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Då tycker jag att du ska gå till universitetet och låna dokumentet i fråga och kopiera den text du tycker stöder din tes.Återigen,jag tänker inte leta efter bevis som stöder DIN tes när du inte ens bryr dig om att läsa mina,citat: "random länkar".
Jag har artikeln.
But Jews abounded at the lower levels of the party machinery - especially, in the Cheka and its successors the GPU, the OGPU and the NKVD. (In the issue of Pravda for 20 December 1937 there is a list of 407 officials of the NKVD, decorated on the occasion of the 20th anniversary of the Cheka. Forty-two of the names, or about eleven per cent, are Jews, and the actual total of Jews may well have been higher,since many of them may be supposed to have adopted Russian names.
Jag väljer även att hänvisa till Kevin Macdonals bok ' the culture of critique' för påståendet att judarnas makt höll i sig till slutet av 40-talet/början av 50-talet.
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Det räcker dessutom att läsa titeln "The role of the jews in the russian revolutionary movement" för att förstå att artikeln handlar om revolutionsrörelsen före 1917.
Vi pratar 40-tal i den här tråden,då var revolutionen sedan länge över.Jag har visat dig en siffra på att endast 5% av Sovjets regering bestod av judar.Var är dina siffror?Om du läst artikeln i fråga så borde du åtminstone kunna minnas en procentsats om någon sådan överhuvudtaget finns i dokumentet!
Vi pratar 40-tal i den här tråden,då var revolutionen sedan länge över.Jag har visat dig en siffra på att endast 5% av Sovjets regering bestod av judar.Var är dina siffror?Om du läst artikeln i fråga så borde du åtminstone kunna minnas en procentsats om någon sådan överhuvudtaget finns i dokumentet!
Jaja, kom du med dina antaganden du som inte ens sett artikeln utan bara gissar från titeln
Du har givetvis fel som vanligt vilket ovanstående citat visar.
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Föga förvånande så bygger Kues antagande att det ryms 8 lik per kvadratmeter på att liken varit fullt friska människor med ideallängd och idealvikt!
Här är en länk till James Randis blogg som behandlar massgravarna i Bełżec.Även här används 8 lik per kvadratmeter som felaktig grund för beräkning:
Här är en länk till James Randis blogg som behandlar massgravarna i Bełżec.Även här används 8 lik per kvadratmeter som felaktig grund för beräkning:
Som vanligt så ljuger du. Kues citerar Mattognos uträkningar om Treblinka där man baserar siffran 8 kroppar per kubik meter på vad man funnit i andra massgravar. Han skriver också uttryckligen att;
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On the basis of his investigations of the mass graves of Hamburg (Anglo- American terror-bombardment of July 1943), Katyn (Soviet mass murder of Polish officers, 1940) and Bergen-Belsen (mass deaths from typhus in spring 1945), John Ball came to the conclusion that one could assume a maximum of six bodies per cubic meter in a mass grave.390 This number seems quite high if one keeps in mind that in Treblinka I, the work camp, the Soviets found 105 bodies in a grave with an effective volume of 75 m3 – therefore 1.4 bodies per cubic meter, and that the medical expert Piotrowski, in his first calculation of the content of the mass graves, set a figure of six bodies per 2 cubic meters, thus 3 bodies per cubic meter, half the density proposed by Ball.391 However, in order to take into account the hypothetical existence of children as comprising onethird of the victims, we assume a density of a maximum of 8 bodies per cubic meter.
Vad gäller Robert Muehlerkamps (som skriver på bloggen du länkar till) övriga gnäll så har Mattogno bemött det här;
http://codoh.com/library/document/975
Mattogno skriver;
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n order to calculate the number of corpses per cubic meter, Muehlenkamp relies on the “eyewitness” Kurt Gerstein who, in reference to the victims of Bełżec, states in one of his writings that “more than half are children”. He moreover refers to the diary of a German non-commissioned officer, Wilhelm Cornides, whom he quotes from an English translation available online at http://www.deathcamps.org/Belzec/rawacornides.html. This text was published in its original language in 1959 under the title Zur “Umsiedlung” der Juden im Generalgouvernement[42]. Cornides describes the arrival of a train to the station of Rawa-Ruska, evidently destined for Bełżec, which consisted of 35 cattle wagons, each containing “at least 60 Jews”, in total 2,100, of which many were women and children – a detail emphasized by Muehlenkamp. Cornides remarks that “some of the doors were opened a crack”, which means that he made his observations through these small openings and windows. The accuracy of this method is easy to imagine.
Muehlenkamp’s pretension to draw from this single observation (a very small part of the Jewish deportees in the 35 wagons) a general picture of the composition of the 434,508 deported to Bełżec is obviously infantile. The same goes for the supposed “observation” of Gerstein relating to a single transport of 6,700 Jews, representing 1.5% of the total deported.
Muehlenkamp’s pretension to draw from this single observation (a very small part of the Jewish deportees in the 35 wagons) a general picture of the composition of the 434,508 deported to Bełżec is obviously infantile. The same goes for the supposed “observation” of Gerstein relating to a single transport of 6,700 Jews, representing 1.5% of the total deported.
Han skriver vidare om Muehlenkamps uträkningar om vikten;
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This 35 kg medium weight is nothing but a groundless conjecture by Gerstein, since he is supposed to have made his estimate by looking at the 750 supposed victims, then calculating in his head their medium weight, yet in his declarations he has miscalculated even the abovementioned elementary multiplications! Moreover, in another declaration made to the French authorities, Gerstein stated the medium weight of the victims as 65 kg[50]. The reliability of Gerstein’s stories has been contested even by Tregenza, who classifies “Gerstein’s material” as “questionable” and “even belonging to the realm of fantasy in some places”[51]. In the same document which gives the medium weight as 35 kg, Gerstein, among other things, estimated the number of the victims of Hitler and Himmler to “at least 20,000,000” (twenty million)[52] and talks of a heap of clothing at Bełżec measuring “35 or 40 meters in height”[53], while on the other hand Wilhelm Pfannenstiel, who accompanied Gerstein on his visit to the camp, spoke of a ”pile of textiles with a height of 3 to 4 m”[54]. Thus Gerstein’s 35 kg estimate is of little value. Provan on his hand has assumed a still lower medium weight: (63 + 62 + 49 + 25 + 26 + 19 + 15 + 7 [the doll!]) ÷ 8 = 33.25 kg! Considering that the weight of the doll is equivalent to that of a 5-6 months baby, and that the weight of one of the adults corresponds to the medium weight of children between 14 and 16 years of age, this means that in actuality Provan’s experiment is founded on the assumption that the Jews deported to Bełżec were exclusively babies and children of 16 or under, whose medium weight, as has been noted, was 35 kg – without any adults. This in turn would mean that 5/8 of the approximately 434,000 deported, that is 271,250, would have been children from small babies up to 8 years of age, while the remaining 3/8, that is 162,750, were children between 14 and 16 years old!
Jag har faktiskt inte undersökt frågan. Enligt den vanliga synen så ska de inte ha varit det men då andra sidan så blir man ofta förvånad av hur mycket om NS som inte stämmer när man undersöker det kritiskt. 
Bara för jag ville checka upp ditt länknamntips. Nej jag har inte emot revisionistiska sidor, men lärt mig man ska ej lita på dem. Och du gör det inte bättre ... med ha förtroende för dem.
