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Du menar alltså att Nuland som bland annat bestämde den nya regeringens sammansättning och dessutom bistått med 5 miljarder inte skulle bestämt om det skulle blivit en kupp eller inte? Kuppmakarna har högst sannolikt fått besked om ett GO från västmakterna innan den slutliga kuppen kunde genomföras.
Summan fem miljarder dollar har alltså investerats i diverse "demokratiprojekt" under ett par decennier i Ukraina. En kritisk genomgång av den hanteringen vore önskvärd, men det är alltså inte så att Nuland kom med fem miljarder och beställde en statskupp.
Och vad är det för "statskupp" Kreml och du talar om egentligen? Att Janukovitj och hans bödlar flydde av rädsla för ett ultimatum av en ung Högra Sektor-aktivist som grep mikrofonen när Klitsjko stolt tillkännagivit en "överenskommelse" med Janukovitj. Det finns inget som tyder på att ZOG/Nuland/NWO/Illuminati/CIA kontrollerade demonstranterna i det läget. Men du kanske menar att ZOG/Nuland/Bildt/IMF/Mossad kontrollerade Janukovitj ock Berkut, och fick dem att fly för livet fast inget våld i det läget riktades mot förbrytarregimen? "Statskuppen" visar sig alltså bestå i att Janukovitj och alla hans underhuggare gav sig av. Självklart var demonstranterna ute efter deras liv, eller åtminstone deras kapitulation och underkastelse, i och med att demonstranterna var mycket medvetna om att de inte själva skulle visas någon nåd om de gick förlorande ur kampen. Men någon väpnad statskupp ägde inte rum - regimen flydde.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_revolution
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In response to the deal, Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh rejected the agreement, stating "We have to state the obvious fact that the criminal regime had not yet realised either the gravity of its evil doing," and said the agreement failed to address the arrest of Interior Minister Vitaliy Zakharchenko, Berkut commanders alleged to have been involved in the murder of civilians, removal of General Prosecutor and Defense Ministers, ban on the Party of Regions and Communist Party, and guarantees of safety for those involved in the opposition. He called for the 'people's revolution' to continue until there is a full removal of power from authorities.---
Vitali Klitschko apologised to the crowd on Maidan if he offended anyone by shaking hands with Yanukovych.[201] Activists on Maidan responded to the deal by booing opposition leaders. Activist Volodymyr Parasiuk warned from the stage that if Yanukovych does not resign by 10:00 the next day, an armed coup would be staged.[202] From the stage of Maidan Oleh Lyashko expressed his support to the demand that Yanukovych resign by 10:00, "Either he resigns, or we take him away." Lyashko told Maidan.---
By late afternoon, hundreds of riot police officers guarding the presidential compound and nearby government buildings had vanished. Polish foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski described the withdrawal of forces as "astonishing," noting it was not part of the agreement.[204] The withdrawal itself was a reaction to calls in many regions of the country for police to be recalled to their home cities during the nationwide occupation of government buildings. Thereafter, Andriy Parubiy reported Euromaidan self-defence had peacefully gained control over Kiev and its Government buildings,[205] and that the military was standing with the opposition.
Vitali Klitschko apologised to the crowd on Maidan if he offended anyone by shaking hands with Yanukovych.[201] Activists on Maidan responded to the deal by booing opposition leaders. Activist Volodymyr Parasiuk warned from the stage that if Yanukovych does not resign by 10:00 the next day, an armed coup would be staged.[202] From the stage of Maidan Oleh Lyashko expressed his support to the demand that Yanukovych resign by 10:00, "Either he resigns, or we take him away." Lyashko told Maidan.---
By late afternoon, hundreds of riot police officers guarding the presidential compound and nearby government buildings had vanished. Polish foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski described the withdrawal of forces as "astonishing," noting it was not part of the agreement.[204] The withdrawal itself was a reaction to calls in many regions of the country for police to be recalled to their home cities during the nationwide occupation of government buildings. Thereafter, Andriy Parubiy reported Euromaidan self-defence had peacefully gained control over Kiev and its Government buildings,[205] and that the military was standing with the opposition.
