2018-06-18, 08:09
  #50617
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Ursprungligen postat av Ev1ld1ck
US-led coalition strikes Syrian army positions in Deir ez-Zor province – SANA

Jänkare skyddar sina gunstlingar igen....

https://www.rt.com/news/430046-syria-army-positions-strike/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notifications& utm_campaign=push_notifications

Härligt med lite gammal hederlig amerikansk krigsförbrytelse att börja måndagen och veckan med! Enda som saknas är några atombomber och lite napalm.
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2018-06-18, 10:13
  #50618
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Tillssons avatar
Uppgifter om att SAA fått "grönt ljus" för sin insats i Daraa. Återstår att se om det stämmer. Borde väl i så fall vara Ryssland som lobbat med Israel.

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Syrian Army’s southern Syria offensive appears to get green light as elite troops deploy to Daraa

Lavrov sa den 30 maj att alla utländska styrkor borde lämna gränsen Israel-Syrien. Detta har tolkats som en signal till Iran.

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Russia: All non-Syrian Forces Should Leave Israel-Syria Border ASAP
Russia's position has been changing since Israel's attack on Iranian positions in Syria in early May

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-armys-southern-syria-offensive-appears-to-get-green-light-as-elite-troops-deploy-to-daraa/

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/russia-all-non-syrian-forces-should-leave-israel-syria-border-asap-1.6133493
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2018-06-18, 11:39
  #50619
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smaug20017s avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Tillsson
Uppgifter om att SAA fått "grönt ljus" för sin insats i Daraa. Återstår att se om det stämmer. Borde väl i så fall vara Ryssland som lobbat med Israel.



Lavrov sa den 30 maj att alla utländska styrkor borde lämna gränsen Israel-Syrien. Detta har tolkats som en signal till Iran.



https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-armys-southern-syria-offensive-appears-to-get-green-light-as-elite-troops-deploy-to-daraa/

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/russia-all-non-syrian-forces-should-leave-israel-syria-border-asap-1.6133493
Iran tar inte order från Ryssland när dom plöjer ner motsvarande 6 Miljarder Dollar per år till Dr Sandneger. Länken nedan som jag har postat tidigare, ser likadan ut då som nu, där iranska och Hezbollah soldater gömmer sig inom "syriska divisioner"
https://mobile.twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/1003336753976152064
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2018-06-18, 12:51
  #50620
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Hopes.N.Dreamss avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av clutchshooter
Härligt med lite gammal hederlig amerikansk krigsförbrytelse att börja måndagen och veckan med! Enda som saknas är några atombomber och lite napalm.
De förnekar ansvar för attacken.

När USA bombat har de medgett det.

Sedan har jag svårt att se hur det skulle vara en krigsförbrytelse? Det är stridande vi pratar om och inte civila.
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2018-06-18, 12:55
  #50621
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arbetets avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Hopes.N.Dreams
De förnekar ansvar för attacken.

När USA bombat har de medgett det.

Sedan har jag svårt att se hur det skulle vara en krigsförbrytelse? Det är stridande vi pratar om och inte civila.
Vi väntar på ett medgivande:

Syria: Raqqa in ruins and civilians devastated after US-led ‘war of annihilation’
From 6 June to 17 October 2017, the US-led Coalition operation to oust IS from its so-called “capital” Raqqa killed and injured thousands of civilians and destroyed much of the city. Homes, private and public buildings and infrastructure were reduced to rubble or damaged beyond repair.

Residents were trapped as fighting raged in Raqqa’s streets between IS militants and Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighters, supported by the Coalition’s relentless air and artillery strikes. IS mined the escape routes and shot at civilians trying to flee. Hundreds of civilians were killed: some in their homes; some in the very places where they had sought refuge; and others as they tried to flee.

US, British and French Coalition forces carried out tens of thousands of air strikes and US forces admitted to firing 30,000 artillery rounds during the offensive on Raqqa. US forces were responsible for more than 90% of the air strikes.

“A senior US military official said that more artillery shells were launched into Raqqa than anywhere since the Viet Nam war. Given that artillery shells have margin of error of over 100 metres, it is no surprise that the result was mass civilian casualties,” said Donatella Rovera.
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2018-06-18, 12:59
  #50622
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Hopes.N.Dreamss avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av arbetet
Vi väntar på ett medgivande:

Syria: Raqqa in ruins and civilians devastated after US-led ‘war of annihilation’
From 6 June to 17 October 2017, the US-led Coalition operation to oust IS from its so-called “capital” Raqqa killed and injured thousands of civilians and destroyed much of the city. Homes, private and public buildings and infrastructure were reduced to rubble or damaged beyond repair.

