2022-04-28, 08:07
  #1981
Medlem
Frågan är om USA och Nato med flera kommer fortsätta leverera vapen när det går sämre för Ukraina i öst. Det skulle bli en onödig triumf för Ryssland om de lyckades att ta södra och östra Ukraina. Det är en vinst även mot väst.
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2022-04-28, 08:11
  #1982
Medlem
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Enligt en del av det vi ser i media verkar de ryska trypperna utgöras av tjetjenier, ossetier och kanske även andra grupper. Det verkar som om propagandan går ut på att inte hålla ryssarna själva ansvariga.

Det där var en korkad kommentar. Så du inbillar dig att Ryssland inte vill vara ansvarigt för seger i kriget utan ger/kommer ge minoritesbefolkningar äran. :-)

Du var visst en ny sorts Putin-troll. Ryssarna som folk är altruister och om de lyckas med något så ger de andra folk äran. :-)

Det har ju blivit "locket av" för den svenska ariska övermänniskan i det här kriget. Undra vad Mena-människor eller sydamerikaner fundera på vad gäller svensk PK-antirasism nu? En ren bluff och det har jag alltid känt. Ungefär som Biden och Demokraterna i USA´s antirasism som yttrat sig i bland annat stöd till BLM under valkampanj och öppna gränser mot Mexiko för billig arbetskraft.
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2022-04-28, 09:38
  #1983
Medlem
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Hade Ryssland varit en stormakt hade Ukraina varit bortblåst nu, Putin och hans Ryssland är ett skämt!
typiskt sånt här skit man får höra från folk efter 7öl på krogen, som bara vräker ur sig något som dom tycker utan att begripa ett skit om krig.
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2022-04-28, 09:41
  #1984
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Krigsbrott är rena påhitt, om det är nån som gör sig skyldig till det så är det de ukrainska soldaterna, det finns det bevis på, har själv sett filmer.
Dags att vakna gubben och inse att västmedia ljuger om nästan allt.

Levande bevis på psykvårdens sönderfall i Sverige
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2022-04-28, 10:27
  #1985
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Hade Ryssland varit en stormakt hade Ukraina varit bortblåst nu, Putin och hans Ryssland är ett skämt!

Vill veta vad som är ett skämt? USA krigade i Afghanistan i 20 år. Sen drog dom sig ur i panik och Talibanerna tog över landet på en vecka!
Och det är ändå bara ett i raden av USAs militära fiaskon. Enda de regelmässigt lyckas med är efterhandskonstruktion där de utmåla sig själva som vinnare. Kallas för bra PR.

Ukraina har en toppmodern arme, tränad av USA och NATO. Tror tom att deras stående armé var Europas största (men faktachecka mig gärna). De får alla vapen de pekar på från EU och USA. Säkerligen har de fått massvis av underrättelseinformation den vägen även nu under pågående krig, plus alla dessa "militära rådgivare". De var vid krigets start till mantalet ca tre gånger så många som de trupper Ryssland skickade in.

Trots detta så talar allt för att Ryssland kommer få det dom var ute efter, dvs Donbas och korridoren till Krim. Och att detta blir ytterligare ett i raden av USAs militära fiaskon -Som de självklart även denna gång kommer måla upp som en seger för en senfärdig och förstoppad allmänhet här i väst.
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2022-04-28, 10:42
  #1986
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I stand corrected men söker man bakåt i tiden efter datum så är det inte jättemånga träffar man får.
Alltså datum från då webbsidan lades ut.
Idag så hittar man över 27 000 000 träffar vilket är typ då Googles sökmotor stannar.
Men det är ett betdligt lägre anntal webbsidor man får på "neo nazis in ukraine", ÅR 2012-2016.
Är då nazisterna i Ukraina 3 miljoner, 300 000, 30 000 eller 3000 ?
Eller är de rent av 27 000 000, dvs mer än hälften av Ukrainas befolkning ?
I så fall borde halva Ukraina vara fyllt av svastikor ?
Den här artikeln från år 2016 dök upp på BBC, om svensken Mikael Skillt:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
Det är väl klart att överallt i världen där det uppstår spänningar så lockar det vildhjärnor.

