2020-02-19, 23:27
  #3505
Medlem
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the documemt contradicts her version of events tho yes?

Not sure I get what you mean there.

If you mean that the documents prove that social services has taken action so yes, that contradicts her, maybe.

If we are gonna be totally honset about it, she have never said that the child isn't under goverment-action. She haven't confirm or denied, until today then, now she have confirmed it.

If you don't say anything, can you be contradicted??
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2020-02-19, 23:31
  #3506
Medlem
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Not sure I get what you mean there.

If you mean that the documents prove that social services has taken action so yes, that contradicts her, maybe.

If we are gonna be totally honset about it, she have never said that the child isn't under goverment-action. She haven't confirm or denied, until today then, now she have confirmed it.

If you don't say anything, can you be contradicted??

ok i understand now
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2020-02-19, 23:55
  #3507
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av vigilante99
ok i understand now

That's just semantics :-)

The truth is that she dosn't want you to spread that the child is under state-care, and she thinks that you should have taken it with her by email or a visit instead. She also think that if you think that she is such a bad mother, you should step up. It is easy, you have tried to be on the channel, and it went well for a while. Why just not try that again? She will not share documents that prove her case, because that Olivier is the important one. It dosn't matter what she say, because it will be used against her. Even what she say in this movie. But Olivier is stuck in the middle.

That something like a translation, very free translation of the part that is about you.
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2020-02-20, 01:10
  #3508
Medlem
Tack Imsdal83 och Storfittan (5+ på det roliga nicket, hehe ) för era fina ord, det värmer.

To Issys/Olivers dad; J is not blaming you per se but she expresses a disdain for people contacting her with accusations towards her abilities about the current situation, and she says that she wishes that "Olivers dad" would actually "step in and try to make a difference for the better" to improve Olivers current distressing/anxiety-inducing situation, sort of. Which is ludicrous as you very well know, you havre obviously done everything in your power to get insight into or improve Olivers situation.

If she really wants you to "step up" and help navigate as an ally towards Olivers wellbeing she could issue a "power of attorney"-document, a fullmakt, or grant you shared custody (which in Sweden does not equal shared physical custody, as in the child living one week with one parent and the other week with parent nr. 2, but refers to the involvement each parents are granted to have in decisions regarding the child as well as permitting access to documentation regarding the child in question).

However, I would advice you to leave her comments be, and regard them as coming from a person not in their right mind - basically take her comments as if they were said by a person of diminished capacity who lacks full insight into the comments made and her own fault in the matter. You know you have no responsibility in the state care decision, you know you have only Olivers wellbeing in mind and are not out for revenge towards J, and you're better off just reaching out to Oliver as a supportive adult who has no ill will for his/her (severly incompetent/challenged) mother. Remember that O has lived with J all his life and that O will likely turn against anyone putting down his (albeit incompetent) mother - so try to stay on O's good side and gain his confidence by not criticizing J right now.

J's statements about you in the latest videos are very non-accusatory compared to things she has said about you in the past so if I were you I would really just leave those comments be.


PS. If you're wondering why I take the liberty of giving you the above advice, it comes from several years of working with teens in state care with complicated relationships to a parent or both. Thread carefully when reaching out to O in this very frail and emotionally rocky situation as O is very vulnerable right now. You have a golden opportunity to form a bond now that he is out of J's imidiate influence - but in order to do so you must choose what you write carefully. That's all.

(also sorry for spelling errors etc, my phone tries to autocorrect each word into swedish constantly and I dont have time to change the settings or proofread my text right now)
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Senast redigerad av Malin.Nilsson 2020-02-20 kl. 01:21.
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2020-02-20, 01:30
  #3509
Medlem
Imsdal93s avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Kommer-vara-anon
and she thinks that you should have taken it with her by email or a visit instead.

And I've got the e-mails.
There is proof that they have been talking.
She is out of her mind. I guess she didn't expect him to share the e-mails with some of us, but hey Jewels, vi har läst och tagit del av din idioti.
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2020-02-20, 04:35
  #3510
Medlem
vigilante99s avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Malin.Nilsson
PS. If you're wondering why I take the liberty of giving you the above advice, it comes from several years of working with teens in state care with complicated relationships to a parent or both. Thread carefully when reaching out to O in this very frail and emotionally rocky situation as O is very vulnerable right now. You have a golden opportunity to form a bond now that he is out of J's imidiate influence - but in order to do so you must choose what you write carefully. That's all.

