2020-04-04, 16:47
  #2425
Medlem
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Bara att konstatera att Trump som president nog aldrig kommer att kunna föregå med något som helst gott exempel för medborgarna att följa. Troligen därför som detta kaos nu råder då ingen ansvarsfull ledare i toppen finns att finna, t.o,m Obama får sig ju en släng av Trump.
Obama är tydligen orsaken till att det ser ut som det gör men samtidigt så ser det ju enligt Trump inte alls ut som det gör då kampen mot corona är mycket framgångsrik.

Fast ingen med lite bakom skallbenen lär ju följa några som helst stolleråd från Trump vilket kanske räddar upp det hela något.

Fast som Trump nu spottar och fräser så borde han nog i dessa coronatider själv bära mask eller spottluva.

Att hålla en linje är nog inte Trumps starka sida. Han borde bestämma sig för att det går dåligt eller för att det går bra. Men det är ju så här han har hållit på jämnt så han kan nog inte ens räkna ut hur illa det låter. Eller illa, det låter som bortförklaringar. Och det är det sämsta en ledare kan framställa sig som, en bortförklarare och en som inte kan ta ansvar.

Men jag tror att många i USA tror att det går över snart. De har lyssnat på Trump och fått det för sig och förstår inte att det inte ens börjat än.

När det börjar blir problem i USA kring coronan så är det verkligen upp till Trump att visa ledarskap.

Om han kan visa ledarskap? Nej, jag skulle inte tro det.
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2020-04-04, 17:08
  #2426
Medlem
Det som liknas vid röda prickar på kartan är ju var det finns smitta. Vi kan snart byta ut dessa prickar till rena brand härder. För närvarande brinner NY. Får vi en ny helvetesdag i NY?. Med all säkerhet Ja!. Om inte ännu värre än igår. Hur mycket mäktar NY med i detta kaos.

Ska försöka ge mig på ett uppdrag att leta upp dessa försvunna ventilatorer som ett litet strå för att hjälpa till i NY med kommande helvets dygn.

Återkommer med den info jag kan leta upp gällande de försvunna ventilatorerna.
Jakten har börjat!
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2020-04-04, 17:16
  #2427
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av leosurvey
Det som liknas vid röda prickar på kartan är ju var det finns smitta. Vi kan snart byta ut dessa prickar till rena brand härder. För närvarande brinner NY. Får vi en ny helvetesdag i NY?. Med all säkerhet Ja!. Om inte ännu värre än igår. Hur mycket mäktar NY med i detta kaos.

Ska försöka ge mig på ett uppdrag att leta upp dessa försvunna ventilatorer som ett litet strå för att hjälpa till i NY med kommande helvets dygn.

Återkommer med den info jag kan leta upp gällande de försvunna ventilatorerna.
Jakten har börjat!

God jaktlycka! Hela USA kommer att brinna snart. De har för många fattiga och överviktiga och det gör läget mycket allvarligt för dem.
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2020-04-04, 17:44
  #2428
Medlem
klybans avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av borskungen
Herregud vilken idiot du är. En pandemi innebär inte att staten tar över alla verksamheter i ett samhälle.
Vi pratar om hälsa och sjukvård, och ingen sagt att ta över verksamheter, men väl där som stöd och skaffa utrustning och skapa bättre förutsättningar.
Men nu får alla delstater buda mot varandra och FEMA.
Låter kostnadseffektivt

Och där har trumpen fallerat hela tiden, då trumpen är minst 2-5 steg efter viruset.(Enda som visade nått före var Kinainrese stoppet, men det lärde vi oss sen var bara en hämnd, och man stoppade EU länder med låg smitta, men lät England få passera som den 6:e mest med COVID-19)

Och sen trodde inte jag en POTUS skulle säga gå och smitta era kamrater på jobbet om ni bara har "lite" COVID-19.

Aldrig sett en sådan här inkompetens förut och på så bred front som i USA.
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2020-04-04, 19:29
  #2429
Medlem
Rapport 4000 ventilatorer på vift: I min lilla undersökning var dessa ventilatorer tagit vägen har min utgångspunkt varit i vilket lager i NY står dessa ventilatorer?. Utgångspunkten var då att någon försökt gömma undan dessa eller någon sorts mygel transportfirma eller dylikt. Länken här under visar en judisk kille som hamstrat N95 masker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW9dpznMqAI

