2025-05-15, 02:34
  #685
Medlem
theUFOsummoners avatar
U.S. media outlets: 'Jaime Maussan is owed an apology over Nazca Mummies confirmation'
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/w...77c8b4628.html

After more American scientists got involved in the Nazca Mummies case, it appears they might not be a hoax after all
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Nazca Mummies obfuscation from Peru and others

Despite the criticism, Jaime Maussan and all of his colaborators stuck to their guns and made another two presentations of the mummies. One was in Los Angeles and another one in Peru, both were controversial and suffered setbacks but the one in South America presented the first batch of American scientists led by Dr. John McDowell. That wasthe first acknowledgement from the English-speaking sicnetific community that these bodies were at least worth investigating. Since these bodies were presented in 2017, there have been efforts from UFO researchers to obfuscate and deem these bodies as an ellaborate hoax perpetrated by Maussan. But there is now proof that these researchers were not shown the real evidence and data. They were presented with fake constructed dolls, very similar to some of the specimens.

(Artikeln r lngre, detta r ett urklipp.)
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All existerande forskning antyder att Mumierna r verkliga.

Skeptikerna har hela tiden hngt sig fast vid de falska kroppar som presenterats fr att frvrida detta mne.
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2025-05-15, 11:45
  #686
Medlem
SnakePlissskens avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av theUFOsummoner
U.S. media outlets: 'Jaime Maussan is owed an apology over Nazca Mummies confirmation'
https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/w...77c8b4628.html

After more American scientists got involved in the Nazca Mummies case, it appears they might not be a hoax after all
--------------------------------

Nazca Mummies obfuscation from Peru and others

Despite the criticism, Jaime Maussan and all of his colaborators stuck to their guns and made another two presentations of the mummies. One was in Los Angeles and another one in Peru, both were controversial and suffered setbacks but the one in South America presented the first batch of American scientists led by Dr. John McDowell. That wasthe first acknowledgement from the English-speaking sicnetific community that these bodies were at least worth investigating. Since these bodies were presented in 2017, there have been efforts from UFO researchers to obfuscate and deem these bodies as an ellaborate hoax perpetrated by Maussan. But there is now proof that these researchers were not shown the real evidence and data. They were presented with fake constructed dolls, very similar to some of the specimens.

(Artikeln r lngre, detta r ett urklipp.)
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All existerande forskning antyder att Mumierna r verkliga.

Skeptikerna har hela tiden hngt sig fast vid de falska kroppar som presenterats fr att frvrida detta mne.
Du lnkar en ett r gammal artikel baserad p Maussans egna vinklade pstenden som John McDowell kraftigt motsagt. Han har aldrig ens underskt de sm mumierna som Maussan antyder - han underskte bara ngra av de mnniskostora figurerna som han ansg kunde vara mnniskorester. De sm mumierna har han avfrdat som nnu fler frfalskningar av Maussan o co - de kan aldrig ha levt.

the US team did not examine the smaller mummies and that Maussan is grossly misrepresenting McDowell by implying his comments refer to both types of mummy - even naming Victoria.
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2025-05-15, 14:43
  #687
Medlem
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Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av theUFOsummoner
All existerande forskning antyder att Mumierna r verkliga.


McDowell:
Please understand that we know the "Nazca Mummies" you have sent images of were never living entities composed of the hard tissues of one and only one "species." It would be foolish to state that these "bodies" could represent individuals that could have been alive let alone capable of walking, flying or swimming. Please do not infer that we said otherwise.

As any reputable, competent scientist would do, we maintain a high level of skepticism regarding the "Nazca Mummies."
John McDowell
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2025-05-17, 04:17
  #688
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av SnakePlisssken
McDowell:
Please understand that we know the "Nazca Mummies" you have sent images of were never living entities composed of the hard tissues of one and only one "species." It would be foolish to state that these "bodies" could represent individuals that could have been alive let alone capable of walking, flying or swimming. Please do not infer that we said otherwise.

As any reputable, competent scientist would do, we maintain a high level of skepticism regarding the "Nazca Mummies."
John McDowell

Din skeptikerhatt blir tyvrr inte mer trovrdig fr att du;

1. Klipper och klistrar frn Metabunk.org (utan att ange det)
2. Inte studerar kllan mer noga
3. Inte jmfr med existerande material som R uppdaterad.

Hela inlgget frn Metabunk r felaktigt och anvnder - frutom ett helt phittat brev - felaktigt klippta citat, som inte verensstmmer med kllan.

Det antyder att du r helt ointresserad av fakta och fljer en frutbestmd agenda att "debunka" eftersom det underlag du anvnder r uppenbart felaktigt.

Det r ju bara att lyssna sjlv direkt frn John McDowell (2024-04-27):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOXa...eDocumentaries

"...The specimens are real."
"...There are some that are clearly not humanjust let me put it that way."
"...There are humanoid characteristics... but osteology, bone analysis, and teeth analysis show variance."

Hr, ger Joshua McDowell en mer aktuell summering (2025-03-14):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-smZYeRhsag

"They are real, you knowflesh and bone bodies... What these bodies are is the big question and that's why the mystery remains."

"The fingerprints are not consistent with human fingerprints... They're mostly straight instead of loops, whorls, and arches."

"Maybe we are looking at something that's brand new... like a platypusvery strange, unexpected features. Up until they were researched, people thought they were stitched together."

