National Security Advisor:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/us/politics/donald-trump-administration.html?action=Click&contentCollection =BreakingNews&contentID=64554915&pgtype=Homepage&_ r=0
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2016-11-18, 04:26
  #567
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Jag vet inte riktigt vad man ska tro om Flynn. Han har gjort uttalanden om att han vill se förbättrade relationer och samarbete med Ryssland, vilket är bra. Men samtidigt verkar karl'n tyvärr vara spritt språngande galen, vilket är mindre bra. För bara några månader sedan skrev han följande:

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We’re in a global war, facing an enemy alliance that runs from Pyongyang, North Korea, to Havana, Cuba, and Caracas, Venezuela. Along the way, the alliance picks up radical Muslim countries and organizations such as Iran, al Qaeda, the Taliban and Islamic State.

That’s a formidable coalition, and nobody should be shocked to discover that we are losing the war.

If our leaders were interested in winning, they would have to design a strategy to destroy this global enemy. But they don’t see the global war. Instead, they timidly nibble around the edges of the battlefields from Africa to the Middle East, and act as if each fight, whether in Syria, Iraq, Nigeria, Libya or Afghanistan, can be peacefully resolved by diplomatic effort.

This approach is doomed. We have real enemies, dedicated to dominating and eventually destroying us, and they are not going to be talked out of their hatred.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/09/the-military-fired-me-for-calling-our-enemies-radical-jihadis/

Om man på allvar tror att USA hotas av en allians som består av Nordkorea, Kuba, Venezuela, Iran, al-Qaida, talibanerna och IS hör man hemma på dårhus och inte i Vita huset.
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2016-11-18, 08:36
  #568
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Newt Gingrich says he will not be in Trump Cabinet

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article115388678.html
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2016-11-18, 11:19
  #569
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Den som vill bilda sig en uppfattning om precis hur galen Michael Flynn är kan titta på den här diskussionen, där Flynn lägger ut texten om USA:s fiender tillsammans med den neokonservativa extremisten Michael Ledeen (som skrivit en bok, The Field of Fight, tillsammans med Flynn):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECWtpHiPIXg

Ledeen berättar om hur det ligger till medan Flynn nickar instämmande:

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We're fighting an alliance of radical Muslims and radical secularists. And they're in cahoots. They work together and their fundamental objective is to rule the world which requires eliminating us. So we are their prime candidate and it extends from radical Muslim countries like Iran and radical Muslim movements like ISIS and al-Qaeda and so forth all the way to people who are certainly not radical Muslims, Putin, North Korea, Cuba, so forth. These are people who are not radical Muslims but there's an alliance between them and the Jihadis. That's what we're fighting.
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Senast redigerad av Stabskapten 2016-11-18 kl. 11:39.
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2016-11-18, 11:46
  #570
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Här lovordar Donald Trump galningen Flynns galna bok The Field of Fight:

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I highly recommend the just out book - THE FIELD OF FIGHT - by General Michael Flynn. How to defeat radical Islam.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/756697615509688320

I boken hävdar Flynn bland annat att tredje världskriget redan pågår:

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We're in a world war, but very few Americans recognize it, and fewer still have any idea how to win it.

Och att inte bara Ryssland, utan även Kina, ingår i den ondskefulla islamistallians som USA krigar mot:

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This administration has forbidden us to describe our enemies properly and clearly: they are Radical Islamists. They are not alone, and are allied with countries and groups who, though not religious fanatics, share their hatred of the West, particularly the United States and Israel. Those allies include North Korea, Russia, China, Cuba, and Venezuela.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/read-excerpt-lt-gen-michael-flynns-field-fight/story?id=40465022
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Senast redigerad av Stabskapten 2016-11-18 kl. 11:58.
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2016-11-18, 12:29
  #571
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Ryssvänlige islamofoben Michael Flynn blir Trumps nationella säkerhetsrådgivare

Hur kommer denne trestjärnige general att förändra/påverka USAs utrikespolitik?
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Michael Flynn, Trump’s new national security adviser, loves Russia as much as his boss does

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn was fired from his last job in the military, sat next to Russian President Vladimir Putin after giving a paid speech in Moscow, called for Hillary Clinton to be imprisoned, and said President Obama was a “liar” with no plan for defeating ISIS.

As of Thursday, there’s something new to say about him: Flynn will be moving into the West Wing as President-elect Donald Trump’s national security adviser.

The move will immediately make Flynn one of the most powerful people in the US government and give him enormous influence over the Pentagon, State Department, and CIA — the very organizations he clashed with publicly and privately during his final years in uniform.
http://www.vox.com/2016/11/17/13673280/mike-flynn-trump-new-national-security-adviser-russia-isis-obama-clinton-turkey
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Flynn har kallat islamofobi ”rationellt
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/usa-valet/islamofobisk-general-aktuell-for-toppjobb-hos-trump/
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Senast redigerad av BautaCera 2016-11-18 kl. 12:40.
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2016-11-18, 12:41
  #572
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Här lovordar Donald Trump galningen Flynns galna bok The Field of Fight:



I boken hävdar Flynn bland annat att tredje världskriget redan pågår:



Och att inte bara Ryssland, utan även Kina, ingår i den ondskefulla islamistallians som USA krigar mot:



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/read-excerpt-lt-gen-michael-flynns-field-fight/story?id=40465022

Så med andra ord, så menar Flynn att USA måste gå i öppet krig med Ryssland och Kina?

