2024-12-02, 22:09
  #433
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Svenskar?
Syrier
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2024-12-02, 22:10
  #434
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Om de har rök i lungorna tex, visar på att de andats in rök

Dom hittades ju under bilen gissar på att dom dött innan bilen började brinna. Krossade förmodligen bilen väger två ton.
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2024-12-02, 22:11
  #435
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Syrier

Inte turkar?
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2024-12-02, 22:12
  #436
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Inte turkar?
Nej
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2024-12-02, 22:16
  #437
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Vågar inte ta gift men kan detta va BO?

https://www.facebook.com/share/12FJ5...ibextid=LQQJ4d

BO = brottsoffer.
Detta är en olyckshändelse. Vad menar du då med BO?
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2024-12-02, 22:17
  #438
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BO = brottsoffer.
Detta är en olyckshändelse. Vad menar du då med BO?

Det är under brottsutredning . Vållande till annans död .
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2024-12-02, 22:23
  #439
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Om den åldern stämmer kan de inte varit riktigt fastsatta iom en hittades utanför. Barn sitter bra i babyskydd och bakåtvänd stol. Sen finns det skrämmande många föräldrar som inte bryr sig om sina barns säkerhet och vänder allt för tidigt.
Om man ska spekulera så tror jag att mamman hade den minsta ettåringen i famnen och fyraåring satt nog på en kuddstol i baksätet.
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2024-12-02, 22:24
  #440
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BRIEF SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS FOR FOREIGN READERS: Fatal Car Crash in Skåne, Sweden

Sources: Excerpts from online forum discussions regarding a fatal car crash in Skåne, Sweden.
Date: December 2nd, 2024

Summary: A single-car crash on the E22 highway near Linderödsåsen resulted in the deaths of a woman and two young children aged 1 and 4. The father, identified as the driver (by some), survived with serious burns. The car, initially reported as a BMW but later potentially identified as a Renault, caught fire after leaving the road. The incident sparked controversy due to the delayed discovery of the children's bodies and speculation surrounding the cause of the crash.

Main Themes:
Responsibility and Cause of the Crash: A significant portion of the discussion revolves around attributing blame for the accident. Some users immediately assume driver error, citing potential factors like speeding, using summer tires on icy roads, or inattentiveness:
"Han var den enda som körde av och ihjäl sin familj, inte sant?" - online_always
Others defend the driver, arguing that black ice conditions on the notoriously treacherous Linderödsåsen could have caused the crash even at the speed limit:
"Det krävs inte att föraren kör som en idiot för att det ska inträffa." - WitheKnight

The Role of Ethnicity and Prejudice: A disturbing undercurrent in the discussion is the linking of the driver's presumed immigrant background to reckless driving habits. Xenophobic comments stereotype specific ethnic groups:
"Folk från mena och Afrika är mer benägna till detta, vi svenskar har ett helt annat säkerhetstänk" - Russofil
This prejudice fuels assumptions about the driver's guilt before any official investigation concludes.

Emergency Response and Accountability: The delayed discovery of the children's bodies, one inside the car and one underneath, raises concerns about the emergency response. Some criticize the firefighters for alleged negligence and failure to thoroughly search the scene:
"Någon eller några borde kanske byta jobb." - ba'loba
Others defend the responders, highlighting the chaotic nature of the scene and the potential for human error under pressure:
"Även räddningstjänsten kan bli stressade och de kanske fokuerade på de två personerna som ju var svårt skadade men vid liv" - Nestor X

The incident underscores the need for clear protocols and thorough investigations in such situations.

Important Facts and Unanswered Questions:
Car Model: Part of the cars registration plate is seen unmasked on some photos and it is established that it is a BMW 530d GT 2011 xDrive.

Road Conditions: While some argue for prevalent black ice, confirmation of the exact weather and road treatment at the time of the accident is crucial to determining the cause.

Use of Child Safety Seats: Speculation surrounds whether the children were properly secured in child safety seats. This information is vital for understanding the dynamics of the crash and potential legal repercussions.

Who drove the car: There are statements that Police in media have confirmed that the man was driving the car. It is unclear how this was established, if he had admitted that, it they say it (they arrived late to the scene), or if other witnesses saw it or if they just concluded it based on the idea that men drive (the car is owned by the woman and the man owns three cars himself).

How the children exited the car: It is said that one child was found a bit further away from the car and the other one inside or potentially under the car. This needs to be established.

Cause of death of the children: Emergency services did not see any of the kids at the scene, so ambulance and fire brigade took off quickly with the parents, leaving both children there. It is unclear if they were killed by the smash, by fire, smoke, heat, breathing gases from burning material, or if they exited the cars directly after or during the accident (the car rolled over). It is also not known if the father and or mother - both alive after the crash (mother deceased on the way to hospital, father in intensive care now) - helped the kids out of the vehicle or if they were thrown out diring the accident or if they escaped on their own.

Driver's Statement: The driver's account of the events, if he is able to provide one, will be essential to the investigation.

Official Investigation: A thorough police investigation is required to determine the cause of the crash and address the concerns regarding emergency response.

Conclusion: The tragedy of this fatal accident is compounded by the online discourse surrounding it. While some engage in constructive analysis, others resort to harmful prejudice and speculation. It is crucial to await the official investigation's findings before drawing conclusions about the cause and assigning blame. This incident serves as a stark reminder of the importance of road safety, responsible driving practices, and the need for objective, fact-based discussions surrounding such sensitive events.
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2024-12-02, 22:25
  #441
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Det är under brottsutredning . Vållande till annans död .

Ja, fast det är väl ren rutin vid såna här händelser? Detta för att polisen ska kunna få de resurser de behöver för att utreda olyckan.
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2024-12-02, 22:29
  #442
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Extremeflys avatar
Fy fan alltså vilken tragisk historia.
Mannen var inte vid medvetande när ambulans kom eller? Tänk och vakna upp till beskedet att alla 3 dog. Må dom vila i frid.
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2024-12-02, 22:33
  #443
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Fy fan alltså vilken tragisk historia.
Mannen var inte vid medvetande när ambulans kom eller? Tänk och vakna upp till beskedet att alla 3 dog. Må dom vila i frid.

Enligt uppgift (i andra hand) ska han ha varit "talbar" när de hämtade upp honom. Dock finns det någon annan uppgift om att han inte kunde göra sig förstådd utan tolk. Men det här kan vara spekulationer och trådsanningar.
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2024-12-02, 22:34
  #444
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Raggarspinns avatar
BMW diesel? inte ovanligt att dessa tar eld under färd. Det har nyligen varit två BMW med hästsläp som tagit eld under färd. En i norra bohuslän och en vid kungsbacka.
https://www.gp.se/nyheter/storgotebo...0-a0d729d56ccd
https://www.stromstadstidning.se/nyh...d-5515c8d40da9
https://www.gp.se/images/article/8dd...ZwhG4-WIDE.png
https://www.stromstadstidning.se/ima...seyyA-WIDE.jpg
https://www.autopower.se/forum/topic.asp?id=293493
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