Jag flyttar alltså över diskussionen om cyanvätegas till den tråd där den hör hemma, och påminner den liberale inkvisitorn

om de fakta han tydligen lyckats missa.
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"(Fråga) 30. Hur lång tid tar det att helt ventilera ett område som gasats med Zyklon-B?
IHR skriver:
Normalt ungefär 20 timmar. Hela proceduren är extremt komplicerad och teknisk. Gasmasker måste användas och endast välutbildade tekniker arbetar.
Nizkor svarar:
Nej så är det inte. Siffran "20 timmar" är irrelevant av en mängd olika skäl.
Vederläggning av Gutmans ovetenskapliga fantasier om ventilationstid i bårhuslokalerna (för mer detaljerad redogörelse för ventilationskapaciteten, se Mattognos Auschwitz: The End of a Legend, som länkas till i inlägg 1111):
http://www.vho.org/cgi-bin/perlfect/search/search.pl?q=delousing%20procedures&showurl=%2FGB%2 FBooks%2Fdth%2Ffndgcger.html
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"---The following shall help explain a somewhat complex mathematical concept. Imagine, if you will, that someone is given a bucket containing 100 blue balls. Each time he reaches into the bucket, he puts in one red ball, briefly mixes the contents and, without looking, takes out one randomly selected ball. How often will he have to do this until only 50 blue balls are left in the bucket and all the others are red? Clue: assuming that he has already replaced half of all the blue balls with red ones, what is the chance that in blindly taking out another ball he will take out a red one instead of a blue one, thus defeating his purpose, i.e., the intended exchange? This is the sort of problem that arises in ventilating a room, when stale and fresh air mix. It means that it takes considerably longer to successfully ventilate a room than is generally assumed. In the case described above, it takes an average of 70 exchanges before half the blue balls have been replaced by red ones.[136]
Calculations have shown that the ventilation facilities in the alleged 'gas chambers' of crematoria II and III in Birkenau - facilities designed only for ventilation of ordinary mortuaries - could have performed at most 6 to 8 air exchanges per hour.[137] Due to the poor system configuration (inlet right above outlet) and the alleged overcrowding of the room with bodies, half an hour would never have sufficed to achieve harmless levels of hydrogen cyanide following a gassing, even if there had been no Zyklon B still releasing gas for hours on end. The eyewitness testimony claiming adequate ventilation after 20 to 30 minutes in mortuaries 1 of crematoria II and III are thus not credible.[138]
This pertains all the more for crematoria IV and V as well as for the sinister Farm Houses (Bunkers) which could have been aired out only via one or two doors. Since they are said to have been equally crammed full of bodies, with the Zyklon B scattered among them, the ventilation time would have been at least one day, the same as was required for ordinary room disinfestations.[139] What is more, ordinary rooms would allow for the removal of the Zyklon B, and generally have windows to facilitate ventilation and are not packed with bodies. Eyewitness testimony telling of work performed without the benefit of gas masks in these 'gas chambers' immediately or shortly after the gassing is thus utterly unbelievable. And even if the workers had worn gas masks - carrying the corpses would have been hard work (causing perspiration! cf. Section 3.1.), and in these rooms high in hydrogen cyanide any such work would have been extremely risky due to the potential for poisoning via the skin.---"
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"Om uttalandet om "20 timmars ventilation" ovan var sant, skulle det betyda att liken efter folk som avrättats med cyanidgas i de amerikanska gaskamrarna skulle vara tvungna att sitta kvar fastspända i stolen 20 timmar efter sin avrättning.---"
Tjollerprat, det tillämpas där sofistikerade tekniska metoder för att oskadliggöra den extremt farliga gasen:
http://www.vho.org/cgi-bin/perlfect/search/search.pl?q=rudolf%20explosion%20risk&showurl=%2FG B%2FBooks%2Ftrr%2F1.html
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"The method used in American execution gas chambers was introduced in 1924, and has since been improved to technical perfection. The expense to kill just one single person is tremendously high, since neither the witnesses, nor the prison personnel or the environment may be endangered by the poison gas released for such an execution. Re-inforced-glass windows, massive, heavy, hermetically-sealed steel doors, powerful ventilation systems with a device to burn the evacuated poisonous gases, and a chemical treatment of the chamber interior to neutralize all remaining traces of the poison make this execution method the most a cumbersome of all.[8]"
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"Det var viktigt att ventilera gaskamrarna fort för att snabbt kunna börja ta ut kropparna och kremera dem -- det var det som tog mycket tid. Själva ihjälgasningen tog bara några få minuter.---"
Vilken kvantitet och halt av cyanvätegas menar du då var standardprocedur i Birkenaus bårhuslokaler, på ett ungefär? (Hypotetisk fråga, givetvis, ställd med tanke på att du fullt och fast tycks tro på myten utan att redigt kunna beskriva tillvägagångssättet.) Att ventilationen inte gick att genomföra på det sätt du låtsas är ju helt uppenbart om man beaktar vilka ventilationssystem som verkligen existerade (och i Krema IV och V fanns inga fläktar överhuvudtaget).
