Valfusk under USA-valet 2020? Rapporterade incidenter.

2020-12-15, 10:42 #**25585**

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Ursprungligen postat av I-van-Toer

Då är man ju dum i huvudet.

Hur många röstade på Trump 2016 för att de enbart vill rösta emot Clinton? 44%?

42%

2020-12-15, 10:43 #**25586**

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Ursprungligen postat av HepCat-X

I tvåpartisystem (med First Past the Post på alla nivåer) är det mycket vanligare än i proportionella valsystem att stora grupper väljare håller för näsan och till slut röstar på en kandidat som de verkligen inte gillar eller känner stort förtroende för, därför att "jag tänker ta mig fan inte medverka till att den där Andra vinner!". Alla vet att det fungerar så.

Visa på lite siffror från tidigare val. Trump vs Clinton, Romney vs Obama, McCain vs Obama, Bush vs Kerry, Bush vs Gore, Dole vs Clinton vs Perot osv.

Jag tror alla förstår att ett land går åt helvete till slut om väldigt många resonerar som du skriver.

2020-12-15, 10:45 #**25587**

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Ursprungligen postat av joxmoose

Vissa Trump anhängare verkar inte greppat detta om "dueling slate of electors", så vi försöker igen.

Dessa alternativa Republikanska elektorer som gick och röstade för Trump igår har utan Guvernörens signatur samma legitimitet som om jag själv skulle samla ett gäng kompisar, rösta för Kalle Anka som president och skicka resultatet till kongressen som "dueling slate of electors" för valfri stat. Inget mer än glorifierat lajvande.

Exakt, det handlar om patetiska försök till gatecrashing utan någon legitimitet.

2020-12-15, 10:46 #**25588**

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Ursprungligen postat av I-van-Toer

Visa på lite siffror från tidigare val. Trump vs Clinton, Romney vs Obama, McCain vs Obama, Bush vs Kerry, Bush vs Gore, Dole vs Clinton vs Perot osv.

Jag tror alla förstår att ett land går åt helvete till slut om väldigt många resonerar som du skriver.

Jag anser själv att tvåpartisystemet och FPTP är åt skogen, många i USA och England anser detsamma. Frågor på det?

2020-12-15, 10:47 #**25589**

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Ursprungligen postat av siister

42%

Källa?

2020-12-15, 10:49 #**25590**

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Ursprungligen postat av I-van-Toer

Källa?

Samma som din, Morning Consult

2020-12-15, 10:52 #**25591**

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Ursprungligen postat av Lucas49

Vinden vänder snabbt och t.om Newsmax ägare inser att det kommer bli svårt att fortsätta tjäna grova pengar på att ha Trumps som dragplåster framöver.

Nej. det är journalism så som den skall fungera. Loppet är kört och Trump har inte haft några framgångar med bevisningen. Det går inte att ljuga om man är nyhetsförmedlare. Jag menar det borde inte var möjligt.

2020-12-15, 10:58 #**25592**

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En bra beskrivning på vad som kan ske den 6:e januari:

THIS EXPLAINS WHAT HAPPENED TODAY DURING THE VOTES

SHARED From President Trump’s …. Atty. Jenna Ellis…

Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president…

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing… Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.

Remember… Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing…

The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.

The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.

President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!

This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.

Tic Toc… Tic Toc…

Källa: https://wearethene.ws/notable/179979

2020-12-15, 10:58 #**25593**

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Ursprungligen postat av disast3r

Där har media konspirerat mot folk genom att sätta trump på repeat i flera år.
Ungefär som när CIA tvingar fångar att lyssna på britney spears och vara vakna i flera dygn.
Det kallas psy-ops.

Jo, det är klart att Trump fick enorm draghjälp av media och i synnerhet tv-kanaler som hjälpte till att idolisera honom, långt innan han ställde upp som presidentkandidat. För de flesta vanliga människor 2015-16 var ju Trump känd mest från den hårt stiliserade bilden av honom i The Apprentice och hela mediebilden av honom som storkäftad "swashbuckling businessman". Han behövde inte visa upp något track record som politiker, det var t o m en fördel för honom att vara känd från media men inte från politiken.

