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2020-06-01, 13:18
  #25
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Det finns ganska mycket om socialdemokratin i Freges Tagebuch. Han gillade verkligen inte socialdemokrati. Så här skrev han om liberalismen (min översättning):
9.4.1924 [...] Liberalismen har gett judarna likaberättingande och varför juden vunnit framstående positioner inom liberalismens ledarskap och använt dem till att kasta sten på Bismarck.
14.3.1924 skrev Frege om hur Bismarck insåg att socialdemokratin inte hade någon framtid. Men att "ganska många, verkar det som, har inte insett detta än [...]"

1924 var detta ganska normala åsikter. Mormor berättade att gammelmormor, som var född på 1800-talet, inte ens tålde att se en tavla med negrer som spelade jazz som hon och morfar hade...
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2020-06-01, 13:29
  #26
Medlem
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Nu hittade jag honom: Gottlob Frege.
Där ser man. Inget dåligt namn heller.

”Frege's published philosophical writings were of a very technical nature and divorced from practical issues, so much so that Frege scholar Dummett expresses his "shock to discover, while reading Frege's diary, that his hero was an anti-Semite."

After the German Revolution of 1918–19 his political opinions became more radical. In the last year of his life, at the age of 76, his diary contained political opinions opposing the parliamentary system, democrats, liberals, Catholics, the French and Jews, who he thought ought to be deprived of political rights and, preferably, expelled from Germany.

Frege confided "that he had once thought of himself as a liberal and was an admirer of Bismarck", but then sympathized with General Ludendorff. Some interpretations have been written about that time.

The diary contains a critique of universal suffrage and socialism. Frege had friendly relations with Jews in real life: among his students was Gershom Scholem, who greatly valued his teaching, and it was he who encouraged Ludwig Wittgenstein to leave for England in order to study with Bertrand Russell.

The 1924 diary was published posthumously in 1994.

Frege apparently never spoke in public about his political viewpoints.”

(Från Wikipedia.)
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2020-06-01, 13:42
  #27
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Där ser man. Inget dåligt namn heller.

”Frege's published philosophical writings were of a very technical nature and divorced from practical issues, so much so that Frege scholar Dummett expresses his "shock to discover, while reading Frege's diary, that his hero was an anti-Semite."

After the German Revolution of 1918–19 his political opinions became more radical. In the last year of his life, at the age of 76, his diary contained political opinions opposing the parliamentary system, democrats, liberals, Catholics, the French and Jews, who he thought ought to be deprived of political rights and, preferably, expelled from Germany.

Frege confided "that he had once thought of himself as a liberal and was an admirer of Bismarck", but then sympathized with General Ludendorff. Some interpretations have been written about that time.

The diary contains a critique of universal suffrage and socialism. Frege had friendly relations with Jews in real life: among his students was Gershom Scholem, who greatly valued his teaching, and it was he who encouraged Ludwig Wittgenstein to leave for England in order to study with Bertrand Russell.

The 1924 diary was published posthumously in 1994.

Frege apparently never spoke in public about his political viewpoints.”

(Från Wikipedia.)

Han var något av en intellektuell protonazist: han föraktade demokrati, socialism, fransmän och judar.
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2020-06-01, 18:18
  #28
Medlem
yz44s avatar
Man ska nog vara lite försiktig med att använda dagens värderingar på sådant som hände för länge sedan. Utan att ha den gällande tidens kontext är det lätt att det blir feltänkt.
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2020-06-01, 18:34
  #29
Medlem
You can not kill me, I am an idea. - William Pierce.

Kan det vara han?

Julius Evola?
Ernst Jünger?
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