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(Förresten, 8-10 gram per kubikmeter avser koncentrationen för att utrota löss och andra insekter, inte människor. Däggdjur dör av en mycket lägre koncentration och mycket kortare exponeringstid).
Dock tar det bevisligen ofta 10-15 minuter, ibland längre tid, innan en fånge i en amerikansk gaskammare dukar under för en halt av cyanvätegas som är omkring tio gånger så hög som den teoretiskt för människor dödliga (3000 ppm i de amerikanska faciliteterna). Frågan är alltså vilken halt du påstår begagnades i Birkenau, och varför inga tydliga spår av dessa uppenbarligen massiva doser, dag efter dag efter dag, finns i form av järncyanidavlagringar i murbruket?
Om de verkliga desinfektionskammarna och skådeprocessen mot Tesch och Stabenow, Zyklon B-tillverkarna (hela Lindseys text anbefalles, jag citerar endast en av noterna):
http://www.vho.org/cgi-bin/perlfect/search/search.pl?q=lindsey%20barracks&showurl=%2Faaargh%2 Ffran%2Ftechniques%2Flindsey.html
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"---The development of the Zyklon B fumigation chamber spanned the two World Wars, and depended almost entirely upon the danger of epidemics from lice-carried spotted typhus. These chambers were therefore known and referred to as "hydrogen cyanide delousing chambers" ("Blausaeure-Entlausungs-kammer"). Faced with the absolute necessity of such chambers and a lethal fumigating agent (always in short supply) in wartime, the DEGESCH delousing chamber was designed. It provided for the safe introduction of the sealed Zyklon B can of the required size for the volume of the fumigating chamber. The entry port was sealed airtight and the can opened by an externally-operated screw which pierced the soldered can inside the sealed chamber, allowing the Zyklon B granules to fall onto a heated surface (the "Vergasergeraet" ["Gasifier"] or "stove," in the jargon of the "Holocaust" disciples), assuring the evaporation of the liquid hydrogen cyanide from the granules. A circulatory fan circulated the air / Zyklon B mixture within the chamber to mix the gases. This prevented gas stratification, since Zyklon B gas is lighter than air (not heavier, as so often erroneously stated or implied by the "Holocaust" propagandists), and made certain that the required mixture of 20g. of Zyklon B per cubic meter of air penetrated throughout the entire fumigation chamber, including the clothing articles to be deloused. With the circulation fan, the fumigation could be completed in one hour. Without such a system, the entire procedure required at least 16 hours -- preferably 24 hours. After fumigation, the circulation system exhausted the poisonous mixture up a stack and aired the fumigated clothing before the airtight doors to the chamber were opened and the deloused, fumigated clothing removed to be reclaimed by its owners. The advantages of such chambers were obvious and substantial. By the Summer of 1943, 552 Zyklon B fumigation or delousing chambers with circulation systems had been constructed at 226 different sites. One hundred more had been constructed without circulation systems and were being used despite the longer fumigation time. Almost half these delousing chambers were constructed between January 1942 and April 1943. The munitions industry had 249 such chambers either in regular operation or under construction, since in the Summer of 1943 it became obligatory to inspect foreign workers regularly for the duration of the war to insure that they were and remained free from vermin. (Emil Wuestinger, "Vermehrter Einsatz von Blausaeure-Entlausungskammern," ["Increased Usage of Hydrogen Cyanide Delousing Chambers"], Gesundheits-Ingenieur, Jahrgang 67, Heft 7, pp. 179-80.)---"
Friedrich Berg om samma ämne, de faktiskt existerande avlusningsfaciliteterna:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p-73_Berg.html