Det har florerat rykten om att 4000 ventilatorerna skulle ha hamnat i något lager i New Jersey eller liknande. Det är inga uppgifter jag kunnat få fram. Däremot tror jag som redan påpekats att administrationen från Fema och Trump liknar en bedrövelse. I dessa tider där man skriker efter ventilatorer så döljer sig sedan en soppa av budgivning. Exempelvis var företaget som vann budgivningen att ansvara för underhåll av ventilatorerna (företaget Agiliti ). Det har visat sig att flera av de ventilatorerna som kommer ut från FEMA har bristfälligt underhåll. Vad jag kan förstå handlar det om upphandlingar och man har hamnat i någon sorts skifteskonflikt med underhållet av ventilatorerna eftersom företaget som var före Agiliti inte är med på banan längre. Alltså man distribuerar bristfälliga ventilatorer ut i landet eftersom en ventilator har en form utav färskvaruprincipen inom sig. Filter behöver bytas osv. Så problemen hopar sig.

Min slutsats: Administartionen Fema och Trumpen behärskar inte detta. Man står med byxorna nere. Sedan ska man likt en ängel framstå som att man är distributör av ventilatorer ur sin STOCKPILE!
Det förstår Ni själva DET HÄR KOMMER INTE HÅLLA!

Nedan där jag hämtat en del av infon.

Some ventilators sent to New York hospitals from a federal stockpile are arriving damaged and without crucial parts, Business Insider has found.

They're part of an emergency shipment of 4,000 ventilators delivered across the state last week to help hospitals combat the novel coronavirus, according to someone with direct knowledge of the matter who was not authorized to speak to the press. Half were earmarked for New York City, according to Mayor Bill de Blasio.

Northwell Health, New York's largest healthcare provider, received more than 100 ventilators from the stockpile, some of which were missing hoses that pump air into patients' lungs, according to Terry Lynam, the health system's chief public-relations officer. Others lacked stands that prop up the machines, he said.

Northwell is in contact with the manufacturer to get more hoses but can operate the ventilators without the stands, Lynam said in an email. On Monday, Northwell received a large number of functioning ventilators and N95 respirators from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, he added.

"We're certainly grateful for anything we can get," Lynam said.

NewYork-Presbyterian, a network of 13 hospitals and medical centers in and around the city, received 300 ventilators from the stockpile last week. All of them were missing parts or had damaged parts, such as bacterial filters, the network of tubing that connects the ventilator to an intubated patient, or oxygen hoses. That's according to a person with direct knowledge of NewYork-Presbyterian's situation.

NewYork-Presbyterian didn't respond to requests for comment.

It's unknown how many nonworking ventilators in total were shipped to New York hospitals.

"The Strategic National Stockpile is unaware of any issues with ventilators provided to New York," a US Department of Health and Human Services representative said. "All ventilators deployed from the SNS are in operating condition and maintained based on the original manufacturer's specifications outlined in the service manual."

“We still have that first tranche of ventilators, although we’re accelerating the work to get them deployable,” Mr. Leonard said. “We haven’t seen or touched or had anything to do with the ones that have already been deployed to date.”

Ventilators are sensitive machinery that Mr. Trump described on Sunday as so complex they were like “building a car.” But, experts say, like a car, they cannot be stored for lengthy periods without maintenance. So few are surprised that as the nation’s hospitals scramble to pull together every usable ventilator they can find, some have come out of storage with depleted batteries, missing oxygen hoses and other issues.

California recently discovered that 170 of its ventilators arrived broken, disputing the claim from the Department of Health and Human Services that all of the ventilators shipped by the Federal Emergency Management Agency were ready to use. The agency said in a statement that problems with some ventilators were limited to the devices’ external batteries, and that federal officials were quick to assist the states with any technical issues.

Federal officials revealed on Wednesday that their stockpile of medical gear was nearly depleted. FEMA has shipped 26 million surgical masks, 11.6 million respirator masks and more than five million face shields to states, setting off a race to obtain millions of recently produced masks from a variety of manufacturers at a moment of huge price spikes for respirators that previously sold for about 85 cents.

The bigger struggle, however, has focused on ventilators because states have asked for tens of thousands more than the approximately 9,400 that the U.S. government currently has in its stockpile. The Defense Department is also making 1,065 ventilators available, although those require special training and are not used as frequently in hospitals.

As White House officials have for the first time looked at a supply they had not thought about, they have discovered it is not only far smaller than what they need — it is also in constant need of maintenance.

Aric Vacchiano, the vice president of U.S. sales and services at Vyaire Medical in Chicago, which produces the LTV 1200, one of the ventilators in the federal stockpile, said the company had been fielding calls from all over the country as hospital officials rushed to get the machines in working order.

“They’re reaching out in every direction,” Mr. Vacchiano said.

