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2006-10-03, 11:39
#8282
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Ursprungligen postat av Mankan
Du har fel!
Lloyd själv säger att det var själva stolpen som flög in i bilen:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread225322/pg1
"...so after inspecting the poles at the VDOT Lloyd agreed to have us over to his house for an interview.
He invited us in and introduced us to his wife.
First we opened up a laptop and showed Lloyd multiple pictures from 9/11 and had him identify which piece of the pole went through his windshield.
Time after time he pointed to the large piece that all of us knew was impossible.
Russell even drew a diagram of the cab and had Lloyd illustrate the pole.
He specifically drew the base of the long piece of the pole sticking out of the windshield into mid-air.
Lloyd claims that after the pole hit his car that was going about 40 mph he locked his brakes (but there are no visible skid marks) and that a stranger in a van that "didn't say a word" helped him lift the pole up out of his car but that he fell to the ground when doing so because he didn't know the top end of the pole that was in his car was bent. So all of this supposedly happened without even scratching the hood...."
There are a few things just downright wierd about this whole account...
1) The person that helped pull the pole from his car had time to stop his car, rush to Lloyds car, pull out the pole and then see the Pentagon hit? Right.. some slooooww flying plane then eh?
2) A plane, going 500 mph flies so low it hits a light post on a highway, yet his 2 ton car is unmoved in anyway. The vacuum from a plane going that fast that low should have rolled his car over. I have problems driving my car in a thunderstorm with strong winds, let alone a 500 mph gust.
3) Had a pole been struck by a plane going 500 mph it would have been disintegrated (along with whatever part of the plane that struck the pole), if it did manage to survive, it would not be intact like the pictures suggest. Also, had the pole been hit and shot towards his car, I think the pole would have shot right through his car, it would have severly injured him and would have taken more then a little hole out of his windshield.
4) Whether or not you listen to David Icke, which I do not believe a word he says, it is rather ironic that he was reading that book when the planes hit on 9/11. I think that to be more coincidence, an amusing one at that. His account for the day I think is far to shady to be usefull, I mean imagine you were right there when the Pentagon got hit, you would account for every second, this guy seems to remember very little, doesn´t even know what hit his own car, and could not account for the plane debris.
Only a handful mention the poles at all and I have yet to find one that claims they actually witnessed them being hit. Most simply saw the cab and the downed poles and simply deduced they were hit.
Contrary to popular belief there are almost no eyewitnesses that claim to have actually SEEN the poles get knocked down.
Same with the actual plane impact.
Yes a lot of people saw a plane....but very few claim they saw it impact, apart from some planted witnesses.
Naturally if the poles and other mechanical damage was staged a couple of planted witnesses would be used as well.
Lloyd told us he is a member of the "blue knights" which is a motorcycle fraternity for law enforcement.
His wife told us she is a retired clerk for the FBI.
I believe Lloyd is either a patsy or an agent of some sort.
Lloyd själv säger att det var själva stolpen som flög in i bilen:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread225322/pg1
"...so after inspecting the poles at the VDOT Lloyd agreed to have us over to his house for an interview.
He invited us in and introduced us to his wife.
First we opened up a laptop and showed Lloyd multiple pictures from 9/11 and had him identify which piece of the pole went through his windshield.
Time after time he pointed to the large piece that all of us knew was impossible.
Russell even drew a diagram of the cab and had Lloyd illustrate the pole.
He specifically drew the base of the long piece of the pole sticking out of the windshield into mid-air.
Lloyd claims that after the pole hit his car that was going about 40 mph he locked his brakes (but there are no visible skid marks) and that a stranger in a van that "didn't say a word" helped him lift the pole up out of his car but that he fell to the ground when doing so because he didn't know the top end of the pole that was in his car was bent. So all of this supposedly happened without even scratching the hood...."
There are a few things just downright wierd about this whole account...
1) The person that helped pull the pole from his car had time to stop his car, rush to Lloyds car, pull out the pole and then see the Pentagon hit? Right.. some slooooww flying plane then eh?
