Dödligt virus från Kina orsakar panik (SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19)

Palliativ vård har ju varit högst relevant i samband med C19. Det är en av fenomenen som har förorsakat mycket ilska och kritik från allmänheten när de inte har förstått när och varför.

Men du din vana trogen anser att diskussionen är avslutad när du har hamnat i en återvändsgränd med dina dåligt motiverade argument.

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Sweden becomes an example of how not to handle COVID-19

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Sweden's government now admits that procedures in care homes at the outbreak of the pandemic were inadequate. As far Helen Gluckman is concerned, that's an understatement. Her 80-year-old father Jan died in a home in April.

Near the end, "he was squeezing my hand when I was talking to him," she told CBS News. "I think he heard me."

When Jan tested positive for COVID-19, the care home where he lived didn't send him to the hospital. Staff stopped monitoring his oxygen levels and gave him morphine. He died within days.

"They didn't have any oxygen in the home, so there was nothing that they could do, or were doing, so I think it was better [for them] not knowing how bad his condition was," his daughter said.

"They just gave him morphine, which kills a person after a while," Gluckman said, adding that if she had known at the time that "morphine will kill you, because it takes your breathing away," she never would have accepted it.

Asked how health care professionals could take such decisions — essentially making a call not to treat a patient — Gluckman said authorities in Stockholm seemed to decide early on that they weren't going to treat the elderly, perhaps to keep ICU beds available.

She said without hesitation that she's "lost faith" in both the government's and the public health authorities' handling of the epidemic.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sweden-covid-coronavirus-deaths-make-sweden-example-of-how-not-to-deal-with-covid-19/

Obs att detta är CBS News och inte från någon trollfabrik i Sankt Petersburg.

Inte enligt denna studien:

”Data from Germany show that in symptomatic children, initial SARS-CoV-2 viral loads at diagnosis are comparable to those in adults [1], and that symptomatic children of all ages shed infectious virus in early acute illness [20]. In this study, also infectious virus isolation success was comparable to that of adults. The youngest patient from whom SARS-CoV-2 was isolated was a seven-day old neonate. In another non peer-reviewed publication, it was also shown that there is no significant difference between viral loads in persons 1-20 years of age in comparison to adults 21-100 years of age [21].”

Barn smittar lika lätt som vuxna.

”Data from Germany show that in symptomatic children, initial SARS-CoV-2 viral loads at diagnosis are comparable to those in adults [1], and that symptomatic children of all ages shed infectious virus in early acute illness [20]. In this study, also infectious virus isolation success was comparable to that of adults. The youngest patient from whom SARS-CoV-2 was isolated was a seven-day old neonate. In another non peer-reviewed publication, it was also shown that there is no significant difference between viral loads in persons 1-20 years of age in comparison to adults 21-100 years of age [21].”

Sverigebilden™

Sweden becomes an example of how not to handle COVID-19

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Sweden's government now admits that procedures in care homes at the outbreak of the pandemic were inadequate. As far Helen Gluckman is concerned, that's an understatement. Her 80-year-old father Jan died in a home in April.

Near the end, "he was squeezing my hand when I was talking to him," she told CBS News. "I think he heard me."

When Jan tested positive for COVID-19, the care home where he lived didn't send him to the hospital. Staff stopped monitoring his oxygen levels and gave him morphine. He died within days.

"They didn't have any oxygen in the home, so there was nothing that they could do, or were doing, so I think it was better [for them] not knowing how bad his condition was," his daughter said.

"They just gave him morphine, which kills a person after a while," Gluckman said, adding that if she had known at the time that "morphine will kill you, because it takes your breathing away," she never would have accepted it.

Asked how health care professionals could take such decisions — essentially making a call not to treat a patient — Gluckman said authorities in Stockholm seemed to decide early on that they weren't going to treat the elderly, perhaps to keep ICU beds available.

She said without hesitation that she's "lost faith" in both the government's and the public health authorities' handling of the epidemic.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sweden-covid-coronavirus-deaths-make-sweden-example-of-how-not-to-deal-with-covid-19/

Obs att detta är CBS News och inte från någon trollfabrik i Sankt Petersburg.

Vilken obehaglig hycklare av stora mått denne Elizabeth Palmer.

"But face coverings are still a rarity. Taking a ride on Stockholm's subway, Palmer was the only one on the train wearing a mask."

Men vad gör Palmer sen på pressträffen, inomhus med massor av andra journalister i samma lokal? Jo, hon tar av sig masken när hon ska ställa frågor till Karin Tegmark-Wisell - efter att precis ha kritiserat Sverige för den slappa attityden..

03:58 i videoklippet.

Här diskuterar vi COVID-19 vilket inte har något att göra med det du vill diskutera.

Du får öppna en ny tråd så kan vi fortsätta där!

Det kan aldrig bli tal om palliativ vård för sjuka i COVID-19. Antingen överlever du eller så dör man. Palliativ vård är till för patienter med exempelvis cancer eller ALS.

Kan du förklara varför en patient som har vaknat upp efter behandling på IVA för COVID-19 skulle behöva palliativ vård?

Du tänker nog på dödshjälpen som skedde på äldreboenden under mars och april pågrund av COVID-19. Då de sjuka fick en "liten" morfinspruta..............

Ja, skjut ned budbäraren Sno så kanske du slipper diskutera budskapet om du har tur