För er som undrar över Olof Frånstedt källor och motiv.
Angletons tillförlitlighet i den internationella scenen verkar vara mest ett skämt.
Jallais vändning och snubbeltramp idag får en än mer att undra, är ”Erik” av liknande
karaktär och dignitet som OF källor?
Kolla in det här om ni har missat det, vilket iof på intet sett säger något förutom Franska DGSE
syn på Angleton.
För er som undrar över Olof Frånstedt källor och motiv.
Angletons tillförlitlighet i den internationella scenen verkar vara mest ett skämt.
Jallais vändning och snubbeltramp idag får en än mer att undra, är ”Erik” av liknande
karaktär och dignitet som OF källor?
Kolla in det här om ni har missat det, vilket iof på intet sett säger något förutom Franska DGSE
syn på Angleton.
Här kan man köpa Lennart Ljungs "Legion of Merit" https://www.kuenker.de/ru/archiv/stueck/101538
Han fick den 1986, för "extraordinära insatser", men det flesta av sidorna som berättar om denna historia är borttagna från google, varför?
edit: äh, verkar tvåa på bollen här, det har tydligen andra redan upptäckt.
Lennart Ljung var ÖB från 1 oktober 1978 till 30 september 1986, under den tid då mordet på Olof Palme planerades, förbereddes och utfördes. Hans efterträdare Bengt Gustafsson hade förvånats över hur stor underrättelsebiten var, vilket han fått insyn i när han blev ÖB. Enligt Robert Dalsjö var Lennart Ljung den siste överbefälhavare som kände till det hemliga fredstida samarbetet med NATO och även den som avvecklade samarbetet. Ja, enligt hans doktorsavhandling som väl då åtminstone innehåller en grovt felaktig uppgift.
Fast om man vänder på det, vad var det egentligen som Ljung avvecklade? Ska man läsa det som att han sopade bort spår av ett speciellt samarbete i det kalla krigets slutskede?
Är det någon som känner till den formella motiveringen till att Ljung fick den medalj som tydligen var till salu för 3000 kr i Ryssland 2015?
Lennart Ljung var ÖB från 1 oktober 1978 till 30 september 1986, under den tid då mordet på Olof Palme planerades, förbereddes och utfördes. Hans efterträdare Bengt Gustafsson hade förvånats över hur stor underrättelsebiten var, vilket han fått insyn i när han blev ÖB. Enligt Robert Dalsjö var Lennart Ljung den siste överbefälhavare som kände till det hemliga fredstida samarbetet med NATO och även den som avvecklade samarbetet. Ja, enligt hans doktorsavhandling som väl då åtminstone innehåller en grovt felaktig uppgift.
Fast om man vänder på det, vad var det egentligen som Ljung avvecklade? Ska man läsa det som att han sopade bort spår av ett speciellt samarbete i det kalla krigets slutskede?
Är det någon som känner till den formella motiveringen till att Ljung fick den medalj som tydligen var till salu för 3000 kr i Ryssland 2015?
Det finns ju troll på nätet så man borde nog följa upp proveniensen
för medaljen.
Förtydligande om medaljen . Det är tydligen en tysk sida (känt auktionshus) som har en ryskspråkig variant. Det är också en arkiverad händelse som hände för några år sedan.
Det finns ju troll på nätet så man borde nog följa upp proveniensen
för medaljen.
Svårt värre att kolla upp, så det blir väl en fråga om tro och omdöme. Det som talar emot är det låga priset, men man undrar varför någon skulle förfalska en medalj i hans namn? Min gissning blir att någon ryss var uppmärksam på dödsboets göranden och låtanden efter hans död.
Tänk om priset för att sälja sitt land var 5000 kr?
Svårt värre att kolla upp, så det blir väl en fråga om tro och omdöme. Det som talar emot är det låga priset, men man undrar varför någon skulle förfalska en medalj i hans namn? Min gissning blir att någon ryss var uppmärksam på dödsboets göranden och låtanden efter hans död.
Tänk om priset för att sälja sitt land var 5000 kr?
Rotar man lite har alla hans medaljer sålts, tror det är mycket hög sannolikhet att det är sant.
Priset är inte extremlågt.
Många funderar väl ibland på vad som gick snett med utredningen av Palmemordet och varför det blev som det blev.
