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Lägger ner detta nu då det är OT här och du är helt inkapabel till att hjälpa till för att vi ska komma vidare i tråden och få fram ytterligare info utan bara kommer med "tvärsäkra" besked som inte gäller för alla.
Ber så hemskt mycket om ursäkt för att jag försökt hjälpa till.
Förstår tyvärr inget av vad som sägs men det handlar om Dahlsjö-fallet. "Hymme" och Grodmansrånet. Mycket foton och levande bilder i programmet. Mycket verkar handla om Kjell-Åke. Känns konstigt att se hans namn skrivas med dessa främmande bokstäver. Är det ryska som talas?
Efter diverse trixande med YouTubes browserversion (tack Sculley for tips!) fick jag fram en engelsk översättning av det ryska transkript som YouTube autogenererar - bitvis är det svårt att förstå, men det är ju inte så konstigt eftersom det ju är algoritmer som varit i farten (Översättningen till svenska blev totalknas, så jag gav upp det helt.)
Jag postar resultatet här i två delar.
Del 1:
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[music]
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July 29, 1965 one of the brightest
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days in the city's criminal history
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heteburg
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this day was marked by the only
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unsolved mass disappearance
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sweden it was windy and rainy thermometer
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showed from his 12 degrees but young
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guy khel
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oki johansson told his mother that
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planning a trip to the nature of the village
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isak south of town last him
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seen in a blue volvo with his
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acquaintances gay carlson and me olof
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dossier
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they weren't best friends
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but all three worked at the shipyard and
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and made a living doing
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various kinds of work Gothenburg is a port
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the city and in those days it was from there and
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Sweden exported timber and
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famous Swedish steel has passed over
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fifty years old but the guys never
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returned earlier that day in town
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there was a major bank robbery and these
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two events over time tried
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tie together
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at 14 hours 15 minutes to one of the banks
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cities with an unpronounceable name
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three robbers broke in
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one of them guarded the passage two others
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fled the hall the criminals shot the air and
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forced employees and customers to lie on
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gender-clad women's clothing with light on
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riverside and bosom burglar
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jumped over the counter and headed
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k himself among the bank's clients turned out to be
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former athlete wrestler he chose the moment
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and attacked disguised as a woman
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a criminal from behind as a result of a fight
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he accidentally shot himself in the leg
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having stolen about 18 thousand crowns and
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loss of the form of a shot in the limb
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the criminals hurried to hide
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they ran towards the river which
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are less than 100 meters from the bank
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after reaching her the gang took off their clothes
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revealing diving suits underneath them by
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followed them in pursuit
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bank employees they threw at the robbers
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stones and stopped the chase only then
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when the criminals started shooting back
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the original plan failed however
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when the accomplice of the robbers awaiting them
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mo tommy boats threw them and ran when he heard
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shots two swam across the river and
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fled and the one that was wounded was forced
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was hiding in the water while the shore
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was searched by the police, he was ultimately
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caught and then the remaining three
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they all turned out to be Hungarian citizens with
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time there were rumors that a raid on
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the bank was the first step towards something much
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more of which many others are involved
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it turned out that this is the same group
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who may have been someone else
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was going to set fire to two tankers with
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petroleum products that should have
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about to arrive at the port would rise
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panic and taking advantage of the universal
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a commotion the criminals planned
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rob the vault of another bank
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also believed that possibly criminals
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raised money to organize a whole
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coup d'etat
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Hungarians were convicted and sentenced to terms
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from 4 to 6 years old
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one of them was sent
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a psychiatric clinic instead of a prison
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conclusions
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now back to the guys' personalities
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who disappeared in the same city in this
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same day
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presumably all three left for
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camping in a village in the suburbs on
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blue Volvo model 1956
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the car belonged to the registration
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number 01 8920 however the guys disappear
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and everyone noticed at different times and
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filed a statement with the police with a large
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delay
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sometimes even in a few years initially
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the police did not consider disappearing
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each of them as interrelated and
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events but let's talk about everything in order 1
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from the missing gel oki johansson he was
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16 years old in sixty-five
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some time before disappearing maximum
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Johansson lived with his brother for 6 8 weeks
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Gothenburg but brothers in the unknown
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reasons quarreled and perhaps even
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got into a fight
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Johansson decided to move out to
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parents and younger brother and sister
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living in another area of ??the city but
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I didn’t go there often and my mother said
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about his disappearance only after
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a few days 3 August 65 at the moment
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disappearing he was not married but only
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that he became the father of a child to his girlfriend with
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which they were going to move in one
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Johansson's fateful day for some
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reason refused to go to work
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what surprised his loved ones mothers a lot
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he said that he had a day off and that
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he only got to work in a couple of days
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the media reported
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that he went upstairs but never