Vyaire was responsible for maintaining some of the ventilators in the federal stockpile until that contract ran out in late August. The company protested when a broader contract to keep the stockpile up-to-date was granted to Agiliti instead. The dispute was not resolved until January, when Agiliti again prevailed.

It then received thousands of ventilators — it would not say how many — for restoration, and that work is still underway.

A spokeswoman for Health and Human Services did not respond to questions about what had happened to ventilator maintenance during the lapse, but she said the agency had sped up the contract with Agiliti to make the remaining 2,109 ventilators available by April 30.

As of Wednesday morning, FEMA had sent about 7,000 ventilators to a number of states, with 4,000 directed to New York. Mr. Trump said he wanted to hold the current stockpile in reserve until it was clear where new hot spots would emerge.

Even with the federal help, states are scrambling for their own ventilators. They have flooded the few manufacturers in the country with orders, only to discover that the machines are largely made abroad, in China, Ireland, Switzerland and elsewhere.

“We’re very short,” Gov. Ned Lamont of Connecticut said on CNN on Monday. “We had our ventilators all set to come, and at the last moment FEMA redirected them,” he said, to “another place that they considered more urgent than Connecticut.”

Officials in Illinois say they asked for 4,000 and got 450. New Jersey sought 2,300 and got 300. New Mexico has only 370. Virginia requested 350 ventilators but has not received any. The governor of Illinois asked Vice President Mike Pence for 4,000 ventilators this week and was told the state would not need that many.

At the same time, states are trying to grab whatever else they can, converting anesthesia machines for use as ventilators and sometimes fashioning new valves on 3-D printers so that multiple patients can share the same machine. That has never been tested on a broad scale, and it carries some risks.

To manage the scarcity of ventilators in the stockpile, FEMA has begun sending a questionnaire to states seeking ventilators, asking about available resources and whether hospitals have tried converting anesthesia machines. A FEMA official said state leaders could submit requests for ventilators at any time but should not expect their delivery unless patients were at risk of dying within 72 hours without the devices.

And states are discovering that much of what they can get their hands on needs work.

“Devices are being deployed, and many times it’s not clear to us whether they’re from the Strategic National Stockpile or some cache of products that may have been from that specific hospital, from that specific state or maybe another entity locally,” Mr. Vacchiano said. “In many cases, especially in places like New York, we are definitely overnighting materials to step up to the plate and try to help.”

He estimated that 80 percent or more of the calls that Vyaire has received have come from the greater New York area.

“We’re not hearing or seeing units showing up being truly or fundamentally broken,” Mr. Vacchiano said. But, he conceded, “they probably have not been maintained.”
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2020-04-04, 19:49
  #2430
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av leosurvey
Rapport 4000 ventilatorer på vift: I min lilla undersökning var dessa ventilatorer tagit vägen har min utgångspunkt varit i vilket lager i NY står dessa ventilatorer?. Utgångspunkten var då att någon försökt gömma undan dessa eller någon sorts mygel transportfirma eller dylikt. Länken här under visar en judisk kille som hamstrat N95 masker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW9dpznMqAI

Det har florerat rykten om att 4000 ventilatorerna skulle ha hamnat i något lager i New Jersey eller liknande. Det är inga uppgifter jag kunnat få fram. Däremot tror jag som redan påpekats att administrationen från Fema och Trump liknar en bedrövelse. I dessa tider där man skriker efter ventilatorer så döljer sig sedan en soppa av budgivning. Exempelvis var företaget som vann budgivningen att ansvara för underhåll av ventilatorerna (företaget Agiliti ). Det har visat sig att flera av de ventilatorerna som kommer ut från FEMA har bristfälligt underhåll. Vad jag kan förstå handlar det om upphandlingar och man har hamnat i någon sorts skifteskonflikt med underhållet av ventilatorerna eftersom företaget som var före Agiliti inte är med på banan längre. Alltså man distribuerar bristfälliga ventilatorer ut i landet eftersom en ventilator har en form utav färskvaruprincipen inom sig. Filter behöver bytas osv. Så problemen hopar sig.

Min slutsats: Administartionen Fema och Trumpen behärskar inte detta. Man står med byxorna nere. Sedan ska man likt en ängel framstå som att man är distributör av ventilatorer ur sin STOCKPILE!
Det förstår Ni själva DET HÄR KOMMER INTE HÅLLA!

Nedan där jag hämtat en del av infon.

Some ventilators sent to New York hospitals from a federal stockpile are arriving damaged and without crucial parts, Business Insider has found.