Residents were trapped as fighting raged in Raqqa’s streets between IS militants and Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighters, supported by the Coalition’s relentless air and artillery strikes. IS mined the escape routes and shot at civilians trying to flee. Hundreds of civilians were killed: some in their homes; some in the very places where they had sought refuge; and others as they tried to flee.

US, British and French Coalition forces carried out tens of thousands of air strikes and US forces admitted to firing 30,000 artillery rounds during the offensive on Raqqa. US forces were responsible for more than 90% of the air strikes.

“A senior US military official said that more artillery shells were launched into Raqqa than anywhere since the Viet Nam war. Given that artillery shells have margin of error of over 100 metres, it is no surprise that the result was mass civilian casualties,” said Donatella Rovera.
När det blir fel, så medger dom det, likt fallet i Deir ez zor.
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2018-06-18, 13:06
  #50623
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arbetets avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Hopes.N.Dreams
När det blir fel, så medger dom det, likt fallet i Deir ez zor.
Vi väntar på att några nu ställs inför rätta för krigsbrott i Raqqa eller att man åtminstone medger detta, vilket aldrig kommer att ske. Här är annars rykten som surrar runt idag. Stämmer det här så lär inte irakierna vara glada över USA vilket iofs inte är första gången:


Within Syria
‏ @WithinSyriaBlog

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According to my sources, a UCAV of the US-led coalition targeted a gathering of Iraqi and Syrian fighters in the area of al-Hirri while they were on a break watching Brazil and Switzerland match.

https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1008658988291035136

Edit:

Jo, det blev lite fel.
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2018-06-18, 13:11
  #50624
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Hopes.N.Dreamss avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av arbetet
Vi väntar på att några nu ställs inför rätta för krigsbrott i Raqqa eller att man åtminstone medger detta, vilket aldrig kommer att ske. Här är annars rykten som surrar runt idag. Stämmer det här så lär inte irakierna vara glada över USA vilket iofs inte är första gången:


Within Syria
‏ @WithinSyriaBlog



https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1008658988291035136

Edit:

Jo, det blev lite fel.
Din informationskälla baseras på info från ett tweet. Det säger allt.

Du väntar på att amerikaner ställs inför rätta men inte Assadregimens massmördare och gasälskare? Mycket konsekvent.
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2018-06-18, 13:20
  #50625
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arbetets avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Hopes.N.Dreams
Din informationskälla baseras på info från ett tweet. Det säger allt.

Du väntar på att amerikaner ställs inför rätta men inte Assadregimens massmördare och gasälskare? Mycket konsekvent.
Jag sa att det var ett rykte och inget annat. När Assad-regeringen bombar städer till grushögar helt utan att ta hänsyn till civila som USA gjort i Raqqa och Mosul, då kan vi börja snacka.
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2018-06-18, 13:20
  #50626
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humanlifes avatar
Några länder börjar mjukna när det gäller kravet på Assads avgång, säger Ryssland. Tack vare de militära framgångarna för Syrien. Men den illegala närvaron av utländsk militär fortsätter.
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Russian diplomat says some countries softening stance on Assad’s resignation
"The Syrian government’s military accomplishments in the war on terror and efforts to promote the political settlement of the Syrian crisis have prompted the external forces involved in it to think about choosing their line for the future," Zakharova said. "We have been receiving signals on softening stances by a number of countries, which earlier demanded Assad’s resignation and regime change in Syria."

According to Zakharova, illegitimate military presence in Syria continues. "Attempts to set up parallel government agencies in the areas controlled by external forces continue," she noted. "The US-led coalition tends to divide terrorists into ‘bad’ and ‘not very bad’ ones. This approach is not conducive to finding a political solution and stabilization, pose a threat to Syria’s territorial integrity and preserve the potential for conflict."

More:
http://tass.com/politics/1009688
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2018-06-18, 13:25
  #50627
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arbetets avatar
Det är alltid intressant att ta in andras synpunkter på saker och ting, speciellt från de verkligt kunniga och insatta. Joshua Landis som inte är en Assadist lämnar här några kommentarer över Irans roll i Syrien och regionen, men först en presentation:
Joshua Landis is Director of the Center for Middle East Studies and Professor at the University of Oklahoma’s College of International Studies.

He writes “Syria Comment,” a daily newsletter on Syrian politics that attracts over 100,000 readers a month. Dr. Landis travels frequently to Washington DC to consult with government agencies and speak at think tanks. Most recently he has spoken at the Woodrow Wilson Institute, Brookings Institute, USIP, Middle East Institute, and Council on Foreign Relations.