2) A plane, going 500 mph flies so low it hits a light post on a highway, yet his 2 ton car is unmoved in anyway. The vacuum from a plane going that fast that low should have rolled his car over. I have problems driving my car in a thunderstorm with strong winds, let alone a 500 mph gust.
3) Had a pole been struck by a plane going 500 mph it would have been disintegrated (along with whatever part of the plane that struck the pole), if it did manage to survive, it would not be intact like the pictures suggest. Also, had the pole been hit and shot towards his car, I think the pole would have shot right through his car, it would have severly injured him and would have taken more then a little hole out of his windshield.
4) Whether or not you listen to David Icke, which I do not believe a word he says, it is rather ironic that he was reading that book when the planes hit on 9/11. I think that to be more coincidence, an amusing one at that. His account for the day I think is far to shady to be usefull, I mean imagine you were right there when the Pentagon got hit, you would account for every second, this guy seems to remember very little, doesn´t even know what hit his own car, and could not account for the plane debris.
Only a handful mention the poles at all and I have yet to find one that claims they actually witnessed them being hit. Most simply saw the cab and the downed poles and simply deduced they were hit.
Contrary to popular belief there are almost no eyewitnesses that claim to have actually SEEN the poles get knocked down.
Same with the actual plane impact.
Yes a lot of people saw a plane....but very few claim they saw it impact, apart from some planted witnesses.
Naturally if the poles and other mechanical damage was staged a couple of planted witnesses would be used as well.
Lloyd told us he is a member of the "blue knights" which is a motorcycle fraternity for law enforcement.
His wife told us she is a retired clerk for the FBI.
I believe Lloyd is either a patsy or an agent of some sort.
Det här är ett tydligt bevis på hur ni konspirationsidkare fungerar. Ni tar det som passar, resten avfärdar ni.
Det passar tydligen att han VET att det var lyktstolpen som träffade, det tror ni. Men INTE på att han såg ett stort flygplan, det avfärdar ni.
2006-10-03, 11:45
#8283
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Ursprungligen postat av Mankan
April Gallop, Pentagon-anställd, redogör för hennes minnen från Pentagon-attacken 9/11:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/strange-case-of-april-gallop.html
"I was on the inside of a building with my newbord, whom I didn't know was going to survive!! Can you relate to all the emotions I was feeling at one time?? I thought that was one of the most secure building in all of the United States. I wasn't on the outside when the building was hit. From the inside it sounded like a bomb. When we worked to escape and helps others as well...
I don't recall any debris from a plane. That is what most reporters want to know from those on the inside... Did I see any plane debris?? NO I didn't. I was triaged.And by the time I made it to the hospital...with my child, yes I was very afraid beyond your understanding. In spite of my faith in GOD. I didn't know what happened.
Representatives from each military service came to the local hospitals to find those in the military for accountability. I was informed by the representative from the Army (whose name i will leave out) that it was a plane that hit the building. When that seed was planted, that it was a plane that actually hit the buidling at a time I am in a hospital bed, it added to my fears, anxieties etc.. So yes, I became fearful of riding planes, jumpy when hearing them ....Jim Mars distorted that comment for his gain.
What you should examine, is how one of the most secure buildings get attacked and no security mechanisms work on that particular day. Not one alarm went off prior to the hit. Why don't you examine that instead of attacking people that you don't personally interview?? Writers, reports distort comments for various reasons. Some change their writings because their space was decreased in a newspaper or their Editor didn't like their write up...so many reasons. But it doesn't make it right.
Your blog space have alterior motives to discredit. Because you take articles that would appear to be direct quotes without doing actual interviews for your own motives. Again, instead of going after people go after real issues.
As I stated the Pentagon deemed to be one of the most secure buildings was attacked and we saw on national TV recently how not one security mechanism worked. And I can verify, not one alarm went off. How is it on one particular day no mechanism worked??? Spend time analyzing real issues."
Nå, alla ni troende här, hur tänker ni bemöta April Gallops reflektioner kring Pentagon-attacken...?