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got there anyway after it
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disappearances
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his work shoes were found in
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hallway at home in autumn mama johansson a
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threw out this pair with the words we can
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buy him new ones when he comes back at
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it was about 100 SEK
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cash
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but the passport remained at home after a while
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time for the name of the guy received funds from
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tax refund and had to take them
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his mother Johansson is described by relatives
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like a quick-tempered but easy-going person
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kind animals and those whom he knew well
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this year before he disappeared, he also did not
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disappeared for a long time and when he showed up at home
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stated that he was beaten by the police all
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his back was covered with bruises
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they also said that several times her
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Hansen was arrested for drunkenness
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perhaps in one of these arrests he and
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was beaten by the police when a girl
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Johansson and got pregnant it came as a shock
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for his family and for himself but not
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left the child and over time
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were going to live together at first guy
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hoped to borrow money from the laptop's mother
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they were not there and johannes she had
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take care of how to keep
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yourself and your newborn son second
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the young man from the company is iambic catch
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then he was 21 at the time
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disappearing he was born into a large family
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but wanted by his relatives
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was only 10 years later
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because each of them thought that
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someone else has applied
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the volvo car that disappeared
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the trinity belonged to him he lived on
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one street with johansson am the last time
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he was seen on the morning of July 28
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then he was wearing a brown suit
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blue and socks and black shoes to work
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he brought along an extra pair of pants
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I left my passport at home and did not take it either
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your employer's last salary
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according to the testimony of witnesses
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he spent all day at work that night
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he was seen at a small get-together with
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friends then the next day he
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did not go to work and never went home
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returned he was described as calm and
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restrained friendly guy, however,
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he had small clashes with the police in
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past sagadas of these events further
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one year served in the army in the infantry
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combat school where he was trained
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to limit business he was a close friend 3
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missing
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and his name is gay roger carlson he was 23
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of the year
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and unlike other guys at karlsson
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had a house of his own he was engaged to
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by a woman named Ivan is also rumored
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he was the father of another woman's child but
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never formally registered
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as a father the day when three
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missing it was seen in the center
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employment of the population at about eight in the morning
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Carlson and a few other people smoked
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outside the institution at the same time next to
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they stopped a red truck with
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driver 40 50 years driving driver
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asked the guy to help him with loading
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works since Carlson was
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physically unusually strong
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happy to turn up a job
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and jumped the truck followed by the car
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the witnesses could not have disappeared for sure
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remember it was 28 the day before the disappearance
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or is it still the 29th, but after that
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Carlson has never been seen Carlsen was
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he only had sisters an orphan one
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a childless married couple whose
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lived for several years wanted
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officially establish it himself
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did not want he served in the army acquired
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car and got drunk
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get into an accident with him
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there were fellow travelers who were injured
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for this incident as well as for theft earlier
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Karlsin was arrested
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describe him as kind but somewhat
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gullible man when a carlsson
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gone
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his younger sister became worried and
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decided to visit the one at his house door
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discovered by an unknown man
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this young man was dressed in his beloved
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jumpers and brother moreover sister
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I recognized this jumper also because
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knitted it myself
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and gave Carlson who opened the door
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the young man looked worried and
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said that he had not seen her brother and did not know
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where he is, he advised her
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look for him in pubs
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in one of the city districts after many
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years old
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sister seeing pictures in newspapers
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could identify that sweater guy as
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Johansson and this visit took place about
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August 10, it is curious that no further
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Carlson did not have a driver's license
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however, the car was driven by Carlson and then about
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who actually owned the car
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usually sat in the passenger seat and
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it was assumed that he was a bad driver
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the same day a student artist
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horner catch alexis lundqvist 22 years old
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disappeared in the same area
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he was never familiar built and on
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blue into a lion and in those days traveled
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alone in sweden and his disappearance
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father told the Stockholm police where
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lone quest nicknamed gem lived with
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by their parents and twin brother
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Father evert lung foliage famous