"Monserrat is pregnantthere is a fetus in her womb. Thats a very interesting thing. Weve looked at the CTs... and she certainly does have a fetus."

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Att en av kropparna r bevisat gravid hade varit en sensationell vrldsnyhet i en sund vrld.
Detta projekt har attackerats av debunkers i tta r och det enda man lyckats med r att frska lura vrlden med hoplimmade dockor som ALLA forskare i teamet redan identifierat som falska. Att Peruvianska ministeriet inte tillter vidare forskning pminner om Egyptens kulturministerie som inte vill forska under pyramiderna.

Objektiva analyser i bda fallen pvisar data som helt ritar om mnsklighetens historia.

NAZCA MUMMIES R VERKLIGA och tillhr en helt annan intelligent art n mnniskan och kommer mjligen inte frn Jorden (eftersom Placeringen av foramen magnum, benttheten och de symmetriska avvikelserna stmmer inte verens med jordens evolutionra mnster och inga andra liknande kroppar har hittats).

De passar drutver ihop med de Nazca Linjer som portrtterar kilometerlnga "mlningar" som bara kunnat gjorts av en intelligens som kunde flyga.

Petroglyfer i omrdet portrtterar i mnga fall varelser med 3 fingrar. Vilket sammantrffande....

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Det vore kul, om du FR EN GNGS SKULL kunde ge mig en intellektuell utmaning. Du gr det s ltt fr mig att debunka dig.
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2025-05-17, 06:46
  #689
Medlem
SnakePlissskens avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av theUFOsummoner
Din skeptikerhatt blir tyvrr inte mer trovrdig fr att du;

1. Klipper och klistrar frn Metabunk.org (utan att ange det)
2. Inte studerar kllan mer noga
3. Inte jmfr med existerande material som R uppdaterad.

Hela inlgget frn Metabunk r felaktigt och anvnder - frutom ett helt phittat brev - felaktigt klippta citat, som inte verensstmmer med kllan.

Det antyder att du r helt ointresserad av fakta och fljer en frutbestmd agenda att "debunka" eftersom det underlag du anvnder r uppenbart felaktigt.

Det r ju bara att lyssna sjlv direkt frn John McDowell (2024-04-27):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOXa...eDocumentaries

"...The specimens are real."
"...There are some that are clearly not humanjust let me put it that way."
"...There are humanoid characteristics... but osteology, bone analysis, and teeth analysis show variance."

Hr, ger Joshua McDowell en mer aktuell summering (2025-03-14):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-smZYeRhsag

"They are real, you knowflesh and bone bodies... What these bodies are is the big question and that's why the mystery remains."

"The fingerprints are not consistent with human fingerprints... They're mostly straight instead of loops, whorls, and arches."

"Maybe we are looking at something that's brand new... like a platypusvery strange, unexpected features. Up until they were researched, people thought they were stitched together."

"Monserrat is pregnantthere is a fetus in her womb. Thats a very interesting thing. Weve looked at the CTs... and she certainly does have a fetus."

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Att en av kropparna r bevisat gravid hade varit en sensationell vrldsnyhet i en sund vrld.
Detta projekt har attackerats av debunkers i tta r och det enda man lyckats med r att frska lura vrlden med hoplimmade dockor som ALLA forskare i teamet redan identifierat som falska. Att Peruvianska ministeriet inte tillter vidare forskning pminner om Egyptens kulturministerie som inte vill forska under pyramiderna.

Objektiva analyser i bda fallen pvisar data som helt ritar om mnsklighetens historia.

NAZCA MUMMIES R VERKLIGA och tillhr en helt annan intelligent art n mnniskan och kommer mjligen inte frn Jorden (eftersom Placeringen av foramen magnum, benttheten och de symmetriska avvikelserna stmmer inte verens med jordens evolutionra mnster och inga andra liknande kroppar har hittats).

De passar drutver ihop med de Nazca Linjer som portrtterar kilometerlnga "mlningar" som bara kunnat gjorts av en intelligens som kunde flyga.

Petroglyfer i omrdet portrtterar i mnga fall varelser med 3 fingrar. Vilket sammantrffande....

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Det vore kul, om du FR EN GNGS SKULL kunde ge mig en intellektuell utmaning. Du gr det s ltt fr mig att debunka dig.
Vad menar du? Jag skrev ju att han underskt de stora mumierna och ansg att de innehller kta mnniskorester (sen kan nn frsts frvanskat hnderna till trefingriga etc - hnderna har ju till och med brjat falla snder och tappa delar sen mumierna upptcktes.). Det han vnder sig emot i det citerade brevet (som du av outgrundlig anledning pstr r frfalskat) r Maussans pstenden att han ven underskt de sm mumierna och funnit att dessa skulle vara kta.
Maussan r en bedragare och lgnhals helt enkelt.

the US team did not examine the smaller mummies and that Maussan is grossly misrepresenting McDowell by implying his comments refer to both types of mummy - even naming Victoria.

Den som fulklipper citat r ju du sjlv - McDowell sger i sjlva verket tydligt att de mumier han underskt r mnskliga, eller tminstone mnniskolika (till skillnad frn andra av Maussans mumier som r uppenbara frfalskningar).
The specimens that we've examined - some people are calling them bodies, mummies, I'm going to call them specimens, the specimens are real[lists the analyses that were done previously on the large mummies]... These are human or human-like, the ones that I've evaluated. There are some that are [pauses, shakes head] clearly not human, just let me put it that way.
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