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/strange-case-of-april-gallop.html
"I was on the inside of a building with my newbord, whom I didn't know was going to survive!! Can you relate to all the emotions I was feeling at one time?? I thought that was one of the most secure building in all of the United States. I wasn't on the outside when the building was hit. From the inside it sounded like a bomb. When we worked to escape and helps others as well...
I don't recall any debris from a plane. That is what most reporters want to know from those on the inside... Did I see any plane debris?? NO I didn't. I was triaged.And by the time I made it to the hospital...with my child, yes I was very afraid beyond your understanding. In spite of my faith in GOD. I didn't know what happened.
Representatives from each military service came to the local hospitals to find those in the military for accountability. I was informed by the representative from the Army (whose name i will leave out) that it was a plane that hit the building. When that seed was planted, that it was a plane that actually hit the buidling at a time I am in a hospital bed, it added to my fears, anxieties etc.. So yes, I became fearful of riding planes, jumpy when hearing them ....Jim Mars distorted that comment for his gain.
What you should examine, is how one of the most secure buildings get attacked and no security mechanisms work on that particular day. Not one alarm went off prior to the hit. Why don't you examine that instead of attacking people that you don't personally interview?? Writers, reports distort comments for various reasons. Some change their writings because their space was decreased in a newspaper or their Editor didn't like their write up...so many reasons. But it doesn't make it right.
Your blog space have alterior motives to discredit. Because you take articles that would appear to be direct quotes without doing actual interviews for your own motives. Again, instead of going after people go after real issues.
As I stated the Pentagon deemed to be one of the most secure buildings was attacked and we saw on national TV recently how not one security mechanism worked. And I can verify, not one alarm went off. How is it on one particular day no mechanism worked??? Spend time analyzing real issues."
Nå, alla ni troende här, hur tänker ni bemöta April Gallops reflektioner kring Pentagon-attacken...?
Att hon inte har sett flygplansdelar är väl inte så otroligt. Hade din första reaktion om huset du jobbar i blivit träffad av ett jumbojet, varit just att det -"måste ha varit ett plan"? Knappast. Hon hade säkert viktigare saker i tankarna. Det skulle vara intressant att veta vart hon krälade ut? Finns det bild på det?
Vidare är det väl vettigt att hon ifrågasätter vissa säkerthetsrutiner kring händelsen, men man kan knappast se hennes reflektioner som bevis mot att det INTE skulle vara flight 77.
2006-10-03, 12:17
#8285
2006-10-03, 12:49
#8286
2006-10-03, 13:02
#8288
2006-10-03, 13:03
#8289
2006-10-03, 13:07
#8290
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Det håller liksom inte. Om en byggnad brinner och är relativt skadad. Vi säger att du är brandman, och jag säger till dej att det smartaste är att "Pull it".. menar jag då att du inte ska gå in i byggnaden?
Ursprungligen postat av Pad
Fast på brandmannaslang så betyder inte "pull it" enbart att plocka ut eventuella mannar från huset, utan att överge hela operationen, dvs. att inga nya mannar kliver in heller och att man inte försöker rädda huset.
Ni har heller inte gett något som helst svar på varför en brandman skulle snacka demoleringsslang när han inte ens snackar med demoleringsfolk.
Så det där håller väl knappast som motargument. Bättre än så får du nog prestera om du tänker hindra ännu en bit från att hamna i den vederlagda tråden.
Ni har heller inte gett något som helst svar på varför en brandman skulle snacka demoleringsslang när han inte ens snackar med demoleringsfolk.
Så det där håller väl knappast som motargument. Bättre än så får du nog prestera om du tänker hindra ännu en bit från att hamna i den vederlagda tråden.
inser du hur dumt det låter..Han sa väll detta i en intervju? Han kanske rentav försa sej i intervjun. Jag tror knappast att han sa de exakta orden live som i intervjun. Ja, du förstår min poäng..Edit: Evakuera, skulle jag kunna gå med på. Men sen är problemet att det fanns inga brandmän inne i WTC7 vid den tidpunkten
2006-10-03, 13:13
#8291
2006-10-03, 13:16
#8292
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