Nationalister-hur knäcker vi frimurarväldet i Sverige?

Styrdes VAM av frimurarna? Just det ifrågasätter jag nog. BSS kan jag tänka mig dock.

Var det inte psykförsvaret självt som skapade VAM för att se vilka man kunde fånga in och isolera från demokratin?

Hehe-nu får du nog komma med lite belägg. Däremot kan jag tänka mig att statsmakterna gärna studerar den typen av grupper närmare för att förstå olika typer av mekanismer både på individ-och gruppnivå.

Alltså... "psykförsvaret" (SPF/MSB) är inte de du tror att de är... Deras mest odemokratiska uppgift var att hålla reda på vilka journalister som egentligen var sovjettrogna (en rätt svår uppgift om man tänker på att svenska journalister är vänster som standard redan innan främmande makt kommer in i bilden). Det gör de inte ens längre, nu sysslar de mest med krisberedskap.

why the hell do you think you are being leeched upon by zionist bankers and immigrants then?

BECAUSE 9 OUT OF 10 HOURS YOU BUST YOUR ASS OFF AT (NOW) CHINESE OWNED VOLVO, YOU FEED ON THESE "PEOPLE"!!!

The zionist bankers wouldnt be there if there was no cash for them to get!

Oh, and dont buy into these new "currencies" like bitcoin, gold etc .... they atleast control the goldmarket. If you manage to build up an underground economy, YOU should come up with YOUR OWN currency, which you print or control, and that other swedes that want to "join in" have to buy from you.

Then you will do exactly like the zionist bankers and be filthy rich somewhere down the line, if you succeed. And i cant see how you wouldnt, as leeched upon as each swedish worker and businessman is now, if you manage to get a tax-refusing system d-economy established.

Everyone joining in, despite buying the currency from you guys, would profit imensley for it. Why buy a diesel aggregate from a store if they can get it from you to 1/6th of the price? Even if you dont make it yourself, there are lots of Chinese-made diesel aggregates are excellent i hear and better than what you get in the shops here, so are the solar panels and they cost a fraction of what you pay for it here, they arent CE-approved but they are top notch. While there are mostly JUNK and TRASH from china you better avoid buying, some of it is well-made if you know what to look for, and that can be taken in in smaller amounts in bulk and sold/circulated in an underground economy. Hell, i would do that if i knew where to sell it, i could run an underground hardware store with low cost stuff from turd world countries and things i produce myself if i just knew where i could find buyers for this stuff, other than on "open" forums like finn.no etc where i quickly could have the taxman after me. And why buy potatoes from the store if they can get it fresh, organically from you for 1/5th of the price? etc.

I dont know for sure, and to be honest i really dont care, i just know they bring bad business and i dont want to do business with them, i rather do business with asians for example, much better business ethics.

Dude, we have our own currency, lol?


You worry to much, its about doing business with right business men, Americans are stupid and dont have any things to offer me that i want or need. Asia have however, shitloads.


Gas? No i think thats about to change soon to be honest.

Ja VAM/BSS var samma idé som SvP/SD är nu. En hardcore en lite mer soft.

It's illegal though, as in Sweden you'd need to pay tax even when you barter.

again, im not american, i am norwegian, but swedes seem to have a hard time understanding norwegian, i didnt know you had a hard time understanding english too

you could have your own currency if you have built up a large enough barter network. You just dont call it a currency, call it barter-notes, credit-notes or something like that. Bitcoin is already here and works like this, where is the crackdown? Even towns around in uk etc have local currencies.

I am aware you in theory have to pay tax, but if you do, you will not be able to build up a shadow economy because that would destroy it, and you would let the leechers that leech of you in the current economy leech on you in the shadow economy so the whole point would be gone. You do this to rip the straw they suck your blood out with out of they're mouths. It has to be done in a way where its semi-legal, or not so illegal you get the cops after you. Thats why its called a shadow-economy, because it isnt a part of the "open" economy.

And yes i agree, asia is awsome. Just avoid chinese products, they are junk for the most part. The exeption is spec diesel aggregates, solar panels and alot of the electronics, you get mobile phones etc to prices thats unheard of in the west and that work perfectly fine, they dont have to be quality and last 2 decades, mobile phones is something people throw away in 4-5 years time max anyway, and they will last that long.

I heard the chinese copies western and japanese products using castings, so chinese made mechanical watches etc are litteraly castings of western watches, thats why most of the chinese stuff is pure trash. But the way they make diesel aggregates, solar etc there are top notch. Indian clothes are extremely cheap. Ive own some tactical-oriented stuff from a chinese company named condour that is great etc. It isnt CE-approved which it has to be to be legally sold in EU, which is a slow, beurocratic and expensive process, thats why you wont find most of the cheap goodies sold in europe, but this is stuff that could be taken in and sold in a system D economy, beside home produced goods.

I thought you mentioned earlier in our conversation that you were scottish?


I think you think a little to personal, nationalism is about state and people and the thriving relationship between the 2.


Well i am more into a energy sort of business, not plastic products themselfs. But i like plastic to, good product also. Just a bit promblematic in the recycling progess.


Well, knowledge is more my priority than producs in the end. But anyway, its no point we get into this discussion anyway, you can speculate and talk about these things forever without getting to any rational conclusions.


well you heard, you do seem to hear alot of stuff about everything.

(FB) Polisens utredare vill förbjuda civilt ägda vapen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FinRqCocwGE

this is system D in pakistan. Thats the outer edge of the system d economy. This would be going over the edge now, but if guns are outlawed completely, ofcourse people that would buy guns legally will look for it illegally on the black market instead, like they do in pakistan where gunlaws are strict, but where noone gives a shit about neither gunlaws or paying tax. Its the simple action of supply and demand.

And the zionist bankers arent exactly that strong in those areas either, there are no cash for them to get there yet the economy in these places are still operational. I think its possible to do it better than they do it in these tribal areas though, the fact these areas are as fucked up as they are doesnt mean swedes have to do the same thing, or produce AK47's for that matter.

Thing is, you sort of choose to feed on the zionist bankers by your actions. When you hand them over money voluntarily and feed on them, ofcourse they'll take it. Swedes are such great obedient slaves that you'll never get rid of them as long as you are still alive, thing is they feel threatend by you after that story with Hitler, so they want you gone. But you dont even seem to think its a problem you feed on these "people". Then i dont get what you complain about regarding zionist bankers either.

Well as i mentioned, the goverment officials has to be changed.

I would not bann guns from private use, every individual have the freedom to protect themselfs with whatever means necessary. I kind of like the americans constitutional gun right thing, probably will help the americans not to be overun by their corrupted state. I am more of a fist guy myself though.


Absolutely not. Zionist's gives us sort of a reality that we can accept or not accept, like TV sitcoms, Hollywood, overmaterialism, fastfood and etc. Thats all i see as a "threat", possible the huge army that the americans have, but to be honest, i dont think americans dares to invade Sweden, and i dont think Russia dares to either. I have myself a spent alot of time with Russians and we have no problem getting along, and even do business family with family.