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Ett bra inlägg från Även min recension blir en besvikelse..
Första gången på ”nya” stället. Har varit på gamla stället på tiden det begav sig runt originalrecensionen från 2013. Och känner igen tjejnamnen från då.
Denna gång kom jag dit vid 8-tiden på kvällen och mötte bara ett gäng italienare och en kraftig tjej.
Men ingen action i något av de tre rummen. Kaffemaskinen trasig. Maten såg ofräsch ut, men försökte ändå vänta med glatt mod. En halvtimma förflöt utan action. En timma senare ingen action. En mörkhyad tjej som såg ok ut irrade omkring i lokalerna men utan antydan till att komma in i något rum.
Efter lång väntan fick jag ge upp och lämna stället som inte levererade som för 5-6 år sedan.
Ett riktigt bottennapp som inte kan rekommenderas om inte en rejäl uppryckning sker.
Istället blir Anni Porsche favorit. Tjejerna där är alldagliga med drag från turkiska hållet.
Men verkar hålla en jämnare kvalitet på sina partyn.
Första gången på ”nya” stället. Har varit på gamla stället på tiden det begav sig runt originalrecensionen från 2013. Och känner igen tjejnamnen från då.
Denna gång kom jag dit vid 8-tiden på kvällen och mötte bara ett gäng italienare och en kraftig tjej.
Men ingen action i något av de tre rummen. Kaffemaskinen trasig. Maten såg ofräsch ut, men försökte ändå vänta med glatt mod. En halvtimma förflöt utan action. En timma senare ingen action. En mörkhyad tjej som såg ok ut irrade omkring i lokalerna men utan antydan till att komma in i något rum.
Efter lång väntan fick jag ge upp och lämna stället som inte levererade som för 5-6 år sedan.
Ett riktigt bottennapp som inte kan rekommenderas om inte en rejäl uppryckning sker.
Istället blir Anni Porsche favorit. Tjejerna där är alldagliga med drag från turkiska hållet.
Men verkar hålla en jämnare kvalitet på sina partyn.
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A Talk with Mustapha
So during my visit to ERW (it was on a Monday), I sat down with Mustapha and we had the following conversation (90 percent accuracy, since there was an interpreter translating some phrases):
First off, I told Mustapha about the International Sex Forum and that I follow it and discuss ERW issues on it. I then asked him: Why don't you post on the forum? There are many questions and sometimes complaints that need your answer.
He said this: "I intentionally do not post on the forum because if I post, the readers may not believe me. They may think I'm posting to just promote the place. It is best if they write and respond to each other based on their experience. That would be more credible".
Then I said: "Some of the complaints talk about the slowness of the experience, low number of girls, increased prices. What are you doing to improve this?
Mustapha: "The customers need to understand something very important: there are two phases for ERW: the phase before the law, and the phase after the law".
Mustapha explained that before the new prostitution law, ERW was at Karl Marx street; a location that was very suitable to the customers and the ladies. As a result, ERW got more customers (more revenue) and so it was able to get more girls everyday. The prostitution law changed many things, and imposed new regulations that forced a business like ERW to pay heavy costs and eventually relocate. "Less customers started coming, and so I had much less money to pay the ladies. Some ladies live an hour away from our current location and no longer find it feasible to come here" he said "Back at Karl Marx, it was easy for everyone and we had no pressure from the law".
Extra payments and legal issues:
Me: What extra payments did you have to make because of the law?
Mustapha: "Besides the costs related to the change of location and the extra taxes, I also had to find a very good lawyer and pay him good money to make sure this business is totally legal and represent me at the authorities" he said. He then pointed to the fire escape exit outside his building. "See this? I had to pay 40,000 Euros just for this, because of the new law!
He then explained that some months ago, the law enforcement police came to check the place. Mustafa presented all the necessary papers and tax payment receipts and showed them around the place and they verified that everything complies with the new law.
"And just look around you" he said, "How many customers?" (we were 7) , ". This is a very low number. Some of my ladies wanted to come but I told them not to because I don't have money to pay them" he said.
Copenhagen's 15 euros:
When talking about some of the 'challenging' customers he often gets, Mustapha gave this example:
Mustapha: "One time, a customer from Denmark came in early, paid 100 euros and fucked for 10 hours. But he needed 10 euros back. .I forgot his name".
Me: Probably he goes by the name of Copenhagen on the forum. Right?
Mustapha: Yes yes! Copenhagen. That's him.
Mustapha: ". So yeah, he needed 10 euros back. At that time I honestly did not have a change to give him, so I told him that I'll pay him back as soon as I get a change. But! He kept coming back to me every 30 minutes asking for a change, and I kept telling him that I honestly do not have. Still, he kept insisting and repeating his demand. Then I explained to him that back in Denmark I had to pay 250 euros for a service like this, and here you are paying barely 100 euros and complaining.
Me: "Okay, but the 250 euros price in Denmark isn't his problem is it?
Mustapha: "Yes yes I know! But still, the way he insisted although I told him I had no change at the moment was very annoying. He should have calmed down and showed more patience given the greatly low price he's paying".
At the end of the discussion, Mustapha made clear one thing:
"I am not doing all this for the money. I'm doing this because I love it and I love the people working with me, and I love making customers happy".