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professor
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art mom was a gem artist too
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inherited artistic knowledge
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he studied the interest of his parents
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the art looked attractive and
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was very popular with
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girls at the time of disappearance, he was not
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married and had no children the family rented
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for gem summer house where did he study here
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creativity that day in the interval from 8
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in the morning until 3 pm the game left the cottage and
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hitchhiked geode abortion like
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the rest of them do not have passports
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were seventy eighty or one hundred
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CZK cash central station he
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sent a postcard to his parents on it
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written in handwriting i'm in kidburg
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everything is fine, do not worry
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the postcard had a stamp with the date of July 29
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1965 year
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Gothenburg when it became known about
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the disappearance of another young
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man in the vicinity of geode eburg
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suggested that the trinity on volvo
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picked up a young artist on the road and
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responded to his request
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toss it to a particular location
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all together they could have had an accident and
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drown in some body of water
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in the vicinity of the city were investigated
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numerous bodies of water but blue
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the car was not found in them either
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assumed that the guys witnessed
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criminal gang shenanigans robbed
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in the afternoon the bank was removed as random
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witnesses
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however, there is no data that could
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would confirm these theories Swedish
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writer and vaculine berg studied
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the events of July 29 and wrote a whole book about
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they, according to her, disappeared that day
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the guys could have been involved in the robbery
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and had to disappear because they knew
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talked too much that sometimes
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guys all of a sudden
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large sums of money appeared on hand
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however, she does not think that friends are from kyoto
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burga
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has anything to do with the young
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an artist who supposedly
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disappeared on the same day most
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contemporaries who followed this story
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were sure that 4 guys disappeared
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gem artist is nothing more than coincidence
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game suffered from mental illness
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and was known
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various nervous disorders he
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self-medicated using
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psychotropic drugs on their own
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choice and misha them with alcohol preferring
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wine suggests that in those days he
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Valium was used by doctors at that time very
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generously prescribed this medicine
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a few years later, one of the sailors
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he said he met a bima on a ship in
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Asia also said that he was seen in
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australia singapore
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although this evidence remains
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unconfirmed regarding
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robbers then their further fate
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formed a different accomplice on the boat
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left the country after serving his sentence
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disguised as a woman and a wounded leg
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stayed to live an ordinary life in the same
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city ??after leaving prison for a couple of years
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he stayed in sweden and then left
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unknown direction 3 which stood
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on the lookout left the other end of the country and
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graduated from university and got married he did
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good career in sweden 4 which of
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the planned robbery became successful
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politician
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May 65, a ship from Singapore
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stopped at the port of Gothenburg one of
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sailors walked the streets of the city and filmed
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on video scenes of city life
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he recently posted these old entries
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together with the videos removed
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and in other cities on the video captured
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the street where the owner of the same
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volvo and moreover we see it ourselves
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a car that in a couple of months
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these random
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the frames that most likely fell on
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the most car volvo
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all that we have left today is understanding
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what
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about such a long-standing business of information too
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few but what are your intuitive guesses
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were these guys associated with
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bank robbery that happened in the same
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day or still not had some
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attitude to everything artist lundqvist
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hitchhiker in those days
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please write your ideas in
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Stort tack Sephram för översättningen till engelska.
Vad som förvånar mig är att ryssar har fattat intresse för detta fall. Det trodde jag inte att de skulle göra med tanke på deras egen kriminalhistoria. Behöver ju inte vara själva Ryssland utan kan ju också vara Ukraina eller Vitryssland. Gruppen som har gjort videon har arbetat en hel del och då troligtvis har de utgått från det som finns på engelska. Finns en hel del foton medtagna samt en del från filmen som den österrikiske sjömannen filmade i maj 1965. Just detta avsnitt där man ser en mörk Volvo stå parkerad utanför där Dahlsjö bodde på Haga Östergata har tagits med. Det har diskuterats tidigare om denna ev. skulle ha kunnat vara den midnattsblå.
Lär inte vara många gamla svenska fall som uppmärksammas i dessa länder.
Det där kändes litet som att leta nål i höstack. Du har inte hört ngt från den du mötte som skulle kika i folkbokföringen i Nl? Ditt engagemang är beundransvärt!
Det där kändes litet som att leta nål i höstack. Du har inte hört ngt från den du mötte som skulle kika i folkbokföringen i Nl? Ditt engagemang är beundransvärt!
Javisst är det så men vad skall man göra?
Nej jag har inte hört något från den holländske mannen jag träffade och skulle jag mot förmodan göra det så har han nog inget av intresse att berätta. Det enda sättet, som jag ser det, att kunna få det med säkerhet bekräftat från myndigheter och slippa det evinnerliga tjatet om "att kört ner i vattnet och drunknat" går via Dahlsjö och hans liv i Holland.
”Under torsdagen hittade byggarbetare ett inmurat skelett i en fasad på Fjärde Långgatan.
Polisen kopplades in för att undersöka skelettdelarna.”
” Vi vet inte i nuläget om det är från en människa eller från ett väldigt stort djur. Det har tidigare varit ett krematorium så det är lite mystiskt, säger Fuxborg.”
”Under torsdagen hittade byggarbetare ett inmurat skelett i en fasad på Fjärde Långgatan.
Polisen kopplades in för att undersöka skelettdelarna.”
” Vi vet inte i nuläget om det är från en människa eller från ett väldigt stort djur. Det har tidigare varit ett krematorium så det är lite mystiskt, säger Fuxborg.”