Min nuvarande känsla är att både Holmers utredning och Ölvebros utredning mer fokuserade på att fälla någon för mordet än att det blev rätt person , det var viktigare att fälla någon för mordet än att man fällde rätt person för mordet.
Man funderar också på om någon/några kunde leda in utredningen på villospår mm
Det verkar i varje fall finnas mängder med saker och händelser kring mordet som för en utomstående person är svåra att förstå.
Vad hade hänt om man fått Victor Gunnarsson , någon från PKK eller Christer P fälld för mordet
Hade man till exempel kunnat fälla Victor G för mordet hade Holmer kanske blivit hjälteförklarad och diskussionerna skulle ha blivit mindre och tagit slut tidigare .
Förtydligande om medaljen . Det är tydligen en tysk sida (känt auktionshus) som har en ryskspråkig variant. Det är också en arkiverad händelse som hände för några år sedan.
"privata CIA: stratfor skriver en analys av mordet på Mahmoud al-Mabhouh av Mossad
De ger insikter hur ett professionellt mord organiseras:
The assassination of senior Hamas militant leader Mahmoud al-Mabhouh on Jan. 19 is still generating a tremendous amount of discussion and speculation some six weeks after the fact. Dubai's police force has been steadily releasing new information almost on a daily basis, which has been driving the news cycle and keeping the story in the media spotlight. The most astounding release so far has been nearly 30 minutes of surveillance camera footage that depicts portions of a period spanning the arrival of the assassination team in Dubai, surveillance of al-Mabhouh, and the killing and the exfiltration of the team some 22 hours later.
By last count, Dubai police claim to have identified some 30 people suspected of involvement in the assassination; approximately 17 have been convincingly tied to the operation through video footage either as surveillants, managers or assassins, with the rest having only tenuous connections based on information released by the Dubai police. In any case, the operation certainly was elaborate and required the resources and planning of a highly organized agency, one most likely working for a nation-state.
Pre-Operation
While the 22-hour period depicted in the video showcased the tactical capabilities of the various teams, it hardly tells the whole story. In order to pinpoint the location of al-Mabhouh on the day of his killing, the organization responsible for this operation would have had to have tracked al-Mabhouh for months, if not years. This can be done in three ways: technical surveillance, utilization of human sources and physical surveillance.
Technical surveillance of al-Mabhouh would include monitoring his e-mail, telephone calls and other forms of electronic communications such as online credit-card transactions and travel reservations. This could reveal his physical location and future plans, which would allow the assassination team to anticipate his location and prepare well ahead of time. With such a large team involved in the assassination, careful coordination and planned movements would have been required to ensure that all members were in place without attracting attention. But technical surveillance has limitations. An experienced operative like al-Mabhouh (who had been the target of two previous assassination attempts in as many years) would most likely have taken precautions that would have limited his electronic visibility.
The operational team likely used human sources with close ties to al-Mabhouh who could corroborate the information and possibly influence the target's movements, putting him in place for the operation. Human sources could have included al-Mabhouh's colleagues within Hamas or a member of a rival group such as Fatah.
According to Dubai police, physical surveillance was conducted by members of the operational team during al-Mabhouh's previous trips to the United Arab Emirates. Physical surveillance is a critical part of any effective assault (whether it's a clandestine intelligence operation or a car-jacking) because it gives the operatives an opportunity to become familiar with their surroundings and recognize their target in his or her "natural" environment. Once all this homework was done to establish al-Mabhouh's normal routines and determine his approximate location and duration of his stay in Dubai, the intelligence-collection process moved into the deployment phase and an operational team was sent into action.
The Operation
Prior to Mabhouh's arrival, surveillance teams set up in the airport and at different hotels to make sure they could obtain a visual confirmation of their target. Based on their intelligence of his prior trips to Dubai, planners placed teams in two hotels to wait for al-Mabhouh approximately an hour before his arrival. They also had a surveillance team waiting for him at the airport to follow him as soon as he entered the country and report his movements to the rest of the team. While it wasn't captured on video, we suspect that a mobile surveillance group tracked al-Mabhouh from the airport by car.
