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Good Grief - It's the Gripen!
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Good Grief - It's the Gripen!
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=114964
Från användare Loke
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showpost.php?p=1857472&postcount=30
Citat:
Back in 2009 Saab told the Swiss that the updated 2015 system would have endurance of X hours. IF the Swiss had entered this into their formula for calculating the score, they would have gotten a score equal to or larger than 6. However since a lot of development work needed to be done, the Swiss decided to multiply the value X with, say, 0.6 to account for this risk. This would give a new, lower endurance value which would result in a lower score (say, 4) and therefore below the minimum threshold.
Then in 2011 Saab gives their last update. Risk has been reduced and therefore the risk weighting factor changes from 0.6 to 0.95. The score changes from 4 to 6.
It seems many French (and a few Swiss) are claiming the process has been "messy", "poor", or even worse than that, when all the official information we have received so far seem to indicate the exact opposite.
Had they ignored all the progress that has been made since 2009, there would have been good reason to say that the process was not sound. It would have been incredibly stupid to close they eyes and say "we pretend that nothing has changed since 2009".
Then in 2011 Saab gives their last update. Risk has been reduced and therefore the risk weighting factor changes from 0.6 to 0.95. The score changes from 4 to 6.
It seems many French (and a few Swiss) are claiming the process has been "messy", "poor", or even worse than that, when all the official information we have received so far seem to indicate the exact opposite.
Had they ignored all the progress that has been made since 2009, there would have been good reason to say that the process was not sound. It would have been incredibly stupid to close they eyes and say "we pretend that nothing has changed since 2009".
Från användare Loke
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Citat:
Can you understand that there is now a media circus is coming?
Partly. There are some who doubt whether everything is up politically and technically correct. Since I can only say that I am fully committed, even though I am no longer responsible. I put my hand into the fire, that's what I'm headed and what we did, was made possible. The three candidate countries have confirmed that we have the most challenging but also a fair evaluation conducted. The more it is now a mess, that recently reached an interim report to the public. This interim report is taken out of context and does not show the context of the overall evaluation. Finally, we were obliged to discretion. As someone has acted criminally. The report is subject to military Vertaulichkeit.
Partly. There are some who doubt whether everything is up politically and technically correct. Since I can only say that I am fully committed, even though I am no longer responsible. I put my hand into the fire, that's what I'm headed and what we did, was made possible. The three candidate countries have confirmed that we have the most challenging but also a fair evaluation conducted. The more it is now a mess, that recently reached an interim report to the public. This interim report is taken out of context and does not show the context of the overall evaluation. Finally, we were obliged to discretion. As someone has acted criminally. The report is subject to military Vertaulichkeit.
Citat:
Why are these reports are subject to the confidentiality level?
The present provider fillet pieces on their aircraft. You must disclose all the technology behind it, the used system services and computer programs, everything. Since it is understandable that these secret data should be treated as confidential. There are trade secrets as elsewhere. However, the standstill agreement and promise was unfortunately injured, has been abused. This confidence in Switzerland has been weakened even more, as with the banks. That annoys me. Which is to say, that this is an early 2008 report concerns that arose before the first full report.
The present provider fillet pieces on their aircraft. You must disclose all the technology behind it, the used system services and computer programs, everything. Since it is understandable that these secret data should be treated as confidential. There are trade secrets as elsewhere. However, the standstill agreement and promise was unfortunately injured, has been abused. This confidence in Switzerland has been weakened even more, as with the banks. That annoys me. Which is to say, that this is an early 2008 report concerns that arose before the first full report.
Citat:
Switzerland is not buying now, but the aircraft that are flown. What's the difference?
There are four points that have been improved. These include, first, a more powerful engine, the 33-percent more power than that of C / D. The plane was modified so that it can accommodate a larger tank. In addition, 46 percent more kerosene to be carried in the aircraft. It has two other Waffenaufhängestationen. Fourth, a very modern radar was installed, the Aesa radar. This radar does not work mechanically, but with an active electronic beam steering
There are four points that have been improved. These include, first, a more powerful engine, the 33-percent more power than that of C / D. The plane was modified so that it can accommodate a larger tank. In addition, 46 percent more kerosene to be carried in the aircraft. It has two other Waffenaufhängestationen. Fourth, a very modern radar was installed, the Aesa radar. This radar does not work mechanically, but with an active electronic beam steering
Citat:
When a Swiss pilot, flying its first Gripen E / F?
At least in the first week of May this year, a test pilot of an Air Force pilot and Armasuisse the new Gripen E / F (technology demonstrator) as two-seaters.
At least in the first week of May this year, a test pilot of an Air Force pilot and Armasuisse the new Gripen E / F (technology demonstrator) as two-seaters.
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Citat:
How do you rate the three pilot jets evaluated in comparison?
As a evaluation pilot of the three aircraft will not and I am not in the public about the strengths and weaknesses of the candidates express. It's about personal privacy and our country has committed against the manufacturers and the Air Force to maintain confidentiality. I assure you, however, that the evaluation was carried out very serious and professional. I stand fully behind the evaluation and data behind the decision of the Bundesrat, that the Gripen fighter jet is the right for Switzerland.
As a evaluation pilot of the three aircraft will not and I am not in the public about the strengths and weaknesses of the candidates express. It's about personal privacy and our country has committed against the manufacturers and the Air Force to maintain confidentiality. I assure you, however, that the evaluation was carried out very serious and professional. I stand fully behind the evaluation and data behind the decision of the Bundesrat, that the Gripen fighter jet is the right for Switzerland.
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Citat:
Unless my German is dangerously defective, the following came out of the meeting -
André Blattmann, head of the army: the decision of the Bundesrat is right. He says the leadership of the army backs the Gripen. He makes the point that procurement of new fighters should not be a financial burden for other parts of Swiss defence.
Markus Gygax, head of the air force: Gripen fulfils air force requirements.
Ulrich Appenzeller, head of procurement: the evaluation was conducted professionally.
André Blattmann, head of the army: the decision of the Bundesrat is right. He says the leadership of the army backs the Gripen. He makes the point that procurement of new fighters should not be a financial burden for other parts of Swiss defence.
Markus Gygax, head of the air force: Gripen fulfils air force requirements.
Ulrich Appenzeller, head of procurement: the evaluation was conducted professionally.
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Senast redigerad av mrpreben 2012-02-19 kl. 08:50.
Senast redigerad av mrpreben 2012-02-19 kl. 08:50.
om än icke de mest hi tech.)
