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Ubbe Cykelkedja
One might think your horrendeus reputation has evolved for good reason. There might obviously be good, honest people among you, like you are claiming to be yourself and I don't dispute that. Chances are, it should. But when rampant criminality, littering of epic proportions and systematic dishonesty is part of the group, your entire reputation as a group is deeply sullied and you fall there within. Why would anyone in their right mind take a risk and pray the Irish caravan man they're talking to doesn't have bad intentions? It's common sense. You just tell them to get lost. You think we're joking? We can give you dozens and more dozens of documented examples of disgusting and criminal behaviour from Irish travellers.
As long as you don't understand this, your abysmal reputation as a group will continue to grow, to the point where you're not welcome anywhere. Swedish authorities and the police warn of you for a reason, after all, Sweden is one of the most tolerant countries in Europe, especially when it comes to the authorities. They're extremely naive and still you've managed as a group to get stuck on their radar, big time. That tells me you are extremely overrepresented when it comes to bad behaviour and have no clue when it comes to the concept of longterm consequences. Which businessmen are incompetent enough to make most potential customers treat them with disgust, before they've even said a word?
That you are banned from camping sites says it all. You have to behave in a pretty damn disgusting way to get such a ban. After all, they want to earn money and still they want nothing to do with you. The conclusion must be, camping owners feel no money is worth the effort of having you as guests and the chaos you commonly leave behind. Why take the risk that the Irishman you have in front of you is honest and respectful towards others, when chances are he isn't?
If you feel badly treated, ask your own people why this is the case and what you can do as a group to stop the scams, burglaries, thefts, leaving - literally - metric tons of trash and garbage behind and all that crap that have now been stamped on the entire group of Irish travelers.
There are few things that get Swedes as upset as disrespecting nature (apart from scamming them). The cleaning of these sites cost millions. Swedes have nothing against Irish people, but they have alot against people who can't behave in a civilized manner. And voilá, here we are and you will find it more and more difficult to establish contact with Swedes, because your reputation as dishonest criminals is growing by the day.
You should have some serious talk among you what you can do to change this reputation. If I were you and you are as honest as you claim, what are you going to do about the gangsters in your groups? If you allow the idiots in your group to behave with no common sense, you as a collective will all suffer tenfold from it. Obviously.
Sweden is full of nazis you say. Or, Sweden is getting more and more people that want nothing to do with you. That doesn't make them nazis, that has just made them less gullible (that some of you have viciously taken advantage of, we're used to people being honest), more rude and you as a group have worn out your welcome. Big time. But go ahead, pull the racist card, deflect all blame from yourselves for your collective historic behaviour and see if that makes your reputation any better. This thread about Irish travellers is in the forum "Organized chrime". Have you ever wondered why, that there might be some truth to the accusations of "nazi Sweden"? I guess not.
So you say Sweden is a tolerant country, I have met immigrants in Sweden that are now allowed even put up a satellite dish. Tolerant I think not. Its not long ago in the papers we learned that the great Swedish police had a register of all Roma including children, tolerant I think not. In the distant past the Swedish authorities sterilised gypsies in Sweden in line with their Race biology program based in Uppsala that went on until 1972. Its well noted among historians that the Third Reich copied their Race based program from Sweden. The swedes are the masters in field of eugenics. Is that tolerant I think not. Indeed Norway and Sweden have both treated the Sami peoples as second class citizens and experimented on them as well. So please shut up about a tolerant Sweden. Its reputation for fair play is not justified one bit. The swedes are good at propaganda about themselves.
I moved now to the issue of behaviour among travellers, yes this is a problem and one which older travellers like me are very concerned about, in settled people their young people have problem with youths as well, its the times we lived respect is gone. We sent home many young travellers last year back to the UK for various reasons mostly fighting and aggressive behaviour and petty thieving from shops. It had to be done as we don't want the Police on our backs 24/7. As regards dumping some travellers do this I found it easier to just follow the NCC trucks and dump were they dump as they have big sites for avfall and usually nobody stops you coming or you drop some money to the man on gate before he closes swedes love a bribe. This saves us alot hassle keeps us off the radar of the papers and keeps the environment clean.
As regards Nazis yes I believe Sweden has alot of them during world war 2 you shipped ( you increased production even to help them) Iron to Nazi Germany which many historians reckon prolonged the war by 6 months at least. Plus you let the Wehrmacht along your rail roads up into Norway, which the Norwegians remember to this day and have told me personally. You have many Neo Nazi parties in Sweden, namely SD and Svenkarnas Parti. In case of SD it accounts for 10% if an election was to be held in morning.
I signed off now as I have work to do and a large camp of people to look after in many countries not just Sweden. You can chew on my comments for abit and reflect on your countries past.