Där vart Flynn en dåre, en farlig sådan i mina ögon
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2016-11-18, 12:59
  #573
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Så med andra ord, så menar Flynn att USA måste gå i öppet krig med Ryssland och Kina?

Där vart Flynn en dåre, en farlig sådan i mina ögon


Flynn fick sparken från Obamas maffia för att ha sagt att USA inte har vunnit kriget mot al qaida utan måste fortsätta.


Jag tror du vet vem som hade rätt idag, när vi tittar runt om i världen.
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2016-11-18, 13:09
  #574
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Så med andra ord, så menar Flynn att USA måste gå i öppet krig med Ryssland och Kina?

Nej, det menar han inte:

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Flynn himself allows that in some areas, it's possible for the U.S. to cooperate with Russia in the larger war against radical Islam.
In this sense, the authors are not really arguing that America should be in a shooting war with all of the countries that don't like America, and with radical Islam. Instead, they call for a kind of two-track approach. On the battlefield, they call for more tactical alliances with regional countries against the Islamic State and al Qaeda. But another component is a political war. Specifically, they say the next president should wage an ideological campaign to discredit both radical Islam, but also the dictatorships that oppose the west.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-07-11/michael-flynn-s-all-out-war-on-terror

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Flynn would basically be a neocon if he stuck with his core argument: tyrannies of all stripes are arrayed against the United States so the United States should destroy them. But some tyrannies are less worthy of destruction than others. In fact, Flynn argues there’s a category of despot that should be excluded from his principle, the “friendly tyrants” like President Abdel-Fatah el-Sissi in Egypt and former president Zine Ben Ali in Tunisia. Saddam Hussein should not have been toppled, Flynn argues, and even Russia could become an “ideal partner for fighting Radical Islam” if only it would come to its senses about the threat of “Radical Islam.” Taken alone, these arguments would make Flynn realist, not a neocon.

The book thus offers two very different views of how to exercise American power abroad: spread democracies or stand with friendly strongmen. Neither is a sure path to security. Spreading democracy through the wrong means can bring to power regimes that are even more hostile and authoritarian; standing with strongmen risks the same. Absent some principle higher than just democracy or security for their own sakes, the reader is unable to decide between Flynn’s contradictory perspectives and judge when their benefits are worth the risks.

It’s strange to find a book about strategy so at odds with itself. Perhaps the dissonance is due to the co-authors’ divergent views (Ledeen is a neocon and Flynn is comfortable dining with Putin.)

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2016/07/19/realist-or-neocon-mixed-messages-in-trump-advisors-foreign-policy-vision/

Snacket om en allians ska man inte tolka allt för bokstavligt för övrigt:

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"When it is said that Russia would make an ideal partner for fighting Radical Islam, it behooves us to remember that the Russians haven't been very effective at fighting jihadis on their own territory, and are in cahoots with the Iranians. In Syria, the two allies have loudly proclaimed they are waging war against ISIS, but in reality the great bulk of their efforts are aimed at the opponents of the Assad regime," Flynn and Ledeen write.

But all of this raises questions about the central theme of "Field of Fight," that countries like Russia are in an alliance at all with radical Islam. If the Russians have fought ineffectively against jihadis, are we also to believe they are in an alliance with them? When I spoke with Flynn over the weekend, he said why he chose to call it an alliance: "It was a simpler way to explain the relationships."

So what binds these countries and movements together, then? The authors say the countries and revolutionary movements in this alliance share a fondness for totalitarianism, and perceive America as their chief threat. In this sense it's similar to how Stalin and Hitler had a brief pact in World War II.

"The countries and movements that are trying to destroy us have worldviews that may seem to be in violent conflict with one another," they write. "But they are united by their hatred of the democratic West and their conviction that dictatorship is superior."

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-07-11/michael-flynn-s-all-out-war-on-terror
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2016-11-18, 13:09
  #575
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Michael Flynn erbjuds posten som National Security Advisor:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/us...=Homepage&_r=0

Det handlar ju bara om rykten som vanligt. Mike Flynn har varit med Donald Trump hela tiden. Trumps väljare vill ha Flynn, så han kommer troligtvis att få en hög post, men man kanske skall vänta på vad Trump själv säger.
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2016-11-18, 13:18
  #576
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Nu säger Bloombergs:


Bloomberg Politics @bpolitics

JUST IN: Jeff Sessions has been chosen for Attorney General by Donald Trump, sources say http://bloom.bg/2fb8yDd


https://twitter.com/bpolitics/status/799584191927226368
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