Vare sig Azov bataljonen är nazister eller inte så har de försvarat Mariupol bra.
Det kan man gott ge dem credd för.

En rådgivare från ministeriet, Anton Gerashchenko säger också i BBC-artikeln:

Hur många Azov det finns är svårt att uppskatta eftersom de ingår i den reguljära armén
“Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces,” a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Regimen i Ukraina har försökt att spela ner Azovs betydelse och nynazism eftersom det har varit hinder för att få militärt stöd från demokratier i Väst.
"The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine’s armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
Russian President Vladimir Putin referenced the presence of such units within the Ukrainian military as one of the reasons for launching his so-called “special military operation … to de-militarise and de-Nazify Ukraine”.
Ukraine’s national guard tweeted a video showing Azov fighters coating their bullets in pig fat to be used allegedly against Muslim Chechens – allies of Russia – deployed in their country.
Azov has also been involved in training civilians through military exercises in the run-up to Russia’s invasion.
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
“These are our best warriors,” he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. “Our best volunteers.”
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]”.
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.

The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine’s armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine’s interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov’s recruits were Nazis.
The unit has denied it adheres to Nazi ideology as a whole, but Nazi symbols such as the swastika and SS regalia are rife on the uniforms and bodies of Azov members.
For example, the uniform carries the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel symbol, which resembles a black swastika on a yellow background. The group said it is merely an amalgam of the letters “N” and “I” which represent “national idea”.
Individual members have professed to being neo-Nazis, and hardcore far-right ultra-nationalism is pervasive among members.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to “restore” order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
“Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces,” a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
In June 2015, both Canada and the United States announced that their own forces will not support or train the Azov regiment, citing its neo-Nazi connections.
The following year, however, the US lifted the ban under pressure from the Pentagon.
In October 2019, 40 members of the US Congress led by Representative Max Rose signed a letter unsuccessfully calling for the US State Department to designate Azov as a “foreign terrorist organisation” (FTO). Last April, Representative Elissa Slotkin repeated the request – which included other white supremacist groups – to the Biden administration.
Transnational support for Azov has been wide, and Ukraine has emerged as a new hub for the far right across the world. Men from across three continents have been documented to join the Azov training units in order to seek combat experience and engage in similar ideology.
In 2016, Facebook first designated the Azov regiment a “dangerous organisation”.
Under the company’s Dangerous Individuals and Organizations policy, Azov was banned from its platforms in 2019. The group was placed under Facebook’s Tier 1 designation, which includes groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and ISIL (ISIS). Users engaging in praise, support or representation of Tier 1 groups are also banned.

However, on February 24, the day Russia launched its invasion, Facebook reversed its ban, saying it would allow praise for Azov.
“For the time being, we are making a narrow exception for praise of the Azov regiment strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine national guard,” a spokesperson from Facebook’s parent company, Meta, told Business Insider.

“But we are continuing to ban all hate speech, hate symbolism, praise of violence, generic praise, support, or representation of the Azov regiment, and any other content that violates our community standards,” it added.
The reversal of policy will be an immense headache for Facebook moderators, the Intercept, a US-based website, said.
“While Facebook users may now praise any future battlefield action by Azov soldiers against Russia, the new policy notes that ‘any praise of violence’ committed by the group is still forbidden; it’s unclear what sort of nonviolent warfare the company anticipates,” the Intercept wrote.
(https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment)
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2022-04-28, 10:51
  #1987
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Trams

Det är relativt enkelt att se vad som sker.
Nu är putler på g även i den lilla anus-republiken Transnistrien, menar du att det också är svårt att begripa?

