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En intressant artikel om Dr. Richard Gardner - fadern till PAS.

http://leadershipcouncil.org/1/pas/RAG.html
Han har ju en del intressanta åsikter - papparörelsens Husgud, eller vad sägs om;

Gardner on therapy with children who are sexually abused by their father

• Keep the child connected to the abuser

Special care should be taken not alienate the child from the molesting parent. The removal of a pedophilic parent from the home "should only be seriously considered after all attempts at treatment of the pedophilia and rapprochement with the family have proven futile."

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 537)

The child should be told that there is no such thing as a perfect parent. "The sexual exploitation has to be put on the negative list, but positives as well must be appreciated"

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 572)

• Tell the child that sexual abuse by a father is normal



Older children may be helped to appreciate that sexual encounters between an adult and a child are not universally considered to be reprehensible acts. The child might be told about other societies in which such behavior was and is considered normal. The child might be helped to appreciate the wisdom of Shakespeare's Hamlet, who said, "Nothing's either good or bad, but thinking makes it so."

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 549)

"In such discussions the child has to be helped to appreciate that we have in our society an exaggeratedly punitive and moralistic attitude about adult-child sexual encounters"

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 572).

Gardner on mothers who discover that their husband is sexually abusing their child

Gardner blames the father's abuse on the mother, who he faults for not fulfilling her husband sexually. He suggests that therapists should help mother's of incest victims achieve sexual gratification.

• Discourage litigation.

• Encourage her to stay with her husband (the abuser)

• Blame her and the daughter for the sexual abuse by the father

"It may be that one of the reasons the daughter turned toward the father is the impairment of the child's relationship with the mother" (pp. 579-80)

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 585)

• Help her get over her anger at her husband for sexually abusing their child.

"If the mother has reacted to the abuse in a hysterical fashion, or used it as an excuse for a campaign of denigration of the father, then the therapist does well to try and "sober her up".... Her hysterics ... will contribute to the child's feeling that a heinous crime has been committed and will thereby lessen the likelihood of any kind of rapproachment with the father. One has to do everything possible to help her put the "crime" in proper perspective. She has to be helped to appreciate that in most societies in the history of the world, such behavior was ubiquitous [i.e., everywhere], and this is still the case."

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 576-7)

"Perhaps she can be helped to appreciate that in the history of the world his behavior has probably been more common than the restrained behavior of those who do not sexually abuse their children."

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 585)

• Encourage her to become more sexually responsive to her husband.

"Her increased sexuality may lessen the need for her husband to return to their daughter for sexual gratification."

"Verbal statements about the pleasures of orgastic response are not likely to prove very useful. One has to encourage experiences, under proper situations of relaxation, which will enable her to achieve the goal of orgastic response."

"One must try to overcome any inhibition she may have with regard to [the use of vibrators]."

"Her own diminished guilt over masturbation will make it easier for her to encourage the practice in her daughter, if this is warranted. And her increased sexuality may lessen the need for her husband to return to their daughter for sexual gratification."

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 585)

Gardner on fathers who sexually abuse their children

• Tell him what he did his normal

"He has to be helped to appreciate that, even today, it [pedophilia] is a widespread and accepted practice among literally billions of people. He has to appreciate that in our Western society especially, we take a very punitive and moralistic attitude toward such inclinations. He has had a certain amount of back (sic) luck with regard to the place and time he was born with regard to social attitudes toward pedophilia."

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 593)

He has had bad luck with regard to the place and time he was born with regard to social attitudes toward pedophilia. However, these are not reasons to condemn himself.

Gardner, R.A. (1991). Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 119)

• Keep him in the home

The removal of a pedophilic parent from the home "should only be seriously considered after all attempts at treatment of the pedophilia and rapprochement with the family have proven futile"

Gardner, R.A. (1991). Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 119)

• Help him protect himself

"He must learn to control himself if he is to protect himself from the Draconian punishments meted out to those in our society who act out their pedophilic impulses."

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill , NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 585-592)

• Help him forget about it

Therapy with the father should not be spent focusing on the primary problem (I.e., sexual molestation). Instead, therapy should be spent "talking about other things" as the goal of therapy is "to help people forget about their problems"

Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 585-592)

PAS är ju i sin ursprungliga tanke en väldigt otrevlig historia och inte alls bara en fråga om man kan påverkar barn. Att man kan påverka barn är ju självklart.

Joakim försvarar ju våldtäktsmän och pedofiler och ligger därför i riktningen att vara en otrevlig historia. Det är något märkligt med Daddys Sverige, vem ska de försvara? De som är pedofiler och våldtäktsmän verkar ligga Joakim varmt om hjärtat.

För er som inte sett videon jag syftade på i mitt tidigare inlägg finns den att ses här:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acw_z...ayer_embedded#!

Han efterlyser Rättsäkerhet och är imot godtyckliga domar, samt den typ av pöbelbeteende som bla annat du driver, vet du hur många felaktigt dömda Sverige har ?

Att vara falskt anklagad eller att bli dömd på felaktiga grunder, är nog det värsta som kan hända en människa, det blir inte bättre om ens barn blir drabbade.

HusvagnS

Tråden handlar väl om feminism och jämställdhet och hur utredningar görs och man bedömmer i det fall som trådstartaren tagit upp. Så för mig är det obegripligt att man kan acceptera sjuka teorier om en person och andra som anser att det ligger mycket bakom frågeställningarna TS. har tagit upp.

Många är bara ute efter person och skiter i sakfrågorna.

Se bara förra inlägget.

Leroy

HusvagnS

Tråden handlar väl om feminism och jämställdhet och hur utredningar görs och man bedömmer i det fall som trådstartaren tagit upp. Så för mig är det obegripligt att man kan acceptera sjuka teorier om en person och andra som anser att det ligger mycket bakom frågeställningarna TS. har tagit upp.

Många är bara ute efter person och skiter i sakfrågorna.

Se bara förra inlägget.

Leroy

Husvagn mfl?

Så det är tillåtet att påstå vad som hellst om vem som helst i tråden?



För övrigt är det väl upp till var och en att tolka det man läser som någon skriver. Men att man kan tolka saker fel är uppenbart och varför då inte fråga källan. I stället för att påstå saker om källan.


Leroy

Det är precis den jag menar, han hänger ut sin lilla dotter och skriver följande:

Klickar man vidare på länken DaddyChildSweden: http://www.youtube.com/user/DaddyChildSweden
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