Himmlers tal i Poznan

The October 4 speech: Critical parts retyped

David Irving testified at the Ernst Zundel's Holocaust trials in 1988 that "In October, 1943, Heinrich Himmler, the chief of the SS, delivered two speeches, one to the SS generals and one to the Gauleiters - the Nazi party district chiefs, the governors of the districts." Irving had examined the transcripts of the speech and other archival materials... I arrived at the very strange discovery when I looked at the transcript of both those speeches that those two pages had been retyped at some other date. I can't say whether it was retyped before or after the bulk of the speech, but they had been typed by a different secretary on a different typewriter using different carbon paper. Obviously you only discover this if you look at the original documents which the average historian is not patient enough to do. They had been retyped and they had been repaginated in pencil at that point and I have to say to preempt your question, I have no explanation why. It just raises the fact that a document -- if a document has been retyped at a key point, then I hold that document to be suspect."[15]

"Irving pointed out that what was contained in these pages "changes very much the essence of the speech, depending on whether it is an authentic transcript of the speech or whether that has been tampered with for some reason...I don't think we need to know the motives of people tampering with speeches. It is sufficient for historians to look at a document and say 'This document has been tampered with'; for him then to say, 'In that case, I must set it aside.'""[15]

The revisionist Jürgen Graf has written that "There are no original texts of the speeches. Himmler is allegedly supposed to have had the text of these (and other) speeches written down later with a typewriter -- for whom? For posterity? To ensure that posterity would finally possess unequivocal proof of a Holocaust? As noted by the British historian David Irving, the critical passages, i.e., the passages which "prove the Holocaust", were inserted later, as may be seen from the different indentations on the pages concerned (25)."[16]

The October 6 speech: Critical parts retyped

See the corresponding section on the October 4 speech.

In addition to his, regarding the October 6 speech Irving at the 1988 trial also testified that "that he was unhappy because of the tampering which had occurred with this page of the transcript of the speech. He continued: "...this isn't just any page...I suppose it is probably the most important page of the most important speech in the whole of the Holocaust history, and this page, of all pages, when we look at it, turned out to have been tampered with.""[15]

Furthermore, Irving has testified that critical pages have been retyped in later speeches by Himmler (May 5, 1944 and May 24, 1944 speeches). In the Irving v. Lipstadt trial Irving's theory regarding the motivation for the retyping (Himmler concealing the Holocaust from Hitler) was criticized. However, the retyping itself was not denied.[25][26]

Thus, four speeches are stated to all have the critical parts "retyped":

The October 4, 1943 speech at Posen
The October 6, 1943 speech at Posen
The May 5, 1944, speech at Sonthofen
The May 21, 1944 speech at Sonthofen

These speeches are considered to be among the most important evidence for the Holocaust (or to be the most important evidence). In contrast, the December 16, 1943 speech at Weimar and the June 21, 1944 at Sonthofen are not among these "retyped" speeches. All of these speeches have a number of similarities regarding the statements on Jews and on partisans. However, in the not "retyped" speeches it is clear that Himmler is speaking about killing partisans/partisan relatives and is not speaking about killing Jews in general (see the sections "The Einsatzgruppen" and "The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising").

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Posen_s...iegfried_Engel

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/.../argument.html
http://www.cwporter.com/ausrottung.htm
https://holocausthistorychannel.word...ius-streicher/
https://holocausthistorychannel.word...ain/Ausrottung

I korthet: Finns en mängd exempel från denna tid på att Ausrottung inte betyder mord.

Se också detta:
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Posen_s..._party_program

Om man ska börja citera andra uttalanden kan man nämna detta av Himmler med en ordentlig källa: "The Jewish question in Europe has completely changed. The Führer once said in a Reichstag speech: If Jewry triggers an international war, for example, to exterminate the Aryan people, then it won’t be the Aryans who will be exterminated, but Jewry. The Jews have been resettled outside Germany, they are living here, in the east, and are working on our roads, railways etc. This is a consistent process, but is conducted without cruelty."" Bad Tölz on November 23, 1942 (Smith/Peterson 1974, p. 200).

Eller dessa:
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/World_W...st_revisionism

I övrigt inga vettga argument