Tramsig kommentar och grundskolenivå!
Jag är tvungen att vara pedagogisk så att även en femteklassare förstår:
Vad som faktiskt sker i form av truppförflyttningar osv är uppenbart.
Det som är krigspropaganda är hur man ska tolka krigets process, vem har överläge resp underläge? hur stora är förlusterna? krigsbrott ? fredsvillkoren? långsiktiga strategier? omvärldens reaktioner? effekter av sanktioner? osv
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2022-04-28, 11:22
  #1988
Medlem
Jag tror Ryssland kan vinna. Så länge läget är stabiliserat i zonerna dem håller just nu.
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2022-04-28, 11:39
  #1989
Bannlyst
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Hur många Azov det finns är svårt att uppskatta eftersom de ingår i den reguljära armén
“Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces,” a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Regimen i Ukraina har försökt att spela ner Azovs betydelse och nynazism eftersom det har varit hinder för att få militärt stöd från demokratier i Väst.
"The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine’s armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
Russian President Vladimir Putin referenced the presence of such units within the Ukrainian military as one of the reasons for launching his so-called “special military operation … to de-militarise and de-Nazify Ukraine”.
Ukraine’s national guard tweeted a video showing Azov fighters coating their bullets in pig fat to be used allegedly against Muslim Chechens – allies of Russia – deployed in their country.
Azov has also been involved in training civilians through military exercises in the run-up to Russia’s invasion.
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
“These are our best warriors,” he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. “Our best volunteers.”
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]”.
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.

The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine’s armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine’s interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov’s recruits were Nazis.
The unit has denied it adheres to Nazi ideology as a whole, but Nazi symbols such as the swastika and SS regalia are rife on the uniforms and bodies of Azov members.
For example, the uniform carries the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel symbol, which resembles a black swastika on a yellow background. The group said it is merely an amalgam of the letters “N” and “I” which represent “national idea”.
Individual members have professed to being neo-Nazis, and hardcore far-right ultra-nationalism is pervasive among members.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to “restore” order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
“Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces,” a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
In June 2015, both Canada and the United States announced that their own forces will not support or train the Azov regiment, citing its neo-Nazi connections.
The following year, however, the US lifted the ban under pressure from the Pentagon.
In October 2019, 40 members of the US Congress led by Representative Max Rose signed a letter unsuccessfully calling for the US State Department to designate Azov as a “foreign terrorist organisation” (FTO). Last April, Representative Elissa Slotkin repeated the request – which included other white supremacist groups – to the Biden administration.
Transnational support for Azov has been wide, and Ukraine has emerged as a new hub for the far right across the world. Men from across three continents have been documented to join the Azov training units in order to seek combat experience and engage in similar ideology.
In 2016, Facebook first designated the Azov regiment a “dangerous organisation”.
Under the company’s Dangerous Individuals and Organizations policy, Azov was banned from its platforms in 2019. The group was placed under Facebook’s Tier 1 designation, which includes groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and ISIL (ISIS). Users engaging in praise, support or representation of Tier 1 groups are also banned.

However, on February 24, the day Russia launched its invasion, Facebook reversed its ban, saying it would allow praise for Azov.
“For the time being, we are making a narrow exception for praise of the Azov regiment strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine national guard,” a spokesperson from Facebook’s parent company, Meta, told Business Insider.

“But we are continuing to ban all hate speech, hate symbolism, praise of violence, generic praise, support, or representation of the Azov regiment, and any other content that violates our community standards,” it added.
The reversal of policy will be an immense headache for Facebook moderators, the Intercept, a US-based website, said.
“While Facebook users may now praise any future battlefield action by Azov soldiers against Russia, the new policy notes that ‘any praise of violence’ committed by the group is still forbidden; it’s unclear what sort of nonviolent warfare the company anticipates,” the Intercept wrote.
(https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment)

Man måste tänka på Azov som ISIS, en psyop organisation vars uppgift är/var att agera bödlar. ISIS larpade som extrem Islamister och alla har sett de proffsigt gjorda propaganda filmerna när de skär halsen av "deras egna".