My conclusions:
Based on my experience on that day, my observations and my talk with Mustapha, here are my main conclusions:
1) The business conditions for ERW have changed greatly after the law, making it more difficult for it to operate as previously: in terms of quality of ladies, number of customers, prices, duration of sessions. Etc.
2) Customers need to be understanding of this new situation in point 1 above, but many of them are not, or are simply not aware of that and just judge ERW based on the degrading experience without considering the factors which are beyond Mustapha's control.
3) Mustapha is honestly doing the best he could to keep the business running in the best form possible. But many things are not in his control. Still, he is trying. He has spent money, time, legal fees, lost business, sacrificed some ladies and many others.
4) As customers we need to limit our expectations and be patient. We should no longer expect to see the same quality and vibe as the pre-law Karl Marx phase. We also should learn to accept whatever good times we get during our stay at ERW, as long as they're not too annoying or unacceptable – which rarely happens.
5) Let us take it easy on Mustapha. He is trying, but many things are not in his control. ERW is a very difficult business and is very unique in the market.
So during my visit to ERW (it was on a Monday), I sat down with Mustapha and we had the following conversation (90 percent accuracy, since there was an interpreter translating some phrases):
First off, I told Mustapha about the International Sex Forum and that I follow it and discuss ERW issues on it. I then asked him: Why don't you post on the forum? There are many questions and sometimes complaints that need your answer.
He said this: "I intentionally do not post on the forum because if I post, the readers may not believe me. They may think I'm posting to just promote the place. It is best if they write and respond to each other based on their experience. That would be more credible".
Then I said: "Some of the complaints talk about the slowness of the experience, low number of girls, increased prices. What are you doing to improve this?
Mustapha: "The customers need to understand something very important: there are two phases for ERW: the phase before the law, and the phase after the law".
Mustapha explained that before the new prostitution law, ERW was at Karl Marx street; a location that was very suitable to the customers and the ladies. As a result, ERW got more customers (more revenue) and so it was able to get more girls everyday. The prostitution law changed many things, and imposed new regulations that forced a business like ERW to pay heavy costs and eventually relocate. "Less customers started coming, and so I had much less money to pay the ladies. Some ladies live an hour away from our current location and no longer find it feasible to come here" he said "Back at Karl Marx, it was easy for everyone and we had no pressure from the law".
Extra payments and legal issues:
Me: What extra payments did you have to make because of the law?
Mustapha: "Besides the costs related to the change of location and the extra taxes, I also had to find a very good lawyer and pay him good money to make sure this business is totally legal and represent me at the authorities" he said. He then pointed to the fire escape exit outside his building. "See this? I had to pay 40,000 Euros just for this, because of the new law!
He then explained that some months ago, the law enforcement police came to check the place. Mustafa presented all the necessary papers and tax payment receipts and showed them around the place and they verified that everything complies with the new law.
"And just look around you" he said, "How many customers?" (we were 7) , ". This is a very low number. Some of my ladies wanted to come but I told them not to because I don't have money to pay them" he said.
Copenhagen's 15 euros:
When talking about some of the 'challenging' customers he often gets, Mustapha gave this example:
Mustapha: "One time, a customer from Denmark came in early, paid 100 euros and fucked for 10 hours. But he needed 10 euros back. .I forgot his name".
Me: Probably he goes by the name of Copenhagen on the forum. Right?
Mustapha: Yes yes! Copenhagen. That's him.
Mustapha: ". So yeah, he needed 10 euros back. At that time I honestly did not have a change to give him, so I told him that I'll pay him back as soon as I get a change. But! He kept coming back to me every 30 minutes asking for a change, and I kept telling him that I honestly do not have. Still, he kept insisting and repeating his demand. Then I explained to him that back in Denmark I had to pay 250 euros for a service like this, and here you are paying barely 100 euros and complaining.
Me: "Okay, but the 250 euros price in Denmark isn't his problem is it?
Mustapha: "Yes yes I know! But still, the way he insisted although I told him I had no change at the moment was very annoying. He should have calmed down and showed more patience given the greatly low price he's paying".
At the end of the discussion, Mustapha made clear one thing:
"I am not doing all this for the money. I'm doing this because I love it and I love the people working with me, and I love making customers happy".
My conclusions:
Based on my experience on that day, my observations and my talk with Mustapha, here are my main conclusions:
1) The business conditions for ERW have changed greatly after the law, making it more difficult for it to operate as previously: in terms of quality of ladies, number of customers, prices, duration of sessions. Etc.
2) Customers need to be understanding of this new situation in point 1 above, but many of them are not, or are simply not aware of that and just judge ERW based on the degrading experience without considering the factors which are beyond Mustapha's control.
3) Mustapha is honestly doing the best he could to keep the business running in the best form possible. But many things are not in his control. Still, he is trying. He has spent money, time, legal fees, lost business, sacrificed some ladies and many others.
4) As customers we need to limit our expectations and be patient. We should no longer expect to see the same quality and vibe as the pre-law Karl Marx phase. We also should learn to accept whatever good times we get during our stay at ERW, as long as they're not too annoying or unacceptable – which rarely happens.
5) Let us take it easy on Mustapha. He is trying, but many things are not in his control. ERW is a very difficult business and is very unique in the market.
