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2007-01-03, 16:18
  #1
Medlem
Tänkte köra en deca kur på 10v

v1-10 400 mg deca - EW
v1-4 20 mg dbol - ED
v1-10 clomid 25mg ED
v11-14 clomid 50mg ED

Vad tycker ni?
Citera
2007-01-03, 20:26
  #2
Medlem
Deca-dick är att vänta men det vet du väl redan?
Citera
2007-01-03, 20:43
  #3
Medlem
k0nsls avatar
Lika bra att köra 14 veckor när du ändå håller på. Och varför inte köra en HRT/TRT dos av testosteron för att hålla igång Lille-Petter-Niklas?
Citera
2007-01-04, 02:48
  #4
Medlem
Alladins avatar
Hade skitit i clomiden vecka 1-10.
Citera
2007-01-04, 03:05
  #5
Medlem
k0nsls avatar
A jädrar. Det hade jag också gjort.

Kör hellre Arimidex, Letrozole eller Vitamin B6. En låg dos Letrozole och Vitamin B6 skulle nog vara optimalt.
Citera
2007-01-04, 03:57
  #6
Bannlyst
Vad gör vitamin B6 tillsammans med Arimidex/Letro?
Citera
2007-01-04, 04:01
  #7
Medlem
k0nsls avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av deca-up-ur-azz
Vad gör vitamin B6 tillsammans med Arimidex/Letro?

Det sänker progestron.
Citera
2007-01-04, 04:11
  #8
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av gigalo
Tänkte köra en deca kur på 10v

v1-10 400 mg deca - EW
v1-4 20 mg dbol - ED
v1-10 clomid 25mg ED
v11-14 clomid 50mg ED

Vad tycker ni?

Skit i clomiden v1-10

påbörja PCT på tredje veckan då deca sitter i systemet ca 2-3v efter avslut

v 1-10 deca EW
v 13-18 PCT Dvs du påbörjar pct på tredje veckan efter kuravslut.

och kom ihåg att deca kan synas i drogtester i upp till 18 månader efter avslut
Citera
2007-01-04, 04:20
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Medlem
k0nsls avatar
Lite mer angående Vitamin B6 ifrån Anthony Roberts (anthony-roberts.com):

Citat:
Vitamin b6 isn't a great idea to include on a cycle. Elevated levels of b6 will inhibit androgen gene transcription levels by 30-45%. Gene Transcription is how steroids exert their effects. Therefore, if you elevate your b6 too high, you could be getting around a third less of the effects from the steroids you're taking.

Vitamin B6 modulates transcriptional activation by multiple members of the steroid hormone receptor superfamily.
  • Allgood VE,
  • Cidlowski JA.


Department of Physiology, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 27599-7545.
Recent studies have shown that vitamin B6 modulates transcriptional activation by the human glucocorticoid receptor in HeLa S3 cells. We have now examined the possibility that vitamin B6 might similarly influence transcriptional activation by the glucocorticoid receptor in other cell types, as well as gene expression mediated by other members of the steroid hormone receptor superfamily. We show that elevated vitamin B6 concentrations suppress by 40-65% the level of transcription mediated through the endogenous murine L cell glucocorticoid receptor, as well as the human receptor transfected into E8.2 and T47D cells. In contrast, glucocorticoid receptor-mediated transcription was enhanced 60-110% in mild vitamin deficiency. The level of hormone-independent constitutive gene expression was not affected by these same alterations in vitamin B6 concentration. These studies indicated that the transcriptional modulatory effects of the vitamin were neither restricted to specific cell types nor limited to the human form of the glucocorticoid receptor. We next determined if hormone-induced transcription by several other steroid receptors (androgen, progesterone, and estrogen receptors) was analogously affected by alterations in vitamin B6 concentration. Analysis of gene expression mediated through the mouse mammary tumor virus promoter revealed that transcriptional activation of both the androgen and progesterone receptors was reduced by 35-40% under conditions of elevated vitamin B6 and enhanced by 60-90% in deficiency, again under conditions where constitutive expression was unaffected. Using a different promoter, the estrogen-regulated vitellogenin promoter, we found that transcriptional activation of the estrogen receptor was similarly affected. Estrogen-induced gene expression was reduced by 30% under conditions of elevated intracellular vitamin B6 and enhanced by 85% in vitamin deficiency. Thus, vitamin B6 modulates transcriptional activation by multiple classes of steroid hormone receptors. The similarities in vitamin B6 effects on transcription mediated through different promoters, the mouse mammary tumor virus and vitellogenin promoters, suggest that this vitamin may modulate the expression of a diverse array of hormonally responsive genes. These observations together support the hypothesis that vitamin B6 represents a physiological modulator of steroid hormone action.
PMID: 1310983 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Basically, a dose high enough to fight prolactin or progesterone is going to be high enough to inhibit androgen gene-transcription. I'd say you should keep it no higher than 50mgs, at most.

Och (ifrån en annan källa):

Citat:
** Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) overdose, toxicity, side effects

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Vitamin B6 is usually safe, at intakes up to 200 mg per day in adults. However, vitamin B6 can cause neurological disorders, such as loss of sensation in legs and imbalance, when taken in high doses (200 mg or more per day) over a long period of time. Vitamin B6 toxicity can damage sensory nerves, leading to numbness in the hands and feet as well as difficulty walking. Symptoms of a pyridoxine overdose may include poor coordination, staggering, numbness, decreased sensation to touch, temperature, and vibration,; and tiredness for up to six months.

Där ser man
Citera
2007-01-04, 04:27
  #10
Medlem
k0nsls avatar
Vitamin B6 sänker också prolaktin nivåerna. Man vill ju inte börja laktera
Citera
2007-01-04, 09:12
  #11
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Razer
Deca-dick är att vänta men det vet du väl redan?

Det finns en chans att han får deca-dick menar du antar jag
Citera
2007-01-04, 21:56
  #12
Medlem
Hahahahaah, det var ett jävla skitsnack om deca dick på det här forumet, varför skulle han få det för på 400mg/V, han kommer fömodligen inte få mera slapp dick än om tar något annat prepp.

Decadickk är ju kraftigt överdrivet, men går du upp i gramdoser börjar det bli problem och då finns det HCG.

PÅ 400mg deca lär det inte behövas något som sänker prolaktinninåer eller progesteron, det går åt en jävla omgång innan man får problem med sånt.


Då är ju D-bolen mycket riskablare för aromatiseringen Osv.
Citera
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