ISIS var en jihadist rörelse på steroider. Kraftigt sponsrade och tränade av väst (CIA och Mossad).

Azov är utåt sett en nynazistisk organisation, varför just nynazistisk? För de som sponsrar Azov vill döda Ryssar (slaver), vilka mer ville slakta slaver och invaderade Ryssland för att göra just det? "Nazister". (Jag vet, Tyskarna såg slaver som en del av den ariska rasen, men detta är vad 95% av alla i väst lär sig på historieklassen).

Azov är en satanistisk rörelse med starka kopplingar till Atomwaffen i USA, de har bokstavligen tränats tillsammans i Ukraina av CIA. Snubben som ledde Atomwaffen hade t.o.m särskild "clearance" (Fed). Atomwaffen kollapsade till slut för det var en sådan uppenbar honeypot och när info kom fram att deras Discord bl a var fylld med transporr och annat satanistiskt trams tog alla med självrespekt avstånd.

Azov är likadana, en av deras högsta höns blev gripen för någon månad sedan när han blev påsatt av en transa, Ryssarna har hittat satanistiska ritualplatser i Mariupol där Azov flytt från, civila har vittnat om bisarra ritualer, tortyr m.m.

Det kunde lika gärna varit Azov som skar halsen av fångar på ISIS klippen, det är samma avskum.

Tyskarna sparkade ut Banderas (Azovs idol) för han var sjuk i huvudet.
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2022-04-28, 11:56
  #1990
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Man måste tänka på Azov som ISIS, en psyop organisation vars uppgift är/var att agera bödlar. ISIS larpade som extrem Islamister och alla har sett de proffsigt gjorda propaganda filmerna när de skär halsen av "deras egna".

ISIS var en jihadist rörelse på steroider. Kraftigt sponsrade och tränade av väst (CIA och Mossad).

Azov är utåt sett en nynazistisk organisation, varför just nynazistisk? För de som sponsrar Azov vill döda Ryssar (slaver), vilka mer ville slakta slaver och invaderade Ryssland för att göra just det? "Nazister". (Jag vet, Tyskarna såg slaver som en del av den ariska rasen, men detta är vad 95% av alla i väst lär sig på historieklassen).

Azov är en satanistisk rörelse med starka kopplingar till Atomwaffen i USA, de har bokstavligen tränats tillsammans i Ukraina av CIA. Snubben som ledde Atomwaffen hade t.o.m särskild "clearance" (Fed). Atomwaffen kollapsade till slut för det var en sådan uppenbar honeypot och när info kom fram att deras Discord bl a var fylld med transporr och annat satanistiskt trams tog alla med självrespekt avstånd.

Azov är likadana, en av deras högsta höns blev gripen för någon månad sedan när han blev påsatt av en transa, Ryssarna har hittat satanistiska ritualplatser i Mariupol där Azov flytt från, civila har vittnat om bisarra ritualer, tortyr m.m.

Det kunde lika gärna varit Azov som skar halsen av fångar på ISIS klippen, det är samma avskum.

Tyskarna sparkade ut Banderas (Azovs idol) för han var sjuk i huvudet.

Ukraina har alltså bevisligen inkorporerat en fascistisk terroristgruppering, sponsrad av en kriminell oligark, inom den reguljära armén. Azov idkar terror mot den egna befolkningen.
Zelensky är sponsrad av samme oligark och har nu förbjudit opposition och strypt yttrandefrihet.
Hur kan man ens kalla Ukraina för en västlig demokrati? formellt kanske men inte i realiteten.