He was educated at Swarthmore (BA), Harvard (MA), and Princeton (PhD). He has lived over 14 years in the Middle East and speaks Arabic and French fluently. He has lived four years in Syria, and spent most summers in Damascus until the revolution began.

He is a frequent analyst on TV and radio. (See: Landis in the News) Most recently he has appeared on PBS News Hour,
http://www.ou.edu/cis/ias/faculty/joshua-landis

Här är Twitter-ranten:


Joshua Landis
‏@joshua_landis
1. The presumption undergirding the "Syria debate" - that Iranian influence is "malignant" & bad for Iraq, Syria and Lebanon - is misguided. By trying to rollback Iran, the US does more harm than good. US occupation of N. Syria & renewed sanctions are bad alternative. Read thread

2. Most important: what was the alternative to Iranian influence in the Levant? We must & can only presume the alternative would have been a victory of the Syrian opp, backed by KSA/Qatari. How would this possibly be better for the people of the region, the US, or even Israel?

3. What would a Saudi/Qatari victory look like? The alternative in 2015 was a Nusra/ISIS victory. This is why Russia intervened on Assad's side. It wanted to preclude such an eventuality: ISIS taking Damascus. Listen to John Kerry explain why RU intervened

4. Iran is a more developed nation than the KSA. It has a broad & varied middle class that is by all accounts quite pro-American, skilled and has a lot to offer the region, probably more than does the Gulf.

5. This is the 1st time in mod history that the entire north tier of Mid East countries share good relations. Potential for development is immense. Gas & oil pipelines stretching from Iran to the Med: pilgrims, roads, tourists, commerce criss-crossing a region that was at war.

6. Iran is indispensable for the restoration of the region’s economy. Only Iran is capable of supporting the level of rebuilding needed after these years of war.

7. With redoubled U.S. and E.U sanctions, region is now crippled economically. West straining to stop reconstruction of any kind. US blocking highways from Damascus to Amman or to Baghdad. Stopping commerce with Lebanon.

8. By reimposing crippling sanctions on Iran, the only beneficiaries will be the hard-liners in government and the corrupt elite. Ordinary Iranians, who have so much to offer the region, will seek to emigrate.

9. What is the U.S. likely to offer the region? Not much, it must be argued. Raqqa and Mosul are the poster children of U.S. engagement in reconstruction activities. It is not promising:

10. The Kurds are beginning to despair the US can or will protect them in the long run or pay 4 reconstruction. They have reached out to Syr gov. U.S. should facilitate the reunification of Syria, rather than seek to turn it into a quagmire for Iran.

11. All the countries of the region are suffering b/c the US has cut off trade and sanctioned Iran & Syria. Lebanon is cut off from its natural hinterland in Syria. Jordan has exploded in demonstrations b/c of economic hopelessness. Both need trade w Syria. So does Iraq.

12. Those who argue that Iran is a "malignant" force and dooms the future of the region must explain what the alternative is. Today, the US & the KSA do not offer a good alternative. They propose only sanctions and continued war by other means.

13. Many Iranian, Iraqi & Syrians pray for better governments, less corruption & greater freedoms. But the change that is being planned in Washington is unlikely to bring prosperity or reform. Only economic growth will lead to internal change & greater liberalism in the long run.

14. Israel can look after itself in Syria. It's military is far superior to Iran's. Few believe it cannot draw red-lines to contain Iran in Syria. Better for US to provide Israel w help to limit Iran activity close to Golan, than have US troops sucked into Syria occupation.

15. Using the presence of the fairly inconsequential Liwa Al Baqir militia in Syria that is Iran backed & has verbally threatened U.S. troops to justify a much larger and deleterious U.S. policy in the region does not see the forest for the trees.

16. Washington should allow the governments of the region to rebuild. It should allow a new regional balance of power to emerge between Iran, KSA, Turkey & Israel without a heavy US military presence. The US should not seek to turn Syria into a quagmire for Iran and Russia.

17. The US can do much humanitarian good in the region by its example, by helping refugees, & by guiding a new balance of power that limits war & preserves region peace, reconciliation, & recovery
https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/100866135069448864
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2018-06-18, 13:34
  #50628
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Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Hopes.N.Dreams
De förnekar ansvar för attacken.

När USA bombat har de medgett det.

Sedan har jag svårt att se hur det skulle vara en krigsförbrytelse? Det är stridande vi pratar om och inte civila.

Sedan när är USA och SAA stridande parter mot varandra? Eftersom dom officiellt inte är det så är det att klassas som anfallskrig från USA vilket är ett krigsbrott.
Men det är som alltid med USA, ljuger som vanligt om att dom är där 'bara' för att kriga mot IS.
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