Thank you malin i agree 100% and will certainly take the advice on board.
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2020-02-20, 12:35
  #3511
Medlem
En tjej som heter Am*lia (*=e) skriver några kommentarer under Rasks video, bland annat dessa:

"Hon är en tjej nu"

och

"Hon går i min skola och är en tjej och heter issy". Hon verkar själv vara i samma ålder så verkar trovärdigt. Utifrån det kan vi alltså konstatera att:

- Issy gått tillbaka till att kalla sig Issy och identifierar sig som tjej
- Att Issy ÄNTLIGEN går i skolan.
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2020-02-20, 12:53
  #3512
Medlem
Imsdal93s avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av Malin.Nilsson
En tjej som heter Am*lia (*=e) skriver några kommentarer under Rasks video, bland annat dessa:

"Hon är en tjej nu"

och

"Hon går i min skola och är en tjej och heter issy". Hon verkar själv vara i samma ålder så verkar trovärdigt. Utifrån det kan vi alltså konstatera att:

- Issy gått tillbaka till att kalla sig Issy och identifierar sig som tjej
- Att Issy ÄNTLIGEN går i skolan.

Gick in på den tjejens Facebook.
Verkar som att hon bor i Stockholm?

Edit:
Efter lite mer undersökning verkar det som att denna tjej eventuellt också är placerad.
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Senast redigerad av Imsdal93 2020-02-20 kl. 13:00.
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2020-02-20, 13:52
  #3513
Medlem
vigilante99s avatar
seems to me that issy is thriving in the care home and getting some normality to her life.........of course she would have times that she hates it because there are rules to follow and structure to the daily routine whereas jewels would let her do anything.....it would be hard to adjust for her.......

I am moving on from my campaign against jewels, the outcome we all wanted has been achieved...issy is now safe and in a nurturing place, no matter what jewels does or says now it doesn't matter to me as it makes no difference....Her channel is followed by children so i am no longer going to work myself up about it

to everyone who made reports, thank you, issys grandparents thank you as well, you have helped to save her life and you should never forget it
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2020-02-20, 14:04
  #3514
Medlem
Imsdal93s avatar
Let's just hope that Issy gains the confidence that'll set her free. And that she one day can forgive her mother and the past, and not blame herself. And I also hope Jewels can accept the reality of this and start being true to herself, you and her daughter.

As I said before, she is capable and she is strong. She knows that there are people caring for her, all across this country and in Australia.

And I hope she can forgive us for or being harsh, there is no easy in all of this, but it'll make her future brighter, and that's what actually matters.
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Senast redigerad av Imsdal93 2020-02-20 kl. 14:06.
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2020-02-20, 15:26
  #3515
Medlem
Så hon är tjej nu. Bra hon är sötare som den tjej hon faktist är. När hon var Oliver såg hon sunkig och deprimerad ut.
Vilket hon säkert var också.
Va konstigt det blir när man samtidigt ser mamman fortsätta kalla henne för Oliver och.. *han*..
När man kommer ifrån bubblan och ser på det från håll så brukar man se sådant man kanske varit blind för tidigare. Tror säkert Issy har det tufft och att hon saknar sin mamma och morfar men samtidigt nu ser hur patetiskt deras kanal faktist är. Hoppas hon sedan kan komma hem till sin mamma och tala om att detta inte är bra för dom.
Dvs be sin mamma att sluta. Men visst vill nu mamman fortsätta och framstå som Youtubes patetiska clown så får man önska henne lycka med sin kanal.
Namnförslag till kanalen..
Youtubes clown kanske skulle passa bra eller dammvippan. Hon ser lite ut som min dammvippa i håret.
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2020-02-20, 16:38
  #3516
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av vigilante99
seems to me that issy is thriving in the care home and getting some normality to her life.........of course she would have times that she hates it because there are rules to follow and structure to the daily routine whereas jewels would let her do anything.....it would be hard to adjust for her.......

I am moving on from my campaign against jewels, the outcome we all wanted has been achieved...issy is now safe and in a nurturing place, no matter what jewels does or says now it doesn't matter to me as it makes no difference....Her channel is followed by children so i am no longer going to work myself up about it

to everyone who made reports, thank you, issys grandparents thank you as well, you have helped to save her life and you should never forget it


what did issys grandparents do?
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