Finns det någon källa du kan dela som visar att ryssen minerat dammen? Gärna annat än twitter eller någon från Ukrainska armèn.
2: dammen har varit under beskjutning i 10 månader. Hur jävla korkad får man bli..
Är ju Ukraina som tjänar på det här, minst lika mycket som Ryssland. Deras superoffensiv som vi väntat på i över en månad, verkar inte gå vägen. Nu kan den inte genomföras, så nu kan man skylla på det och slippa skämmas. Samtidigt med stöd av 100% media i väst och USA, fastställa att Ryssland gjorde det i "panik" (ärligt talat..) och har begått terrorism, krigsbrott, blablabla. Tror du på tomten också?
Om nu dammen "aldrig blivit beskjuten", varför sköt Ukraina 3 missiler i den förra året?
Via WASHINGTON POST:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/12/29/ukraine-offensive-kharkiv-kherson-donetsk/
"Kharkiv gave the Ukrainians a chance to push on an open door. Kherson presented a solid wall.
Over months of occupation, the Russians had dug trenches and built large defenses. The farmland of the steppe offered little natural cover for an attacking force, and a maze of irrigation canals as obstacles. Moscow had brought in its best troops.
“The minefields they set up there — they practically didn’t know themselves how many they set up. Everyone who came there would change them and add additional minefields,” said Maj. Gen. Andriy Kovalchuk, who was tasked with leading the Kherson counteroffensive. “We didn’t have the option to advance rapidly.”
To decide how to go about the operation, Ukrainian commanders arrived in Germany last July for a war-gaming session with their American and British counterparts.
At the time, the Ukrainians were considering a far broader counteroffensive across the entire southern front, including a drive to the coast in the Zaporizhzhia region that would sever Moscow’s coveted “land bridge” connecting mainland Russia with Crimea, which was illegally annexed in 2014.
In a room full of maps and spreadsheets, the Ukrainians ran their own “tabletop exercise,” describing the order of battle — what formations they would use, where the units would go and in what sequence — and the likely Russian response."
"The American and British war-gamers ran their own simulations using the same inputs but different software and analysis. They couldn’t get the operation to work.
Given the numbers of Ukrainian troops and available stockpiles of ammunition, the planners concluded that the Ukrainians would exhaust their combat power before achieving the offensive’s objectives.
“This was them asking for our advice,” said a senior U.S. defense official, who like others in this article spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military planning. “And our advice was, ‘Hey, guys, you’re going to bite off more than you can chew. This isn’t going to work out well.’”
Beyond the risk of running out of steam, a Zaporizhzhia offensive might have pushed Ukrainian forces into a pocket the Russians could surround with reinforcements sent along two axes, from Crimea and Russia.
“Our commanders thought the Ukrainians left pretty determined that they were going to do the whole thing anyway — just that there was a lot of pressure to do the whole thing,” the defense official said.
The White House reiterated the U.S. military’s analysis in talks with Zelensky’s office.
National security adviser Jake Sullivan talked to the Ukrainian president’s chief of staff, Andriy Yermak, about the plans for a broad southern counteroffensive, according to people familiar with the discussions."
]"The Ukrainians accepted the advice and undertook a narrower campaign focused on Kherson city, which sits on the west side of the Dnieper River, separated from Russian-held territory to the east.
“I give the Ukrainians a lot of credit,” the defense official said. “They allowed reality to move them toward a more limited set of objectives in Kherson. And they were nimble enough to exploit an opportunity in the north. That’s a lot.”
Kovalchuk set out to bisect the Russian-occupied area on the west side of the Dnieper and trap the Russian forces. “My task was not only to liberate the territory,” he said. “My task from the start was to occlude and destroy the force. That is, to not let them leave or exist.”
"[b]. Failing that, the goal was to force them to flee. The 25,000 Russian troops in that portion of Kherson, separated by the broad river from their supplies, had been placed in a highly exposed position. If enough military pressure was applied, Moscow would have no choice but to retreat, Kovalchuk said.
Russia had to arm and feed its forces via three crossings: the Antonovsky Bridge, the Antonovsky railway bridge and the Nova Kakhovka dam, part of a hydroelectric facility with a road running on top of it.
The two bridges were targeted with U.S.-supplied M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems — or HIMARS launchers, which have a range of 50 miles — and were quickly rendered impassable.
There were moments when we turned off their supply lines completely, and they still managed to build crossings,” Kovalchuk said. “They managed to replenish ammunition. … It was very difficult.”
Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages.
The test was a success, Kovalchuk said, but the step remained a last resort. He held off."
Så, hur fungerar ditt narrativ nu? Ni lider alla av ett brutalt brinnande hat, som gör att ni inte kan tänka överhuvudtaget. Till och med de mest simpla logiska tankemönster är omöjliga. Finns bara en enda sanning för er och den leder er till att svälja all propaganda och alla lögner som pumpas ut dagligen.
Så, igen. Dammen har aldrig varit under beskjutning?
Du verkar ju se dig själv som hyfsat kunnig härinne och tillrättavisa folk hit och dit.
Du behöver inte svara. Du kommer inte klara av det mentalt och börja svamla om annat istället. Man gör ofta så för att skydda sin egen verklighet och övertygelse. Kan gissa att några anmälningar kommer ramla in också i ren desperation.
"dU Är BaRa eTt RyZzTrOlL, Tyst".
Nej, jag är en fri tänkare, inget hjärntvättar eller betalt troll.