They're part of an emergency shipment of 4,000 ventilators delivered across the state last week to help hospitals combat the novel coronavirus, according to someone with direct knowledge of the matter who was not authorized to speak to the press. Half were earmarked for New York City, according to Mayor Bill de Blasio.

Northwell Health, New York's largest healthcare provider, received more than 100 ventilators from the stockpile, some of which were missing hoses that pump air into patients' lungs, according to Terry Lynam, the health system's chief public-relations officer. Others lacked stands that prop up the machines, he said.

Northwell is in contact with the manufacturer to get more hoses but can operate the ventilators without the stands, Lynam said in an email. On Monday, Northwell received a large number of functioning ventilators and N95 respirators from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, he added.

"We're certainly grateful for anything we can get," Lynam said.

NewYork-Presbyterian, a network of 13 hospitals and medical centers in and around the city, received 300 ventilators from the stockpile last week. All of them were missing parts or had damaged parts, such as bacterial filters, the network of tubing that connects the ventilator to an intubated patient, or oxygen hoses. That's according to a person with direct knowledge of NewYork-Presbyterian's situation.

NewYork-Presbyterian didn't respond to requests for comment.

It's unknown how many nonworking ventilators in total were shipped to New York hospitals.

"The Strategic National Stockpile is unaware of any issues with ventilators provided to New York," a US Department of Health and Human Services representative said. "All ventilators deployed from the SNS are in operating condition and maintained based on the original manufacturer's specifications outlined in the service manual."

“We still have that first tranche of ventilators, although we’re accelerating the work to get them deployable,” Mr. Leonard said. “We haven’t seen or touched or had anything to do with the ones that have already been deployed to date.”

Ventilators are sensitive machinery that Mr. Trump described on Sunday as so complex they were like “building a car.” But, experts say, like a car, they cannot be stored for lengthy periods without maintenance. So few are surprised that as the nation’s hospitals scramble to pull together every usable ventilator they can find, some have come out of storage with depleted batteries, missing oxygen hoses and other issues.

California recently discovered that 170 of its ventilators arrived broken, disputing the claim from the Department of Health and Human Services that all of the ventilators shipped by the Federal Emergency Management Agency were ready to use. The agency said in a statement that problems with some ventilators were limited to the devices’ external batteries, and that federal officials were quick to assist the states with any technical issues.

Federal officials revealed on Wednesday that their stockpile of medical gear was nearly depleted. FEMA has shipped 26 million surgical masks, 11.6 million respirator masks and more than five million face shields to states, setting off a race to obtain millions of recently produced masks from a variety of manufacturers at a moment of huge price spikes for respirators that previously sold for about 85 cents.

The bigger struggle, however, has focused on ventilators because states have asked for tens of thousands more than the approximately 9,400 that the U.S. government currently has in its stockpile. The Defense Department is also making 1,065 ventilators available, although those require special training and are not used as frequently in hospitals.

As White House officials have for the first time looked at a supply they had not thought about, they have discovered it is not only far smaller than what they need — it is also in constant need of maintenance.

Aric Vacchiano, the vice president of U.S. sales and services at Vyaire Medical in Chicago, which produces the LTV 1200, one of the ventilators in the federal stockpile, said the company had been fielding calls from all over the country as hospital officials rushed to get the machines in working order.

“They’re reaching out in every direction,” Mr. Vacchiano said.

Vyaire was responsible for maintaining some of the ventilators in the federal stockpile until that contract ran out in late August. The company protested when a broader contract to keep the stockpile up-to-date was granted to Agiliti instead. The dispute was not resolved until January, when Agiliti again prevailed.

It then received thousands of ventilators — it would not say how many — for restoration, and that work is still underway.

A spokeswoman for Health and Human Services did not respond to questions about what had happened to ventilator maintenance during the lapse, but she said the agency had sped up the contract with Agiliti to make the remaining 2,109 ventilators available by April 30.

As of Wednesday morning, FEMA had sent about 7,000 ventilators to a number of states, with 4,000 directed to New York. Mr. Trump said he wanted to hold the current stockpile in reserve until it was clear where new hot spots would emerge.

Even with the federal help, states are scrambling for their own ventilators. They have flooded the few manufacturers in the country with orders, only to discover that the machines are largely made abroad, in China, Ireland, Switzerland and elsewhere.

“We’re very short,” Gov. Ned Lamont of Connecticut said on CNN on Monday. “We had our ventilators all set to come, and at the last moment FEMA redirected them,” he said, to “another place that they considered more urgent than Connecticut.”

