[WW2] - Auschwitz

DR. KAUFFMANN: And during that time, hundreds of thousands of human beings were sent to their death there. Is that correct?
HOESS: Yes.
DR. KAUTFFMANN: Is it true that you, yourself, have made no exact notes regarding the figures of the number of those victims because you were forbidden to make them?
HOESS: Yes, that is correct.
DR. KAUFFMANN: Is it furthermore correct that exclusively one man by the name of Eichmann had notes about this, the man who had the task of organizing and assembling these people?
HOESS: Yes.
DR. KAUFFMANN: Is it furthermore true that Eichmann stated to you that in Auschwitz a total sum of more than 2 million Jews had been destroyed?
HOESS: Yes.

"You told us that you would be willing to sign this," he said. Höss studied the document, then stammered, "Ja ... aber ..."

"But?"

"Na ja, you see here," Höss began, "da stimmt was nicht," and pointed to a word on the second line.

"Something wrong?" Booth asked, raising his voice ever so slightly.

"Ja, right here," Höss replied softly running his finder across the pages as he read. "It says here that I personally arranged the gassing of three million persons between June 1941 and the end of 1943."

"Well, isn't that what you told us earlier?"

"Nein. I'm afraid not." Höss sounded almost annoyed. "I told you earlier that only two million were gassed. The others died of other causes,"

Höss sade följande inte till v.Krosigk, som jag trodde, utan till en viss v.Schirmeister:

http://vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/7/4/Faurisson389-403.html

The few witnesses statements we have, however, claim that several kilograms of Zyklon B were used.[469] In his book, Pressac frequently refers to a HCN concentration of 12 g per m3 or 1 vol.% used for executions.[470] He backs this up with many witness accounts, according to which four to six 1-kg cans of Zyklon B were allegedly poured into the 'gas chambers' (morgues) of crematorium II and III, which indeed corresponds to a concentration of 1 vol.%.[302]---"

"---The supply figures of the Auschwitz camp can be found in the protocols of the International Military Tribunal Nuremberg. In total, they reached some 19,000 kg during the years 1942 and 1943.[157] The total supplied amount during the entire existence of the camp from late 1940 to early 1945 will hardly have exceeded 40 tons. According to Pressac's statement that not 2-5% of this was used for killings, 800 to 2,000 kg of the total delivery was used for extermination of humans.

But when dividing up this amount of Zyklon B for one million people allegedly killed with it, with 1,000 victims per gassing-the 'gas chambers' (morgues I) of crematorium II and III could hardly hold 1,000 persons per execution-only roughly 0.8 to 2 kg HCN was available for each gassing. With the morgues' free volume of roughly 430 m3,[466] and after all hydrogen cyanide had evaporated from the carrier (after more than an hour), 800 to 2,000 g of hydrogen cyanide would result in a theoretical end concentration of 1.86 to 4.65 g per m3, which means that the concentration during the first five or ten minutes was much lower.

If, on the other hand, one million victims were killed according to the eyewitness statements, i.e., with high concentrations in a few minutes, those 1,000 gassing would have required 1,000×20 kg = 20 tons of Zyklon B, or at least 50% of the entire Zyklon B delivery to the camp.

This shows an obvious inconsistency in Pressac's statements. One cannot have both high concentrations during homicidal gassings and a low percentage of the entire Zyklon B delivery to Auschwitz used for these gassings.

Let us now have a closer look at the theory endorsed by J. Bailer,[54] W. Wegner,[49] and G. Wellers,[55] that only a small amount of HCN was used for the killings. In such a case, the concentration reduction due to the respiration of the victims is no longer a negligible quantity.---"

Jag ser gärna att du kommenterar nedanstående stycke också, samt det försök till vederläggning av "låga-doser"-tesen Rudolf gör i textens direkta fortsättning (kritiken av Bailer, Wegner och Wellers):

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/7.html#7.3.1.3.