Den ryska inblandningen i händelseförloppet bör också granskas:
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Colonel of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Russia (GRU) Aleksandr Musienko stated that the conflict could only be solved by means of force, and that Ukraine had proven it could not exist as an independent sovereign state.[58][59]
According to classified documents released by former deputy interior minister Hennadiy Moskal, Russian officials served as advisers in how to carry out the operations against protesters. Codenamed "Wave" and "Boomerang," the operations aimed to disperse crowds with the use of snipers and capture the protesters' headquarters in the House of Trade Unions; prior to police defections, the plans included the deployment of 22,000 combined security troops in the city.[60] According to the documents, the former first deputy of the Russian GRU stayed at the Kyiv Hotel and played a major role in the preparations, and was paid by the Security Services of Ukraine.[61] Interior Minister Arseniy Avakov has stated that the conflict was provoked by a 'non-Ukrainian' third party, and that an investigation was ongoing.[62]
Following concessions on 21 February after a failed crackdown which left up to 100 killed, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev suggested Mr. Yanukovych needed to stop behaving like a "doormat," and that further loan tranches would be withheld. Russian political advisor Sergey Markov then ensured "Russia will do everything allowable by law to stop [the opposition] from coming to power."[63] On 24 February, following the events of the revolution, Russia's Foreign Ministry issued a statement urging Ukrainians to "crack down on the extremists who are trying to get established in power,"[64] and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev refused to recognise the provisional government as legitimate.
According to classified documents released by former deputy interior minister Hennadiy Moskal, Russian officials served as advisers in how to carry out the operations against protesters. Codenamed "Wave" and "Boomerang," the operations aimed to disperse crowds with the use of snipers and capture the protesters' headquarters in the House of Trade Unions; prior to police defections, the plans included the deployment of 22,000 combined security troops in the city.[60] According to the documents, the former first deputy of the Russian GRU stayed at the Kyiv Hotel and played a major role in the preparations, and was paid by the Security Services of Ukraine.[61] Interior Minister Arseniy Avakov has stated that the conflict was provoked by a 'non-Ukrainian' third party, and that an investigation was ongoing.[62]
Following concessions on 21 February after a failed crackdown which left up to 100 killed, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev suggested Mr. Yanukovych needed to stop behaving like a "doormat," and that further loan tranches would be withheld. Russian political advisor Sergey Markov then ensured "Russia will do everything allowable by law to stop [the opposition] from coming to power."[63] On 24 February, following the events of the revolution, Russia's Foreign Ministry issued a statement urging Ukrainians to "crack down on the extremists who are trying to get established in power,"[64] and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev refused to recognise the provisional government as legitimate.
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Ursprungligen postat av Nibiru2011
Kontrollerade inte oppositionen och västmakterna demonstranterna?
Nej, inget tyder på att den parlamentariska oppositionen och "västmakterna" kontrollerade
demonstranterna den 21:a februari. Demonstranterna avvisade den
"överenskommelse" med Janukovitj som den parlamentariska oppositionen förhandlat fram, och som undertecknats av den polske, tyske och franske utrikesministern.
Ordalydelsen från det ryska utrikesministeriet, som under de senaste veckorna regredierat till den primitivaste och minst övertygande formen av sovjetpropaganda, tycks nu vara att man anklagar
Förenta Staterna och Storbritannien för att ha "uppmuntrat statskuppen" i Ukraina. Att de skriver EU kanske bara är ett utslag av idioti - EU har inte undertecknat Budapestöverenskommelsen:
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russian-foreign-ministry-west-actively-encouraged-ukrainian-coup-acted-in-breach-of-budapest-memoran dum-339989.html
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"The U.S. and EU actively encouraged the coup d'etat in Kyiv, acting against the political independence and sovereignty of Ukraine in breach of their obligations under the Budapest Memorandum," the ministry said in a commentary posted on its website on March 19.
Rysslands chauvinistiska imperialister har för övrigt en väldigt tung historisk skuld för den oerhörda, civilisationsödeläggande tragedi som kallas första världskriget. Sean McMeekins studie om ämnet kan varmt rekommenderas. Tsarväldet var ett helvete, sovjetväldet blev ett ännu värre inferno. Om bara ryssarna höll sig inom sina gränser finns det ingen anledning att bry sig om vilken form av terrorsamhälle de väljer att skapa - men det verkar svårt för dem att nöja sig med att pina ihjäl varandra:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Russian-Origins-First-World/dp/0674062108
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It was Russian statesmen who unleashed the war through conscious policy decisions based on imperial ambitions in the Near East. Unlike their civilian counterparts in Berlin, who would have preferred to localize the Austro-Serbian conflict, Russian leaders desired a more general war so long as British participation was assured. The war of 1914 was launched at a propitious moment for harnessing the might of Britain and France to neutralize the German threat to Russia's goal: partitioning the Ottoman Empire to ensure control of the Straits between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean.
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