En liten logikövning:
Dissekera och hitta felen i nedanstående "bevis" på att Gud inte finns som jag fick på annat forum.
Dissekera och hitta felen i nedanstående "bevis" på att Gud inte finns som jag fick på annat forum.
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Då kan du få matematiskt bevis på att Gud inte finns då.
På engelska. Men det tror jag du inte har några problem med.
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W (x, y) = y is willing to prevent x
A (x, y) = y is able to prevent x
E (x) = x is evil, T(x) = x exists
M (x) = x is malevolent
I (x) = x is impotent
A: If god is not able to prevent evil, then god is impotent.
¬ A (god,evil) -> I (god)
B: If god is unwilling to prevent evil, then god is malevolent.
¬ W (god,evil) -> M (god)
C: If evil exists, god is unwilling to prevent evil or god is unable to prevent evil.
T (evil) -> (¬ A (god,evil) v ¬ W (god,evil))
D: If god exists, he is not malevolent and he is not impotent
T (god) -> (¬ M(god) & ¬ I (god))
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1. God exists: T (god)
2. Evil exists: T (evil)
3. By 1 and D, god is not malevolent and he is not impotent:
¬ M (god) & ¬ I (god)
4. By 2 and C, god is unwilling to prevent evil or god is unable to prevent evil:
¬ A (god,evil) v ¬W(god,evil)
5. By 4 and A and B, god is malevolent or god is impotent:
I (god) v M (god)
6. 3 and 5 are a contradiction.
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By 6, either 3 is false or 5 is false.
If 3 is false, then 1 is false, then god does not exist:
¬ 3 -> ¬ 1 -> ¬ T (god)
If 5 is false, then 4 is false:
¬ 5 -> ¬ 4
If 4 is false, then 2 is false, then evil does not exist:
¬ 4 -> ¬ 2 -> ¬ T (evil)
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Therefore, either evil does not exist or god does not exist.
We cannot conclude that god does not exist unless we presume that if god exists, evil exists:
T (god) -> T (evil)
The contrapositive would then be:
¬ T (evil) -> ¬ T (god) - and thus god would not exist.
På engelska. Men det tror jag du inte har några problem med.
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W (x, y) = y is willing to prevent x
A (x, y) = y is able to prevent x
E (x) = x is evil, T(x) = x exists
M (x) = x is malevolent
I (x) = x is impotent
A: If god is not able to prevent evil, then god is impotent.
¬ A (god,evil) -> I (god)
B: If god is unwilling to prevent evil, then god is malevolent.
¬ W (god,evil) -> M (god)
C: If evil exists, god is unwilling to prevent evil or god is unable to prevent evil.
T (evil) -> (¬ A (god,evil) v ¬ W (god,evil))
D: If god exists, he is not malevolent and he is not impotent
T (god) -> (¬ M(god) & ¬ I (god))
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1. God exists: T (god)
2. Evil exists: T (evil)
3. By 1 and D, god is not malevolent and he is not impotent:
¬ M (god) & ¬ I (god)
4. By 2 and C, god is unwilling to prevent evil or god is unable to prevent evil:
¬ A (god,evil) v ¬W(god,evil)
5. By 4 and A and B, god is malevolent or god is impotent:
I (god) v M (god)
6. 3 and 5 are a contradiction.
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By 6, either 3 is false or 5 is false.
If 3 is false, then 1 is false, then god does not exist:
¬ 3 -> ¬ 1 -> ¬ T (god)
If 5 is false, then 4 is false:
¬ 5 -> ¬ 4
If 4 is false, then 2 is false, then evil does not exist:
¬ 4 -> ¬ 2 -> ¬ T (evil)
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Therefore, either evil does not exist or god does not exist.
We cannot conclude that god does not exist unless we presume that if god exists, evil exists:
T (god) -> T (evil)
The contrapositive would then be:
¬ T (evil) -> ¬ T (god) - and thus god would not exist.