2020-12-15, 11:01 #**25594**

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Ursprungligen postat av Fittahora

En bra beskrivning på vad som kan ske den 6:e januari:

THIS EXPLAINS WHAT HAPPENED TODAY DURING THE VOTES

SHARED From President Trump’s …. Atty. Jenna Ellis…

Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president…

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing… Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.

Remember… Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing…

The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.

The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.

President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!

This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.

Tic Toc… Tic Toc…

Källa: https://wearethene.ws/notable/179979

En gång för alla så ni slipper ångesten senare

The next step is on Jan. 6, when both chambers of Congress meet and accept the electors’ votes. A handful of Republicans in the House have already signaled they plan to object to this. They need to find a Republican senator to potentially force a vote in Congress.

But the existence of that alternative slate doesn’t change the facts in Washington — Democrats control the House and aren’t going to overturn Biden’s election by rejecting his electors. Trump quite simply doesn’t have the votes to change anything.

Even in the GOP-controlled Senate, enough Republican senators have signaled objections to Trump’s attempts to overturn the election to make it very unlikely that the chamber would select his alternate slate of “electors” over the Biden ones the battleground states are sending.

If, somehow, the Senate did vote for the rival electors, the deadlock wouldn’t necessarily help Trump. Federal law provides for electors appointed by a state’s governor to win any split decisions in Congress. The governors of all the contested states won by Biden, Democratic and Republican, appointed electors for Biden.

The existence of the rival slates does have a technical impact though — Congress will likely have to go through the motions of rejecting them, said Edward Foley, a law professor at Ohio State University.

“They’re dead on arrival and will be treated as frivolous and hardly worth the time of day,” Foley said.

Steven Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas, tweeted: “Don’t be distracted by these preposterous mock electoral votes—they don’t change how anything is going to unfold, since congressional Republicans could’ve objected without them. Either way, without a House majority, all Rs can do is slow the counting down on 1/6—not stop it.”

Vladeck added: “That doesn’t mean they’re not offensive; they are. But they don’t—and aren’t going to—change any of the legal calculus going forward.”

2020-12-15, 11:03 #**25595**

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Ursprungligen postat av RobRoys

Ah, jag tror jag missförstod dig. Jag trodde att du var sarkastisk, det var därför jag svarade kort i mitt första svar.

För att svara på frågan - nja, inte vad jag vet, men desto mer som kommer fram desto mer kommer ju motivera dessa SOL att agera i den riktning, antar jag. Sedan bör man nog utgå ifrån att det är långt mycket mer som har kommit fram än vad som nämns i MSM - MSM som ju gör allt i sin makt för att mörka allt som är till Trumps fördel, samtidigt som de sätter press på allt och alla att inte agera i Trumps favör, även om det är det objektivt rätta att göra.

Så jag tror att detta kan bli mycket intressant.

Ah haha nä då, jag var uppriktig!

Hursomhelst, den nye DOJ verkar vara specialiserad på just valfusk, så vi får hoppas han har större kompetens att titta på detta än den avdankade Bush-mannen Barr!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/new-acting-attorney-general-jeff-rosen-recently-wrote-essay-foreign-influence-us-elections-tells-us- little-knowledge-going-today

En annan intressant vänding är att polisen genomfört en razzia på SolarWinds huvudkontor i Texas. Företaget använder som bekant Dominions maskiner och dessa tros nu ha infiltrerats av främmande makt, vilket också tyder på att de sannolikt även manipulerat valresultatet:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-fbi-texas-rangers-us-marshals-raid-solarwinds-hq-austin

Sean Hannity rapporterar mer om storyn:

https://twitter.com/Rothbard1776/status/1338626722321879045

2020-12-15, 11:05 #**25596**

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Ursprungligen postat av Fittahora

En bra beskrivning på vad som kan ske den 6:e januari:

THIS EXPLAINS WHAT HAPPENED TODAY DURING THE VOTES

SHARED From President Trump’s …. Atty. Jenna Ellis…

Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president…

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing… Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.

Remember… Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today but that means nothing…

The votes will be opened and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will be only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member!!! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.

The Democrats, the media, social networks and globalists around the world will come unhinged and chaos will erupt. Bigly.

President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!

This is why our forefathers were so brilliant because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution and you know that the law, policies and procedures in the end are on our side.

Tic Toc… Tic Toc…

Källa: https://wearethene.ws/notable/179979

Tror att du och din källa har fel.
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