Two cans of 500g or 1 kg to kill 1.000 people piled up on 105m² corresponds to the introduction of 1 or 2 kg HCN in a volume of 250m³. Before the Nuremburg Tribunal, Höss had stated that it took 6 cans of 1kg (6kg) to gas 1,500. Only the Leichenkeller 1 of crematorium II and III, with 210m² of area and 500m³ of cubic volume, was actually able to contain that human mass. So gas was used according to Bendel at a concentration of HCN from 4 to 8g/m³ and, according to Hoess, one to 12g/m³. A concentration of 0.3g/m³ being enough to kill a man instantly, the quantity indicated by Bendel was 13 to 27 times the lethal dose, the one given by Höss 40 times. These high percentages brought on an “overkill” ensuring a “flash” death.

Slutligen vill jag gärna ha din synpunkt på GWB:s briljanta hypotes om den "mättade lösningen", även känd som socker-i-kaffet-uppenbarelsen.

Dosen kan ha varierat mycket. Här en citat från Pressac:
Det fanns alltså tillräckligt med overkill för att minska doseringen då Zyklon blev svårare att få tag i.

"The supply figures of the Auschwitz camp can be found in the protocols of the International Military Tribunal Nuremberg. In total, they reached some 19,000 kg during the years 1942 and 1943.[157] The total supplied amount during the entire existence of the camp from late 1940 to early 1945 will hardly have exceeded 40 tons. According to Pressac's statement that not 2-5% of this was used for killings, 800 to 2,000 kg of the total delivery was used for extermination of humans.

But when dividing up this amount of Zyklon B for one million people allegedly killed with it, with 1,000 victims per gassing-the 'gas chambers' (morgues I) of crematorium II and III could hardly hold 1,000 persons per execution-only roughly 0.8 to 2 kg HCN was available for each gassing. With the morgues' free volume of roughly 430 m3,[466] and after all hydrogen cyanide had evaporated from the carrier (after more than an hour), 800 to 2,000 g of hydrogen cyanide would result in a theoretical end concentration of 1.86 to 4.65 g per m3, which means that the concentration during the first five or ten minutes was much lower.

If, on the other hand, one million victims were killed according to the eyewitness statements, i.e., with high concentrations in a few minutes, those 1,000 gassing would have required 1,000×20 kg = 20 tons of Zyklon B, or at least 50% of the entire Zyklon B delivery to the camp.

This shows an obvious inconsistency in Pressac's statements. One cannot have both high concentrations during homicidal gassings and a low percentage of the entire Zyklon B delivery to Auschwitz used for these gassings.---"

Jag föreslår att du tar det med GWB. Men man måste ju vara på saft- och kaffe-nivå med er för att ni ska kunna förstå någonting.

It is rare to find a Sonderkommando survivor who is willing to talk about the whole of the period without self censorship of some sort. Filip Müller in his “Trois ans dans une chambre à gaz d’Auschwitz” forgets to say that he survived the selections because he was “protected” by a Sudeten SS man.

Och en följdfråga, som du tyvärr inte kan besvara, är varför dessa massiva doser inte lämnat de spår man kunnat förvänta sig i murbruket:

On September 23, 1944, according to eyewitness testimony, 200 Sonderkommando were taken to the Auschwitz I camp and murdered. The labor force report for October 3 shows a drop from 874 to 661 Sonderkommando.

Tror du förresten att Olère har tecknat "sanningen" med sina eldsprutande krematorier och martyriserade prästnaturer? Van Pelt betraktar tydligen bisarrt nog Olères fantasiteckningar som "bevis", i och med att han refererade till en teckning under Irving-Lipstadt-rättegången för att styrka sin vederlagda tes om "hål i taket" på Krema II och III.

Andra "vittnen" talar också om kilovis med kristalliserad gas. Och det är ju inte som om gasutvecklingen skulle upphöra "inom ett par minuter", all gas som fanns i kristallerna spreds i lokalen, den fuktiga och kalla lokalen, ypperlig för bildandet av berlinerblått, en lokal med en svag ventialtionsanläggning (omkring sju gånger svagare än i desinfektionskammarna, och i Krema IV och V ingen ventilation alls).