To help ensure a successful outcome, the operational team used overwhelming force to prevent the target from ever seeing the same face twice. When it was established that al-Mabhouh was staying at the Al Bustan Rotana, the team responded by abandoning their other posts and directing their focus to that hotel. Once al-Mabhouh was identified, the team locked on to him at the hotel and started initiating further steps in the operation. The first surveillance team watched al-Mabhouh register at the front desk and then followed him to his room, noting the target's specific room number. This was relayed to other members of the team, who then placed a reservation for the room across the hall from al-Mabhouh, which gave them direct access to their target. The selection of the room is very interesting for two reasons. First, it was directly across the hall from al-Mabhouh's room, giving the team a perfect spot from which to monitor his movements. Second, the room was just behind the video camera for that floor and the camera was trained on the emergency stairwell exit, which allowed the assassination team to carry out the attack on his room without being filmed.
Meanwhile, down in the hotel lobby, surveillance teams were rotating to monitor the target's movements in and out of the hotel. At one point, a surveillant is seen following al-Mabhouh out to the street to relay by cell phone the type of vehicle he had entered. These surveillants, operating in teams of two, used disguises such as hats, sunglasses, beards and work-out gear to establish a cover for action and better conceal their identities. While many members of the operational team were identified on closed-circuit television (CCTV), hats and sunglasses helped distort their images and reduce the already low risk of being recognized by the target or any protective team during the operation.
According to reports from Dubai police, the cell phones used in the operation were dialed to an Austrian number, likely the operations and support center for the team on the ground and any others involved in the operation. This might have been an open conference line into which all members of the operational team could dial to monitor the movement of their target. It is unlikely that the center was actually in Austria; it probably used a proxy phone line to mask its true physical location.
Assassination and Exfiltration
At approximately 8:30 p.m. on Jan. 19, after al-Mabhouh returned to his hotel room from a meeting, the assassination team moved in. It was important to carry out the killing at a time and in a manner that would give the team the maximum window of opportunity. They suspected that al-Mabhouh was in for the night, which meant that nobody would miss him until early the following afternoon, giving the team ample time to flee the country.
The team carried out the assassination smoothly, with video surveillance showing only two operatives casually talking outside the elevator (a cover for monitoring the hall for possible distractions) — in other words, nothing out of the ordinary. The assassination team members also exhibited no unusual behavior when they departed the scene. Demeanor is extremely important, and the ability of the team to act calmly and naturally and not catch the attention of security guards monitoring CCTV ensured that the act remained a secret until hotel cleaning staff found the body more than 17 hours after the entire team had departed Dubai.
The assassination team also killed al-Mabhouh in a way that apparently confounded medical examiners trying to determine the cause of death, delaying the announcement of a criminal case for nine days. This delay gave the operational team ample time to cover its tracks, possibly by using third- and fourth-country border crossings, additional false identities and safe-houses, making it much harder for Dubai authorities to track team members to their ultimate destinations. This confusion appears to have been created by the use of a muscle relaxant called succinylcholine (also known as Suxamethonium), which, if used in large enough quantities, can cause the heart to stop, making it appear that the victim died of cardiac arrest. The drug also has a very short half-life, meaning that traces would degenerate and virtually disappear shortly after injection, making it ideal for covert operations such as this one.
The team was not able to pull off the operation with complete anonymity — it is virtually impossible to operate in a modern environment without leaving some kind of electronic trace. The Dubai police were able to use video surveillance from the airport, hotels and a nearby shopping center to trace back the movements of the operatives and establish their identities according to the passports that they used. These later proved to be fraudulent passports ...Moreover, the credit cards used by several members of the operation team were linked to a company called Payoneer. The company's CEO is a former member of Israel Defense Forces special operations, and Payoneer has financial backing from a company based in Israel.
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The high level of complexity involved in this assassination, along with the smoothness with which it was carried out, is evidence that the operation was undertaken by an elite covert force.
USA ger en medalj för "extraordinära insatser" till Sveriges ÖB strax efter MOP och så är medaljen vara en målad plåtbit. Det påminner om när européer bytte värdefulla konstskatter mot färgade glaspärlor i Afrika.
USA ger en medalj för "extraordinära insatser" till Sveriges ÖB strax efter MOP och så är medaljen vara en målad plåtbit. Det påminner om när européer bytte värdefulla konstskatter mot färgade glaspärlor i Afrika.
Det verkar underligt att efterlevande skulle sälja föremål
med affektionsvärde för obetydliga summor.