Märk väl att jag inte anser detta legitimera Rysslands invasion. Lika lite som om Putin istället hade invaderat Vitryssland som är en diktatur.
Men det är dags att öppna ögonen för vad Ukraina är för land och inte släppa in dem i EU hur som helst. Helst inte i NATO heller det räcker med misstaget Turkiet.
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2022-04-28, 11:58
  #1991
Medlem
Citat:
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Hur många Azov det finns är svårt att uppskatta eftersom de ingår i den reguljära armén
“Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces,” a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
Regimen i Ukraina har försökt att spela ner Azovs betydelse och nynazism eftersom det har varit hinder för att få militärt stöd från demokratier i Väst.
"The far-right neo-Nazi group has expanded to become part of Ukraine’s armed forces, a street militia and a political party.
Russian President Vladimir Putin referenced the presence of such units within the Ukrainian military as one of the reasons for launching his so-called “special military operation … to de-militarise and de-Nazify Ukraine”.
Ukraine’s national guard tweeted a video showing Azov fighters coating their bullets in pig fat to be used allegedly against Muslim Chechens – allies of Russia – deployed in their country.
Azov has also been involved in training civilians through military exercises in the run-up to Russia’s invasion.
Azov is a far-right all-volunteer infantry military unit whose members – estimated at 900 – are ultra-nationalists and accused of harbouring neo-Nazi and white supremacist ideology.
The unit was initially formed as a volunteer group in May 2014 out of the ultra-nationalist Patriot of Ukraine gang, and the neo-Nazi Social National Assembly (SNA) group. Both groups engaged in xenophobic and neo-Nazi ideals and physically assaulted migrants, the Roma community and people opposing their views.
As a battalion, the group fought on the front lines against pro-Russian separatists in Donetsk, the eastern region of Ukraine. Just before launching the invasion, Putin recognised the independence of two rebel-held regions from Donbas.
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
“These are our best warriors,” he said at an awards ceremony in 2014. “Our best volunteers.”
Who founded Azov?
The unit was led by Andriy Biletsky, who served as the the leader of both the Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 2005) and the SNA (founded in 2008). The SNA is known to have carried out attacks on minority groups in Ukraine.
In 2010, Biletsky said Ukraine’s national purpose was to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen [inferior races]”.
Biletsky was elected to parliament in 2014. He left Azov as elected officials cannot be in the military or police force. He remained an MP until 2019.

The 42-year-old is nicknamed Bely Vozd – or White Ruler – by his supporters. He established the far-right National Corps party in October 2016, whose core base is veterans of Azov.
Before becoming part of Ukraine’s armed forces, who funded Azov?
The unit received backing from Ukraine’s interior minister in 2014, as the government had recognised its own military was too weak to fight off the pro-Russian separatists and relied on paramilitary volunteer forces.
These forces were privately funded by oligarchs – the most known being Igor Kolomoisky, an energy magnate billionaire and then-governor of the Dnipropetrovska region.
In addition to Azov, Kolomoisky funded other volunteer battalions such as the Dnipro 1 and Dnipro 2, Aidar and Donbas units.
Azov received early funding and assistance from another oligarch: Serhiy Taruta, the billionaire governor of Donetsk region.
In 2015, Andriy Diachenko, the spokesperson for the regiment at the time said that 10 to 20 percent of Azov’s recruits were Nazis.
The unit has denied it adheres to Nazi ideology as a whole, but Nazi symbols such as the swastika and SS regalia are rife on the uniforms and bodies of Azov members.
For example, the uniform carries the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel symbol, which resembles a black swastika on a yellow background. The group said it is merely an amalgam of the letters “N” and “I” which represent “national idea”.
Individual members have professed to being neo-Nazis, and hardcore far-right ultra-nationalism is pervasive among members.
In January 2018, Azov rolled out its street patrol unit called National Druzhyna to “restore” order in the capital, Kyiv. Instead, the unit carried out pogroms against the Roma community and attacked members of the LGBTQ community.
“Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces,” a correspondent for the US-based magazine, the Nation, wrote in 2019.
A 2016 report by the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OCHA) has accused the Azov regiment of violating international humanitarian law.
The report detailed incidents over a period from November 2015-February 2016 where Azov had embedded their weapons and forces in used civilian buildings, and displaced residents after looting civilian properties. The report also accused the battalion of raping and torturing detainees in the Donbas region.
In June 2015, both Canada and the United States announced that their own forces will not support or train the Azov regiment, citing its neo-Nazi connections.
The following year, however, the US lifted the ban under pressure from the Pentagon.
In October 2019, 40 members of the US Congress led by Representative Max Rose signed a letter unsuccessfully calling for the US State Department to designate Azov as a “foreign terrorist organisation” (FTO). Last April, Representative Elissa Slotkin repeated the request – which included other white supremacist groups – to the Biden administration.
Transnational support for Azov has been wide, and Ukraine has emerged as a new hub for the far right across the world. Men from across three continents have been documented to join the Azov training units in order to seek combat experience and engage in similar ideology.
In 2016, Facebook first designated the Azov regiment a “dangerous organisation”.
Under the company’s Dangerous Individuals and Organizations policy, Azov was banned from its platforms in 2019. The group was placed under Facebook’s Tier 1 designation, which includes groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and ISIL (ISIS). Users engaging in praise, support or representation of Tier 1 groups are also banned.