Officials in Illinois say they asked for 4,000 and got 450. New Jersey sought 2,300 and got 300. New Mexico has only 370. Virginia requested 350 ventilators but has not received any. The governor of Illinois asked Vice President Mike Pence for 4,000 ventilators this week and was told the state would not need that many.

At the same time, states are trying to grab whatever else they can, converting anesthesia machines for use as ventilators and sometimes fashioning new valves on 3-D printers so that multiple patients can share the same machine. That has never been tested on a broad scale, and it carries some risks.

To manage the scarcity of ventilators in the stockpile, FEMA has begun sending a questionnaire to states seeking ventilators, asking about available resources and whether hospitals have tried converting anesthesia machines. A FEMA official said state leaders could submit requests for ventilators at any time but should not expect their delivery unless patients were at risk of dying within 72 hours without the devices.

And states are discovering that much of what they can get their hands on needs work.

“Devices are being deployed, and many times it’s not clear to us whether they’re from the Strategic National Stockpile or some cache of products that may have been from that specific hospital, from that specific state or maybe another entity locally,” Mr. Vacchiano said. “In many cases, especially in places like New York, we are definitely overnighting materials to step up to the plate and try to help.”

He estimated that 80 percent or more of the calls that Vyaire has received have come from the greater New York area.

“We’re not hearing or seeing units showing up being truly or fundamentally broken,” Mr. Vacchiano said. But, he conceded, “they probably have not been maintained.”



Bra spanat. Hur stort kan det här bli egentligen? Mycket nytt att följa nu, för det här är mycket speciellt.
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2020-04-04, 21:36
  #2431
Medlem
DjPuttes avatar
Att Trump stått med byxorna vid knäcken har det varit sedan dag 1 så det är ingen större nyhet, Att säga det är andras fel än sitt eget visar på inkompetens tyvärr!

Att dessa jäkla ventilatorer är och vart på drift har han sig själv att skylla Trumpen för håller man ingen koll via sina underställda så finns fan inga ursäkter, Men säger Fox - Breaitbart en sak så är det Trumps sanning fast alla vet annat som är vettiga personer!
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2020-04-04, 22:22
  #2432
Medlem
0rganets avatar
Oj men kolla Donald, live nu!!!!
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1246531400917893120

Om han fortsätter som han nu börjat... så har ni mycket att tycka om!

EDIT: Så här osammanhängande har Donald inte varit någonsin... Dags för Pence att kliva in "tillfälligt"..
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2020-04-04, 22:36
  #2433
Medlem
DjPuttes avatar
1min av Trumps rantande av sak samma hela jäkla tiden det är massera ens eget ego, nåja Pence fick lite beröm då men vad fan håller han på med???

Tigger Trump runt efter ventilatorer till NY från andra stater som kommer behöva det eller vad håller han på med, Lame duck och inget annat är Trump klarar inte av krisen och han klarar inte av ens hålla ett förbannade tal utan allt går ut på att hylla sig själv indirekt!
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2020-04-04, 22:41
  #2434
Medlem
0rganets avatar
Donald är verkligen inte helt ok i huvudet ikväll på denna presskonferens.

Men han är ju ledaren av det bästa landet...
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2020-04-04, 22:43
  #2435
Medlem
DaEzzs avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av 0rganet
Oj men kolla Donald, live nu!!!!
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1246531400917893120

Om han fortsätter som han nu börjat... så har ni mycket att tycka om!

EDIT: Så här osammanhängande har Donald inte varit någonsin... Dags för Pence att kliva in "tillfälligt"..

Gubben ser ut som om han har en fot i graven, glåmig och förvirrad.

Jag undrar om Trump ens försöker ha en röd tråd, läser innantill från pulpeten och improviserar med
totalt osammanhängande svammel.

Tycker nästan lite synd om honom, tyngden och de enorma konsekvenserna av hans
egen inkompetens och tillkortakommanden verkar ha landat på Trump´s ego till sist.
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2020-04-04, 22:48
  #2436
Medlem
0rganets avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av DaEzz
Gubben ser ut som om han har en fot i graven, glåmig och förvirrad.

Jag undrar om Trump ens försöker ha en röd tråd, läser innantill från pulpeten och improviserar med
totalt osammanhängande svammel.

Tycker nästan lite synd om honom, tyngden och de enorma konsekvenserna av hans
egen inkompetens och tillkortakommanden verkar ha landat på Trump´s ego till sist.

Jag undrar mest vilka droger Donald tagit. Men jag, som verkligen ogillar Pence, tror USA skulle funka bättre under klorin mannen än det som nu Donald just nu gör.
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