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Som sagt går det att tänka sig att vissa av de vakter, som faktiskt har varit uppe i rättegång, i förhör erkänt saker de inte gjort.
Och vad innebär det att sånt
går att tänka sig?
Att
nån annan gjort det?
Eller att ”sakerna” inte hänt?
Blir den sistnämnda slutsatsen möjlig för eftervärlden, efter ett sådant återkallande av ett erkännande?
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Men som sagt har de haft hela livet på sig att bevisa sin oskuld vid något annat tillfälle - medan de varit på flykt i Sydamerika eller någon annanstans, i fängelset, eller efter att de muckat.
”…sin oskuld…” : hur skulle bevisföringen gå till? Vem skulle tro dom?
Skulle deras ”bevis” gå ut på att ange
nån annan som skyldig?
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De har inte ens låtit sig intervjuas av någon "revisionist".
Däremot av antirevisionister:
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Frenzel was sent to Sobibor from Hadamar, a sanitarium where mentally ill Germans were gassed in the course of the euthanasia program. I mentioned Hadamar and asked how he felt killing Germans. His voice became angry. The tape ran out and so as not to jeopardize the interview, I did not insist on an answer.
I decided to ask less personal questions. Did he remember "Berliner"(Berliner was an Oberkapo, killed by the Jews for cruelty to his fellow prisoners). I asked if it was true that he gave permission to the Jews to kill him. He leaned back in his chair, like an executive, "Yes," he answered confidently, "when I think back hard, it was so. My Kapo from the Bahnhofkommando told me about Berliner, then I think I said 'Butcher him to death', or something similar." His tone was frighteningly casual, as if he were speaking of getting rid of rotten potatoes. In fact, he didn't do it because he was on the prisoners' side, but because he was furious that Berliner went above his head to SS Wagner.
I asked him about Cukerman (given over one hundred lashes, his body was left in a pool of blood). Yes, he remembered, he was the cook. There were five to eight kilos of meat missing, so he gave him a beating. "..Later the meat turned up and Cukerman's son said 'My father did nothing, it was me who had taken the meat.' So I gave them both twenty-five lashes. I want you to know I was always fair. I never punished unless they had done something wrong." I did not comment, but I was thinking he wasn't always so lenient. Another survivor testified in court that Frenzel caught his fifteen year old friend helping himself to a can of sardines and took him to the crematorium where he was shot.
I had another leading question. What had happened to the Dutch Jews? He immediately knew what I meant. Like a superior officer, he answered swiftly and to the point, "A Polish Kapo told me some Dutch Jews were organizing an escape, so I relayed it to Deputy Commandant Niemann and he ordered the seventy-two Jews to be executed." He failed to mention that he alone led them to be killed. And I could not help noting that his voice and bearing were more forceful now and there was a feeling of competence and pride about his work.
http://www.sobibor.info/confrontation.html
Karl Frenzel erkände i efterhand (inför en väntade ”appeal”!!) allt han dömts för, över ett glas öl med Thomas Blatt, som han tvingade att tortera och mörda andra judar i Sobibor:
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"What do you say," I asked him," when many Germans say it wasn't so, that it never happened?" He answered, "I say it's exactly true, it's not right to say it never happened." I asked further, "So why don't you go to a magazine or newspaper and say openly: 'I'm German, I was there in charge. I worked there, and it's true.'? He said that if he told them the way Jews were murdered, he would be afraid, like the Jew, Kornfeld. (Supposedly Kornfeld, a Sobibor survivor living in Brazil, had refused to testify against SS Wagner, for fear of reprisals against him).
http://www.sobibor.info/confrontation.html
Kanske dom är/var rädda för revisionisterna?
Hell knows no fury like a revisionist scorned?
Eller vet dom villkoren för följande straffpåföljd? :
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Our interview was over.
So, repentant as he claims to be, he will not speak out. He is now a free man living at home (under the pretense of illness), even though his appeal was lost on September 12, l985 and he was given a life sentence once more.
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Och så har vi alla de vakter som levt hela sina liv efter kriget på fri fot. Idag har nästan alla dött av hög ålder. Men ingen av dem har skrivit någon bok eller något brev där de avslöjat sammansvärjningen. De har inte ens låtit sig intervjuas av någon "revisionist".
Det dröjde 124 år innan Galileos ”eppur si muove” –yttrande blev ”widely published” – så det är inte försent än?
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The legend first became widely published in Querelles Littéraires (1761), recounting a tale published by an Italian living in London in 1757 (
124 years after the supposed utterance).[1]
In 1911, the famous line was found on a Spanish painting owned by a Belgian family, dated 1643 or 1645. The painting is obviously ahistorical, since it depicts Galileo in a dungeon, but nonetheless proves that some variants of the "E pur si muove" legend had been circulating for over a century before it was published[2], perhaps even in his own lifetime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pur_si_muove!
Finns det andra metoder att kontrollera skådeprocessdomar än att vänta på besök från herr Ågren?