However, on February 24, the day Russia launched its invasion, Facebook reversed its ban, saying it would allow praise for Azov.
“For the time being, we are making a narrow exception for praise of the Azov regiment strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine national guard,” a spokesperson from Facebook’s parent company, Meta, told Business Insider.

“But we are continuing to ban all hate speech, hate symbolism, praise of violence, generic praise, support, or representation of the Azov regiment, and any other content that violates our community standards,” it added.
The reversal of policy will be an immense headache for Facebook moderators, the Intercept, a US-based website, said.
“While Facebook users may now praise any future battlefield action by Azov soldiers against Russia, the new policy notes that ‘any praise of violence’ committed by the group is still forbidden; it’s unclear what sort of nonviolent warfare the company anticipates,” the Intercept wrote.
(https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment)

Azov-bataljonen och andra högerextremistmiliser har ju spelat en ganska viktig roll i att förhindra att vapenstillestånd hålls och överenskommelser om tillbakadragande av tunga vapen från fronten inte hålls. Lika så i att hota så att inte fredsförhandlingar som utlovats gång på gång i Minskavtalen och i Zelenskis valkampanj inte kommer till stånd. Dessutom har de stått för inofficiell rättsskipniong inom landet sedan 2014 och utfört grova brott mot oppositionella politiker/jounalister och förföljelse av minoriteteter som zigenare/homosexuella.

Jag anser att dessa extremistgrupper spelat stor roll trots det lilla stöd de har i befolkningen och det tror jag är inte bara är med vissa oligarkers goda minne men framförllt USA´s. De har varit en betydelsefull kraft i att få fram det här kriget åt Nato.
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Azov-bataljonen och andra högerextremistmiliser har ju spelat en ganska viktig roll i att förhindra att vapenstillestånd hålls och överenskommelser om tillbakadragande av tunga vapen från fronten inte hålls. Lika så i att hota så att inte fredsförhandlingar som utlovats gång på gång i Minskavtalen och i Zelenskis valkampanj inte kommer till stånd. Dessutom har de stått för inofficiell rättsskipniong inom landet sedan 2014 och utfört grova brott mot oppositionella politiker/jounalister och förföljelse av minoriteteter som zigenare/homosexuella.

Jag anser att dessa extremistgrupper spelat stor roll trots det lilla stöd de har i befolkningen och det tror jag är inte bara är med vissa oligarkers goda minne men framförllt USA´s. De har varit en betydelsefull kraft i att få fram det här kriget åt Nato.

Det vore intressant att få fram vilka ekonomiska fördelar oligarker som Kolomoisky får via detta krig?
Kan det bli så att pengar från tex USA kommer på avvägar och hamnar på oligarkens offshore-konton eller vapenleveranser säljs vidare mm? Risken för svinn är uppenbar och med tanke på att Biden har haft fingrarna i syltburken i korruptionsaffärer i Ukraina tidigare.
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